Talk:Fecal incontinence

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First person speech

This article contains a lot of speech in the first person (you, yourself, etc). I have fixed some of those parts, but there is still some work missing. Rbarreira 20:00, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I did not notice any remaining first person speech, so I removed the notice. --Driscoll 20:20, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jokes

redirect from poopy pants?

XD

No, seriously...

XD

I loled

i laughed really hard -- 75.161.252.221 (talk) 18:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dietary

The following text is deleted from the article because of tone of the refnotes and because if those belong on wikipedia at all then they belong on pages more specific to the products in question. --Una Smith (talk) 15:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fecal incontinence is also a potential side-effect of medicines that prevent the absorption of dietary fats such as Orlistat and can also be caused by eating non-digestible oils or fats such as Olestra. ^[1] ^[2] ^[3] ^[4]

Alcoholism (severe cases)

This may also lead to F. I. (well, it's an open secret). Only thing I do not get is why this article doesn't mention alcohol in any way; of course, you can read "drugs" but most people would not call alcohol a "drug." I agree that it may be included into the "drugs" group; yet for the sake of clarity and readability, alcohol ought to be mentioned separately IMHO. -andy 77.190.52.185 (talk) 00:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

evidence source? tepi (talk) 03:09, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Definition in need of reworking?

This article's definition could be interpreted as vague and imprecise. E.g. what does regular control of the bowels mean? A patient could have irregular bowels without being incontinent. Whether there is a voluntary control or not is the key factor, and we should make this clear. Rather than involuntary excretion or leaking (whats the difference?) being common features, they are the defining features imo. Some other definitions I have read of FI I feel are better:

"the inability to control feces and to expel it at a proper place and at a proper time" "the inability to prevent involuntary loss of bowel content" "recurrent uncontrolled passage of fecal material in an individual with a developmental age of at least 4 years" tepi (talk) 19:19, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Innapropriate/misleading language regarding risk of FI with anoreceptive intercourse?

Currently the article reads: "Another study among forty anoreceptive homosexual men and ten non-anoreceptive heterosexual men found a very significant increase in fecal incontinence (fourteen, or 35% amongst the anoreceptive men, and one, or 10% in the non-anoreceptive sample) amongst the anoreceptive sample.[12]"

Upon reading the study, "This study has revealed an excess of minor anal incontinence amongst anoreceptive homosexual men. Over a third of AR subjects reported some degree of anal incontinence or urgency of defaecation."

I feel the wording "very significant" is misleading. Either something is statistically significant or it is not. Furthermore, this is a very small cohort study and therefore its findings need considered with that in mind. tepi (talk) 19:51, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

These 2 studies are in the false order. First is 1993. There is lower maximal pressure within AR and for all with incontinence. 1997 shows only lower standard pressure with AR, the maximum pressure is not lower. Also he looked with ultrasonic and find no demage. So he write the lower pressure is from acclimatization. (sorry for my bad englisch) --Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 02:29, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from changing the order in which the studies are mentioned, how else to improve the wording in the article? The acclimatization refers to physiological muscular acclimatisation to anorectal manipulation or a psychological difference in the way the groups reacted to manometry? tepi (talk) 03:09, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Existing issues...

surgical options need to be covered in full
puborectalis sling diagram is poor, inaccurate as puborectalis is in continuity with the EAS in reality...anal canal shape is also weird...sphincters do not extend full length and not a uniform width tube.
the subtypes of FI termed anal incontinence and fecal leakage were originally intended to be articles intheir own right, however I felt it was best to integrate them here in the end. This has lead to some repatition in etiology and treatment...maybe needs some work?
is this page now too long?

p = 0.05 (talk) 00:03, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Weighing a Pill For Weight Loss". Washington Post. Retrieved 2007-07-06. While the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) still must approve the switch, the agency often follows the advice of its experts. If it does, Orlistat (xenical) -- currently sold only by prescription -- could be available over-the-counter (OTC) later this year. But it's important to know that the weight loss that's typical for users of the drug -- 5 to 10 percent of total weight -- will be less than many dieters expect. And many consumers may be put off by the drug's significant gastrointestinal side effects, including flatulence, diarrhea and anal leakage. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
^ "Frito-Lay Study: Olestra Causes "Anal Oil Leakage"". Center for Science in the Public Interest. Thursday, February 13, 1997. Retrieved 2007-07-07. The Frito-Lay report states: "The anal oil leakage symptoms were observed in this study (3 to 9% incidence range above background), as well as other changes in elimination. ... Underwear spotting was statistically significant in one of two low level consumer groups at a 5% incidence above background." Despite those problems, the authors of the report concluded that olestra-containing snacks "should have a high potential for acceptance in the marketplace." {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
^ "The Word Is 'Leakage'. Accidents may happen with a new OTC diet drug". Newsweek. June 25, 2007. Retrieved 2007-06-21. GlaxoSmithKline has a tip for people who decide to try Alli, the over-the-counter weight-loss drug it is launching with a multimillion-dollar advertising blitz—keep an extra pair of pants handy. That's because Alli, a lower-dose version of the prescription drug Xenical, could (cue the late-night talk-show hosts) make you soil your pants. But while Alli's most troublesome side effect, anal leakage, is sure to be good for a few laughs, millions of people who are desperate to take off weight may still decide the threat of an accident is worth it. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
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[WP-1] "Weighing a Pill For Weight Loss". Washington Post. Retrieved 2007-07-06. While the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) still must approve the switch, the agency often follows the advice of its experts. If it does, Orlistat (xenical) -- currently sold only by prescription -- could be available over-the-counter (OTC) later this year. But it's important to know that the weight loss that's typical for users of the drug -- 5 to 10 percent of total weight -- will be less than many dieters expect. And many consumers may be put off by the drug's significant gastrointestinal side effects, including flatulence, diarrhea and anal leakage. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

[CSPI-2] "Frito-Lay Study: Olestra Causes "Anal Oil Leakage"". Center for Science in the Public Interest. Thursday, February 13, 1997. Retrieved 2007-07-07. The Frito-Lay report states: "The anal oil leakage symptoms were observed in this study (3 to 9% incidence range above background), as well as other changes in elimination. ... Underwear spotting was statistically significant in one of two low level consumer groups at a 5% incidence above background." Despite those problems, the authors of the report concluded that olestra-containing snacks "should have a high potential for acceptance in the marketplace." {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

[NW-3] "The Word Is 'Leakage'. Accidents may happen with a new OTC diet drug". Newsweek. June 25, 2007. Retrieved 2007-06-21. GlaxoSmithKline has a tip for people who decide to try Alli, the over-the-counter weight-loss drug it is launching with a multimillion-dollar advertising blitz—keep an extra pair of pants handy. That's because Alli, a lower-dose version of the prescription drug Xenical, could (cue the late-night talk-show hosts) make you soil your pants. But while Alli's most troublesome side effect, anal leakage, is sure to be good for a few laughs, millions of people who are desperate to take off weight may still decide the threat of an accident is worth it. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

[CSPI2-4] Cite error: The named reference CSPI2 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

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