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    Definition of edit warring
    Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
    Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR)
    An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.

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    User:Double sharp and User:Eka-bismuth reported by User:I Jethrobot (Result: Double sharp and Eka-bismuth warned)

    Page: Ununpentium (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    Users being reported: Double sharp (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and Eka-bismuth (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: [1]

    Double sharp (talk · contribs):

    • 1st revert: [2]
    • 2nd revert: [3]
    • 3rd revert: [4]
    • 4th revert: [5]
    • 5th revert: [6]

    Eka-bismuth (talk · contribs):


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [11], [12]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    • [13]
    • [14] - No discussion on article talk page, but editors are attempting to resolve issue on the WikiProject Elements talk page as the issue would be relevant to all articles on elements on the periodic table.

    Comments:

    • Editors were engaged in a content dispute over the addition of cultural information about Ununpentium. Eka-bismuth has repeatedly attempted to add this information, and Double sharp has repeatedly removed it. The current state of the article retains some of the original additions from Eka-bismuth from Double sharp's recent edit summary on the article: keep one paragraph, move rest to. This discussion seems to be constructive, and edit warring has since appeared to end, but 3RR was nonetheless violated. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 23:31, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Eka-bismuth has not continued to revert since I left a more detailed note on his talk page. The AfD which is now in progress may help to settle the matter. It is easy to see that serious-minded chemists might take umbrage at a large fraction of a technical article being taken over by popular culture. EdJohnston (talk) 16:53, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Faulknerck2‎ reported by User:Zad68 (Result: Semi-protection and advisement)

    Pages:

    User being reported: Faulknerck2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Note: This is an attempt by Faulknerck2 to edit-war in unsourced/poorly sourced material or duplicate material across three articles. His edits were reverted by myself, Jayjg, RHaworth and 71.61.95.21 (a long-time productive IP editor) with numerous invitations to discuss.

    Previous version reverted to: 03:59, 31 October 2012 (edit summary: "/* Male circumcision */")

    1. 03:58, 31 October 2012 -- Added [[Genital_modification_and_mutilation|Male Genital Mutilation]] to Template:Violence against men
    2. 20:23, 31 October 2012 (edit summary: "why not? MGM is a brutal thing that can do to a man ,and it's same as FGM. http://www.mgmbill.org/")
    3. 06:21, 3 November 2012 (edit summary: "I made enough evidence why MGM should be in this list in the talk section so please refer them rather than removing this because you don't agree with me.")
    4. 08:53, 3 November 2012 (edit summary: "Undid revision 521176362 by 71.61.95.21 (talk)")
    5. 09:17, 4 November 2012 (edit summary: "it's not a domestic violence, Genital Mutilation is a different category. http://www.bestgore.com/tag/male-genital-mutilation/")
    6. At this point, Faulknerck2 created a WP:POVFORK of Genital modification and mutilation named Male Genital Mutilation (MGM) with basically the same content. I CSD'd it as an A10-dup of existing content. Faulknerck2 briefly edit-warred trying to delete the CSD tag, and then RHaworth speedy-deleted the page.
    7. 23:09, 4 November 2012 (edit summary: "obviously related to the topic. MGM is indeed a violence against men and boys - see the talk section")
    8. 00:55, 5 November 2012 (edit summary: "")
    9. 01:03, 5 November 2012 (edit summary: "Show me any duplication ? no place has mentioned about "other than circumcision make damage to the penis, scrotum, testes, glans are also considered as Male Genital Mutilation."")
    10. 01:08, 5 November 2012 (edit summary: "He/she vandalized my details.")
    11. 02:45, 5 November 2012 (edit summary: "I have a proper source for MGM now so don't remove this.")
    12. 04:06, 5 November 2012 (edit summary: "stop messing up with my edits. source is reliable you can check it out by yourself. and you broke the 3 Edit Rule in here.") -- Note: I did not break the 3RR there.
    13. 03:52, 6 November 2012 (edit summary: "source has been provided and they are also reliable so why remove them? so stop vandalizing articles.")

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: link

    Additional personal warnings I provided:

    • diff -- Warning and asked Faulknerck2 to work with fellow editors on talk to gain consensus
    • diff -- Another edit-warring warning with an explanation of the WP:BRD process and note that if Faulknerck2 continues, I will open edit-warring report
    • diff -- Still assuming good faith and giving Faulknerck2 one more try with an invite to join discussion section I opened at article Talk page

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: See:

    Responses from Faulknerck2, largely WP:IDHT and personal attacks. My only reponses to his edits have been that they are unsourced/poorly sourced, or duplicate existing content.

    His editing is quite disruptive. I do not think an editor who refers to policy pages as "gibberish" will be a productive editor for Wikipedia. In my opinion, we could be in WP:COMPETENCE territory here. Zad68 16:29, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Comments:

    Refer this page. this man has been stalking me, disturbing me ever since I added about MGM into the Wikipedia Faulk (talk) 05:07, 5 November 2012 (UTC) he started the edit war because what I have edited didn't fit into his ideology. he believes there is NO such term called MGM and it's solely a made up story by even though I made a lot of proofs about that. MGM is a threat and it's a brutal crime and if you don't know . babies have died because of MGM.and circumcision is one of things belong to MGM and there could be a lot of types (I made them in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genital_modification_and_mutilation in here but WIKIPEDIA DOESN"T SAY ANYTHING about that. seriously HOW COME PEOPLE IN THIS SITE FORGET ABOUT MGM?? ban me if you want but don't forget people suffer in this world because of MGM. I have seen them and I have heard that a lot) https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/548698_278766902205608_576479498_n.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faulknerck2 (talkcontribs) 05:10, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    • Note. User:EdJohnston left a note on Faulknerck2's talk page at 17:14, November 6, asking the editor to agree to refrain from editing MGM articles and templates for one week. Faulknerck2 has not edited anything since 5:17, November 5. Although Ed left open the possibility of a block despite his advisement, I would prefer to wait to see if the editor will agree to the condition. A third admin may take a different view.
    Added. In the Genital modification and mutilation article history, I discovered that an IP reverted along similar lines to Faulknerck2 after Faulknerck2 stopped editing. This was still before Ed's advisement, but I find it disturbing. I have put the template and the article on my watchlist. I have also reverted the last change by Faulknerck2 to the template.
    Added. There was another reversion by an IP from the same location (Sri Lanka). I've reverted it and semi-protected the page. My suspicion is the IP is Faulknerck2, but although I see some contributions to articles that are related or possibly related to Sri Lanka by Faulknerck2 (e.g., Islam in Sri Lanka and Prophets in Islam), I'm hesitant to conclude the IPs are Faulknerck2. If another admin feels there is sufficient evidence of sock puppetry, then on that point alone Faulknerck2 should be blocked. I've semi-protected the article to guard against further disruption.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Semiprotection looks like a reasonable step. EdJohnston (talk) 02:22, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note. Since my last update, I've also semi-protected the template (the same individual, different IP address, reverted the template). Unless another admin wishes to take action against Faulknerck2 based on possible sock puppetry (I'm not), I'm closing this report based on the remedial actions already taken.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:70.253.75.84 reported by User:Jenova20 (Result: 1 week)

    This editor appears to be waging a personal edit war against me across two articles just to revert war. I've started discussions with him but he's done it again since then and to another article aswell (just to get at me i suspect) and is at 2 or 3 reverts on the one article. It's not majorly important stuff but it's incredibly annoying and he's already been warned by me and someone else on his talk page and he's still doing it. Articles in question are Template:LGBT rights table Africa and LGBT rights in Texas. I've since noticed also that he/she's currently engaged in 10+ edit wars across difference articles with other editors...I also realize i've used rollback on the user on one of my examples when i should have restored the previous version, apologies, i will correct that now. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 11:16, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see User talk:Largoplazo#LGBT rights in Africa and User:Largoplazo/Note on LGBT rights in African countries for further context. This IP-hopping editor has been active for several months on various LGBT rights in various "LGBT rights in X" articles, where X is usually an African country. The editor adds a lot of well-sourced information, much of which nonetheless constitutes synthesis of legal arguments and interpretations strongly favouring a pro-LGBT POV (e.g., "Country A's constitution says X, Y, and Z; taken together one must therefore infer that homosexuality enjoys constitutional protection."), and undue weight to same. For the last week User:Largoplazo and I have been attempting to engage this user without success. —Psychonaut (talk) 12:01, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I see. Is he under any obligation to respond to requests to explain his actions so we can avoid arguments and edit wars? Thanks for the reply Jenova20 (email) 12:13, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Here is a (possibly incomplete) list of IP addresses the user has used:

    Psychonaut (talk) 12:26, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know that he/she can be said to be under any obligation to respond, but I think there will be a difference between the way to proceed with a person who willingly engages in discussion and a person who ignores all attempts to discuss. I'm the one who has twice deleted boilerplate text from 13 "LGBT rights in X" articles. The second time through, I left in the edit summaries a link to the explanatory article Psychonaut mentioned above, User:Largoplazo/Note on LGBT rights in African countries. Because this person refuses to engage—and assuming others agree with my rationale for the deletions—I wondered whether the next step is to go right to semi-protection, since being an IP user, who will never see "You have new messages", is helping him/her evade discussion. With semiprotection, he/she could choose either to discuss, or to register, in which case he/she would then have a talk page. —Largo Plazo (talk) 12:31, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    But, we can't just protect 10+ articles and in the process prevent others from editing because he won't discuss his WP:Synthesis? Any other solutions to this? Thanks Jenova20 (email) 12:50, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It's just semi-protection which is being proposed, which prevents editing only by those using anonymous IPs, or very new accounts (less than a few days old). Considering some of the alternative remedies which could be employed if he does not stop the disruption and start discussing (for example, a block of his entire IP range), I don't think short-term semiprotection is too great an imposition. (Also, it's not just his synthesis which needs to be discussed; it's also his POV-pushing, adding information of very general scope to very specific articles, and "ownership" of the articles. It's not just the three of us he's reverted; if you examine the page histories you'll find that many other editors have had their edits immediately undone by him.) —Psychonaut (talk) 12:58, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    But, he's editing a lot of articles...And LGBT rights in example country is a range of about 200 articles he could start warring on. I support your proposal for protection Psychonaut but there's no way we can prevent his POV-pushing this way as he'll move along to other LGBT rights in example country articles. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 13:19, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The above looks to be small enough of a range to allow for a technical range block: what does the rest of editing look like on that range? I'm not a real expert in giving range blocks, but one could work well here. --Jayron32 13:53, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm in. I'll agree to any proposal now. I've just been warned i'm edit warring by the same user on my talk page in retaliation - despite him making more reverts than me and me opening discussions with him over the warring.
    He's also still warring on other LGBT rights in example country articles. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 15:22, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Since the latest IP is edit warring as we speak, and collateral damage looks to be minimal, I've blocked 70.253.0.0/16 for a week. I'm hoping this person will create an account because there might be some usable content here, but the 12 article edit war with dynamic IPs has gotten a bit disruptive now. – Steel 15:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    He's continuing from 75.34.101.112 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) which is outside your range block. —Psychonaut (talk) 16:03, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The editor started posting to User:Largoplazo/Note on LGBT rights in African countries and User talk:Jenova20, though so far he doesn't seem willing to entertain the possibility that his edits may violate consensus and policy. Hopefully he will create an account and continue the discussion. —Psychonaut (talk) 16:22, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    There is much more activity on this one, but mostly minor edits and some vandalism, so I've blocked it (/16) too for the same length of time. If it turns out next week that a longer term solution is required for these pages then I'm happy to semi-protect the lot. – Steel 16:26, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    He doesn't accept that he's at fault and personally attacked me on my user page. He's quoting a policy to me while violating about 4 himself but doesn't accept the criticism. Thanks Jenova20 (email) 16:54, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    A new account, User:AfricaTanz, has been created, and has started editing LGBT rights in Kenya in a manner consistent with the IP user's edits. I have left a message on their talk page asking if they're the IP user and inviting them to discuss their contributions at User:Largoplazo/Note on LGBT rights in African countries. —Psychonaut (talk) 14:47, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:WikiCalambenyo reported by User:P199 (Result: )

    Page: Calamba, Laguna (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: WikiCalambenyo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    On August 2012 I made my 1st edit to Calamba, Laguna, as part of larger editing series to clean up and bring consistent formatting to Philippine municipality/city articles, including removal of duplication, redundancy, and non-encyclopedic business listings. Since then, 5 IP users (all from the same company in Makati (same as WikiCalambenyo? Please check.)) keep on reverting my edits in one shot without any explanation. Then User:WikiCalambenyo also reverted my edits without comment or reason, 4 times by now: [15], [16], [17], [18]. Note that intermediate edits make it more difficult to see and detect that WikiCalambenyo keeps on reverting my edits.

    I've tried to resolve this edit war on the article talk page and user talk page, and even on the IP user talk pages: User talk:112.207.3.238, User talk:112.207.16.116, and User talk:112.207.24.193. No replies. -- P 1 9 9   14:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    He did it again: [19]! Still no discussion, not even here. Notice that he makes each edit somewhat different than before, so it doesn't look like a revert, but all my changes are undone. -- P 1 9 9   18:36, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Rhode Island Red reported by User:Collect (Result: )

    Page: Frank L. VanderSloot (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Rhode Island Red (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: [20] prior to IP edit

    • 1st revert: [21] 21:26 5 Nov
    • 2nd revert: [22] 00:59 6 Nov
    • 3rd revert: [23] 03:55 6 Nov
    • 4th revert: [24] 15:22 6 Nov


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [25] with request ot self-revert

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [26] extended discussion in fact

    Comments:


    Editor has been repeatedly warned about edit war (including lengthy blocks and other warnings), and this is a clear 4RR absolute biright-line violation. Collect (talk) 19:03, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    RIR made four reverts, as listed above. The first of the four is this one, which is claimed to be removal of a copyright violation -- a Youtube video of a local TV news broadcast. EdJohnston (talk) 21:26, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't see a 4RR or even 3RR here. Two of those reverts in the list above are unrelated. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:36, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Doesn't have to be the same edit. Also, I don't believe copyright is given the same exemption that BLP is given regarding the 3rr. Arkon (talk) 21:41, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    "4RR" does not require all the reverts to be the same - the fact is that there are four clear reverts in 24 hoors, and this has been noted in the past for the same editor. I do not think the youtube video at hand representa the BLP exception. What I find most troubling is that the editor seems to do this on a regular basis on this article. And I think edit war where a single editor makes dozens of reverts on the same article each month is pretty evident. Cheers. Collect (talk) 21:46, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    George Louis and Collect are long-term colluders who are both involved with WP Project Conservatism and have been POV pushing for quite some time. They have a long history of obstructionism, whitewashing and harassment of editors on the Vandersloot page. This type of witch-hunt is getting to be an almost weekly occurrence with these guys. Who in their right mind would object to removal of a video that violates copyright? Epic dickery! Rhode Island Red (talk) 22:18, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Read WP:NPA please. Also note that I am not and have never been a member of that wikiproject, that I am not and have never "colluded" with any editor on VanderSloot, that your edit war is the issue here, and that your history of making such charges is indicative of a battleground attitude. And if you consider 4RR reports to be a "witch-hunt that is even more proof of your attitude. Cheers. Collect (talk) 04:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Read WP:DONTBEADICK please. Also, note that I said that you were “involved with” (not that you are "a member of") WP Project Conservatism, which is a fact; there’s no need for such an emphatic denial of something that wasn’t actually said. In fact, your POV pushing has been an ongoing concern there, as indicated by comments like: "I'd like to point out that Collect's behavior is why there's a problem. He's a conservative editor who viciously and falsely attacks anyone who criticizes WikiProject Conservatism."[27]. And yes, I do consider your trumped up 4RR accusation to be a witch-hunt, and a waste of everyone’s time, since it’s obvious that I didn’t violate 4RR. You and George together use these retributive accusations to obstruct work on the page and intimidate opposition. It's time to straighten up and fly right. Rhode Island Red (talk) 16:58, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    RIR is skating on the edge of respectability with his or her argument above, except for his or her inexcusable labeling of User:Collect as a "dick" (really fighting words where I come from, west of the Mississippi). It is true that Red's removal of the copyrighted video was probably justified, but I would like to point out that "Even without a 3RR violation, an administrator may still act if they believe a user's behavior constitutes edit warring, and any user may report edit-warring with or without 3RR being breached. The rule is not an entitlement to revert a page a specific number of times." If any interested Administrator would care to examine Mr. or Ms. Red's persistent and automatic reversions over the past few months, all of us attempting to improve the Frank L. VanderSloot article would certainly appreciate it. We are constantly being blocked from such improvement by Red's Reversion after Reversion after Reversion. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:47, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    That's preposterous George. I did not call Collect a dick. I did not violate 3RR. Your off-topic moaning and wailing is pointless. Back off with the harassment or I will file a long overdue user conduct dispute regarding both of you. Smarten up. Rhode Island Red (talk) 20:42, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    And while this has languished here, he's had 3 more reverts today. Well done. Arkon (talk) 21:29, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Patavium reported by User:Mai-Sachme (Result: Page protected)

    Page: Ladin language (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Patavium (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: [28]

    Everthing started with the actions of User:Felisopus, who started an edit war, trying to add completely unsourced information to an article: [29] and following edits. After being reverted, invited to the talk page and asked there for sources, he went to the Italian wikipedia and asked User:Theirrulez (here on en.wikipedia a subject to extended 1RR restriction on WP:ARBMAC-related topics) for help. And so he did. Now we come to User:Patavium, who slightely changed the unsourced claims and reinserted them, ignoring the discussion at the talk page:

    He was reverted and asked for sources. One hour later, after apparently reading two entire books (an impressive accomplishment), he reverted again, this time citing sources.

    Nevertheless, the added information was still partly unsourced, partly unrelated to the topic of the article and partly ignoring Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (Reliable sources may be published materials with a reliable publication process, authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject, or both. These qualifications should be demonstrable to other people.), for example citing a book about World War I for a proceses in the Holy Roman Empire...

    • 4th revert: [33] (The edit summary line is missleading: he didn't bring more sources, he just reverted.)


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [34]


    I repeatedly tried to convince him to discuss the topic at the talk page 'before editing again: Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [35], [36], [37]. Since he didn't change his attitude, I have to report him here. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 23:05, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Comments:

    • I added clear sources in the text. Unfortunately Mai-Sachme continued to revert ignoring the sources.
    • There were three users, Felisopus, Theirrules and me agreeing on the edits.
    • Discussion with Mai-Sachme is quite difficult:
      • Here he wants a source for "the development of an own Ladin consciousness in the 19th century".
      • Previosly he said: It's completely uncontested that Ladins have developed a national ethnic identity in the 19th century.
    • Book WWI: refers to Austrian Empire, not to HRR.--Patavium (talk) 23:19, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Patavium is edit warring on the page since October 9th [38] when he reverted a series of about 20 single corrections (most mine, all using the edit summary) putting a misleading claim in the edit summary, removing sources and giving undue weight to doubtful ladin communes.--Sajoch (talk) 23:31, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Well Patavium, if I were you, I wouldn't highlight that an edit warrior, who didn't have any kind of sources, and a user with an 1RR restriction on WP:ARBMAC-related topics were your forerunners. The main problem here is that both User:Sajoch and me asked you to discuss the edits before reverting. You didn't feel the need to do that.
    I don't know, what you are trying to prove with those diff-links. I asked you for a source that the development of a Ladin ethnic identity in the 19th century (which is completely undisputed) stopped the process of Germanization as you reverted (without giving any kind of source) repeatedly in the article.
    The book we are talking about is called Una trincea chiamata Dolomiti: 1915-1917. It could be a good source for Italian Campaign (World War I), you used it as a source for a process which you claim to have started several centuries ago. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 23:33, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    There are clear figures from the census. Manipulating them makes no sense.
    The books talks about major efforts of Germanization during the war. As the article says now In the vast Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation and then after 1804 the Austrian empire, the Ladins underwent a process of Germanization. Actually Austrian in not fully correct, as it became Austria-Hungary in 1867. But as a matter of fact, the Austrian authorities incremented their assimilation efforts during war. So a book about WWI is a very reliable source.
    My previous editor maybe did not post the sources, but he had a clear and correct idea - as most of his edits were common knowledge. I added some info, sources and changed the style.
    I therefore doubt that we need a previous discussion on common knowledge - at least in an Italian context, as the one which regards the Ladin area (or most of it). Unless the aim is preventive censorship, concealing Germanization and leaving only the message of Italianization. That would be quite a distorted view of Ladin history.
    On the contrary the system of total revert you use is not helpful, because vital information gets lost.
    Moreover, my view of events is slightly different. All reverts were performed by Mai-Sachme. I started with an edit, which was then reverted several times by Mai-Sachme, [39] even if I tried to integrate his objections. The rest of the sequence can be seen here [40]. Mai-Sachme is the one who removes the contents. Of course this would fall under another category than edit-war.--Patavium (talk) 00:21, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Patavium, we're not talking here about article-related topics, that's what articles' talk pages are made for. We are talking here about the fact that you reinserted controversial edits, completely ignoring the discussion, and even after being invited to take part in the discussion, continued to revert. You must realize that this kind of behaviour is not going to work out. Well, finally (but only after opening this case here) you seem to have stopped the edit warring. That's great, I'm sure we're going to find a consensual solution. But on the other hand I'd like to make sure that you don't start again with unilateral changes without searching for a consensus at the talk page. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 00:55, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    How could be considered an edit-war a simply attempt by an user to improve an article which is clearly affected by lack of neutrality? It sounds a little self-contradictory.. even considering that Mai-Sachme has been compelled to quit his contribution on it.wiki after was underlined his evident non-neutral approach, and Sajoch was blocked for a year (as he currently is) for pov-pushing and edit-war.
    I suggest to avoid every attempt to accuse other users just in order to discredit them or to intimidate them, I really hope sourced edit will be no more reverted by Mai-Sachme, and any contents or reliable sources will be no more removed aritrarily or just claiming for "no consensus". --Theirrulez (talk) 05:20, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Note: I was blocked "together" with Patavium for edit-warring, as i tried to correct some false statements. Admins on it.wiki do not care about who's wrong or right, but prefer to block whoever is involved in an edit-war.--Sajoch (talk) 11:18, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    This is simply not true, Sajoch. You are currenltly blocked on it.wiki for POV-pushing and editwarring on ladin and tyrol-related articles, as a single-purpose user, for a total block duration of 1 year. Patavium, on the contrary, has just been blocked for short period because he was involved in edit-war trying to avoid tour disruptive edits. I hope there's no need to link your block log and Italian community decisions about you. Theirrulez (talk) 15:02, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Theirrulez: You should stay on topic! This is not the place to discuss misjudgements on it.wiki, where I wasn't even allowed to defend myself. Many valid contributors quit it.wiki for exactly those reasons: it's impossible to correct even blatant errors, while admins prefer to get involved with politics.--Sajoch (talk) 18:02, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Sajoch, there is no need to misrepresent reality. You were blocked for damaging Wikipedia and for a high degree of incompatibility. On the contrary, you tried to pull users into political discussions rather than sticking to plain facts. The same thing you are trying to do here, making edit wars against plain vanilla statistic data you do not like - whyever - and inventing figures about how you would like things to be, whyever--Patavium (talk) 19:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Me and politics? :-) Again you're wrong and totally off topic: don't widen this discussion to distract from your problem!--Sajoch (talk) 20:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    You continue insisting with - off topic - Italian Wikipedia where you started up political discussions? As to me here, I have no problem but with the title of this notification. Actually it should be User:Sajoch and User:Mai-Sachme reported by User:Patavium, User:Felisopus and User:Theirrules. The problem is that you make exhausting edit-wars in order to avoid correction of blatant mistakes and POV inventions.--Patavium (talk) 21:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, if we didn't have sufficient prove that something's going wrong here, now we do. Patavium's desperately trying to gather some supporters. Theirrulez' interventions here follewed this edit on it.wikipedia, where Patavium asked him for help at this page, because I am supposed to have "eliminated" (yes, these are his words...) other users before him. By the way, Theirrulez seems to be some kind of emergency reserve. As I showed above, he also took part in the edit war, ignoring the discussion and simply reverting, after being asked to do so on it.wikipedia... Wikipedia:Meat puppetry at its highest level.
    Theirrulez, for you, being a user with an impresssive history of Italo-Balcanic edit warring and subject to extended 1RR restriction on WP:ARBMAC-related topics, it's an interesting move to appear here. Do you think your voice will be heard as a neutral comment? And do you think that false claims will help your and Patavium's case? Mai-Sachme has been compelled to quit his contribution on it.wiki after was underlined his evident non-neutral approach... What? I was compelled? By whom? I left the Italian wikipedia voluntarily after realizing that academic standards are not valued at all there. I left with a light heart and an empty blog log. Do we really need to have a look here at yours and Patavium's instead? And what should we think now, seeing that you're hastily clearing the last logged ARBMAC-warning from 27 april?
    Anyway, Patavium stopped edit warring now, but I'd really like to see an administrator constantly monitoring the situation. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 05:57, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:BLANKING#Removal_of_comments.2C_notices.2C_and_warnings. On it.wiki users aren't allowed to delete/hide anything, and would be blocked for such behaviour. How does en.wiki handle this?--Sajoch (talk) 11:18, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I have been involved in this discussion (without any warning until this morning, when I noticed to him) by the user Mai-Sachme, then I would reply. This will be my only speech, because this report is baseless. First, i did not start any edit-war (it's quite funny: for him I was doing an edit-war alone, because he doesn't mention any other user) because all my edits in three "ladin-related" articles were wiped out by a single user, Sajoch. This user on it.wiki has been blocked many times (and now for a year) for the same reason: edit-wars on everything related to Ladins. This has also affected the user Patavium, and this is not an insignificant detail. Certainly it's more relevant than an inexistent Meat puppetry: I wrote in a user talk page and only after the user Mai-Sachme asked to investigate the sources of it.wiki and he wrote that I needed help to express my opinion in English (sic) and that's exactly what I did, asking a more experienced and skilled user of it.wiki, about this topic. In conclusion, I reiterate that this report is baseless and can be closed. --Felisopus (talk) 09:40, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    a) You haven't be warned by me, because you stopped the edit warring and hence are not the subject of this report here.
    b) I didn't ask you to bring over some friends of yours or to investigate the sources of it.wiki. It's completely irrelevant what the Italian article says, that's unsourced hokum. It's sad that you made it obvious that you edited the article Ladin language without even knowing reliable scientific literature as to the topic. You must try to find sources before editing, and not afterwards. And it's even worse when you start an edit war without having sources...
    c) Well, maybe you had the best intentions asking Theirrulez for help, but the "experienced and skilled" user ("experienced" indeed, I alredy wrote about some interesting aspects of his wikipedia history...) didn't even bother to have a look at the talk page or to add sources or to explain his motivations: he simply restored exactly your additions, containing grammar mistakes, spelling mistakes and still unsourced claims.
    d) This report is not baseless. It may become baseless when the reported user (but the others, whose names were mentioned here, too) finally commits himself to find a consensual solution on the talk page of the article. I already wrote quite a lot there. Naturally, this can't work out as long as users edit unilaterally the article. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 10:23, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    This is about Patavium, not Felisopus, but anyhow:
    Felisopus repeatedly added the statement that ladins were subject to a constant process of "germanisation" (here, here and here) and denies the existence of the ladin ethnic group (here, here and here) without giving a single source and despite being reverted on that matter by 2 different editors. After realizing, he's alone with his POV, he calls for help, and two other editors (Theirrules and Patavium, both known on it.wiki for edit-warring on the same topics) chime in and revert, again without pointing to a single source. I would propose a ban for all three wranglers, that were unable to underpin their edits/reverts.--Sajoch (talk) 15:45, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    This discussion is becoming very long again. Unfortunately Sajoch and Mai-Sachme are specialists in making up extremely long discussions, hundreds of kb are not a rarity, with the sole aim of preventing edits they do not like. They make total reverts even when they do not agree with a word, so the behaviour in this case is nothing new.
    But if Mai-Sachme's action ist not collaborative but still handable, the case of Sajoch is much more complicated. He repeatedly tried to damage Italian Wikipedia, deleting edits and making comments clearly showing that he has no idea at all and that especially in discussions he was just playing the troll. It was very hard to stop him. Therefore his sanction was quite severe (but not as much as would have been necessary in his case). Now he tries this game again, manipulating census data, making original research with numbers and reverting sourced data.
    Back to this case, the total-revert-action was initiated by Sajoch and Mai-Sachme against Felisopus's and Theirrules's edits. I came afterwards in order to fix things. Just look at the chronology in order to see who made massive deletions.
    And we see again the problem: Sajoch has no idea about Germanization, so he does not allow to edit about it. He only knows Italianization, so it is only allowed to write about that. Sorry, but this is not acceptable.
    And again: he accuses Felisopus of denying the existence of a Ladin ethnicity. Well, this is not clearly assessed, there are still scholars assessing that being Ladin a mere Italian dialect Ladins are not entitled to be a detached ethnicity. Even Austrians counted Ladins as Italians. But the funny thing is that on one side Sajoch is scandalized if someone denies the existence of Ladin ethinicity, proposing even his ban. On the other side he has no scruples in denying the Ladin identity of thousands of people overtly declaring their Ladinità. The problem is that for Sajoch only counts his POV. So he accuses others of being POV. Well, on one Wikipedia he has been already unmasked. Maybe it's the turn for the next.--Patavium (talk) 19:37, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    No Patavium, my contribution here is short, while you're stretching the discussion with irrelevant and false claims. The one who is short of arguments needs to troll... Again you show, that you're unable to discuss the topic and search consensus on the topics talk page. That's why Mai-Sachme's decision to notify you here was overdue.--Sajoch (talk) 20:18, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Patavium: I would welcome if you did not resort to personal attacks and distortions of the issues. Firstly: You were also sanctioned for your behavior on the Italian wiki and now you're bring your grudge from the Italian wiki to the English wiki! Secondly: "to damage Italian Wikipedia", "clearly showing that he has no idea at all", "just playing the troll"... are your very own POV and I believe the constitute personal attacks. Therefore I would welcome it if you were to cancel those comments and refrain from further attacks on other editors! Thirdly: some of your comparisons (Germanization, Italianization), claims (Even Austrians counted Ladins as Italians), distortions of facts (no scruples in denying the Ladin identity of thousands of people) are despicable as they mix separate discussion points into one sentence with the aim of making Sajoch look dishonest. I believe such willful misrepresentation of facts expose a deep seated battleground mentality on your side that I find disconcerting. I hope you will refrain from such acts from now on as I do not want to see this discussion drift deeper into your personal animosities with Sajoch. Thank you; noclador (talk) 20:43, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Noclador: Sajoch's damages on Italian wikipedia were verifed and confirmed by several blocks. It'simply a fact that Sajoch has been reported and blocked many time for POV-pushing trough disruptive edits such as manipulation of sources, removing sourced contents, and discrediting his interlocutors. There's no personal attack by Patavium in noticing it, so I kindly invite everyone to avoid other wrongful or unsubstantiated accuses.Thanks. Theirrulez (talk) 15:02, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    You might have missed that this case here was opened as a response to massive edit warring in the article Ladin language by Patavium, not by Sajoch. Since Patavium has apparently stopped with this behaviour and will hopefully, from now on, discuss (based on reliable sources) any kind of controversial addition before taking direct action, this report may be closed. But please be aware that I won't hesitate to re-open it as soon as I notice the next undiscussed or (even worse) unsourced edit, maybe combined with the sudden and surprising appearance (yes Theirrulez, I'm talking about you) of follow-up edit warriors. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 18:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    @Noclador. I do not understand your intervention.
    It is not misrepresenation, it's the violations assessed on another Wikipedia. I did not want to cite it, because it has nothing to do with English Wikipedia, but as other users continue to make references to other language Wikipedias I had to respond to the accusations against me.
    By the way, Sajoch intensified his actions on Italian Wikipedia filling the accounts of other users with overtly wrong and misleading information. I can give you the evidence, if you want. Unfortunately Italian Wikipedia is extremely liberal to this respect and there were no additional consequences for him.
    Your allegations are not true. I made no comparisons between Germanization and Italianization, I simply mentioned the first in the article without comparing anything. It is no claim that Austrians counted Ladins as Italians. Do you want me to source even my contributions to discussion pages, don't you? As to the "distortions of facts": maybe you did not read Sajoch's contributions. He denies the evidence of linguistic declarations on one hand and on the other he invents his own statistic, completely ignoring demography. And even after a long discussion, he continues to make edit wars.
    Therefore I continue not to understand this notification. As I said, two editors had made additions that were removed via edit-war. Then I tried to fix things and the edit war went on. The edit warriors were Sajoch - to me no wonder - and unfortunately also Mai-Sachme.
    As I see, the latter has started a thematic discussion. That's fine to me.--Patavium (talk) 19:23, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Page protected - The article on the Ladin language is fully protected for ten days. Please use the steps of WP:Dispute resolution. EdJohnston (talk) 22:04, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Page: CrashPlan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Corporate Minion (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: more or less this version: [41]


    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [42] AND the user's page [43] and they were both ignored. User refused to participate, then used Twinkie to revert edits he disagree with.

    Comments:
    User exhibits pattern of using anti-vandalism tool Twinkie to revert edits he does not agree with. Here are some examples of such usage in addition to the aforementioned conflict:

    Request for IBAN (again)

    I was not aware of the rules using Twinkle (nor did I even realize that's what I was using).

    I would like to request an interaction ban again, as I have done before on AN[44] and on COIN[45] between myself and this user that continues to WP:HOUND and embrace a battleground mentality in a campaign targeted against me. For weeks this editor has been stalking every edit I make and finding every possible excuse to criticize me - creating contentious arguments at every opportunity. As I have said before, Cantaloupe has made me uncomfortable contributing anywhere knowing he will pounce on me. I do not have the patience or willpower to argue with him about every sentence of every article until the end of time.

    He says I reverted edits I "disagree with." Cantaloupe has spent hours criticizing my sourcing - I can't reasonably assume he doesn't know better. Given the context, we both know these edits are targeted at me and are not good-faith improvements, nor do they represent even an attempt at being neutral. Using your editing privileges to target editors is the definition of hounding. Corporate 01:03, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Comments

    • Both editors are in violation of 3RR at this point. I don't think much would be accomplished by blocks, however, since both have stopped edit warring, and this is an ongoing issue.
    • I concur with Corporate Minion (CM) that Cantaloupe has been "wiki-stalking" him. Corporate Minion does have a disclosed COI as a PR professional so extra scrutiny is expected and proper, but at some point that can cross the line into harassment.
    • A large part of the contested material that Cantaloupe added was sourced to a personal blog.
    • CM should have engaged on the talk page instead of edit warring, but I can understand his reluctance to engage with Cantaloupe in discussion over the content, given the history.
    • I don't think there's any issue with Twinkle access here. Nothing either user did with Twinkle couldn't have been done just as easily without Twinkle.
    • I was notified of this discussion by Corporate Minion. I was the responder to CM's requested edit template who inserted his replacement draft of the article, because I found it to be an improvement and not particularly promotional in tone.
    • An interaction ban may be justified if Cantaloupe continues to harass CM by destroying his work at all costs, using tactics like inserting negative information sourced to personal blogs, and baiting edit wars just to report CM. Gigs (talk) 01:36, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • The rules say that bright line is when you exceed the 3rd edit, meaning 4th edit, which I have not crossed. Further, in each revert, I asked corporate to provide explanation on talk page which he's ignored and resorted to repeatedly revert using Twinkie script. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 01:47, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • That's not how 3RR works. It's not a magic "gotcha" where you can do exactly 3 reverts and bait someone else into doing 4 and expect to get them blocked and not you. These sorts of tactics are exactly why I feel CM is justified in his claim that you are harassing him. Gigs (talk) 01:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Just as a technical point, twinkle is now a gadget, and we therefore no longer have the ability to disenable it for a particular editor. Even when we did have it, we did so only for consistent abuse of it, not accidental misuse a few times. I and every active editor have selected the wrong thing from a menu once in a while. I've seen it called a slip of the mouse. It's true we are getting very dependent upon twinkle, but then twinkle has been getting more and more capable, DGG ( talk ) 04:12, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I actually recommended that Corporate try for an IBAN earlier to head further conflict like this off, but Cantaloupe was unwilling to enter into a voluntary one and the AN thread was largely ignored. This may be due to the fact that the majority of the discussion actually occurred at COIN. Of course, that followed discussion Cantaloupe started at the NPOV board (note that link is not yet archived). My recommendation to Corporate for an IBAN is preserved at my talk archive. Cantaloupe has engaged in TE, HOUNDING, BATTLEGROUND mentality, and (it now seems) BAITing concerning Corporate. --Nouniquenames 06:35, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Canvassing/votestacking

    Corporate has canvassed four different editors of his choosing in a span of 20 minutes to come here and comment in a seeming attempt to recruit someone to represent him to sway the discussion rather than let the discussion run its course.

    Cantaloupe2 (talk) 01:47, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    DGG and myself are both known for being pretty tough on COI issues, and both of us were involved in the Crashplan talk page discussions prior to this edit war. I don't consider his solicitation of either of us two to be improper. I can't comment on the other solicitations. To me, this is yet another illustration of your trying to find any little excuse to catch corporate minion breaking a rule. This kind of behavior is harassment and isn't acceptable. Gigs (talk) 01:59, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    While my COI disclosure is what has attracted the harassment, I don't find it particularly relevant otherwise. I think the editors that would be good to canvass are those that care deeply about civility issues. Corporate 02:11, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Having commented on the discussion, I would naturally follow that page and pages related to it. And I suppose people knows that canvassing me does little good, as I do not always say what someone might expect. I note that I as well as Gigs have objected to some of the material CM added; but only some of it, not everything about which is possible to fabricate the objection. DGG ( talk ) 04:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    CM asked me to look into something on his talk page since I have had dealings with both users and their conflict before. This was a natural extension. I have provided him guidance there in this manner specifically relating to WP:EW. I don't consider his asking me to join in as improper, as I have watched a large portion of the history unfold. --Nouniquenames 06:06, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I would take it a step further than DGG's comment and say that some of my past work is so bad it's embarrassing. Sometimes content that was shared on the Talk page six months ago was actually written by me over a year ago. In large part, my personal shortcomings as an imperfect editor has given Cantaloupe validation for his stalking and personal attacks. So long as there is even a shred of valid content-based complaints, it is difficult to take a clear side. In this case in particular, given the context, it is not reasonable to AGF the case. Cantaloupe has complained about my use of blogs as sources to inject promotionalism when these blogs are some of the most recognizeable names in the field and are highly ranked; he criticizes the use of valid reliable sources as "just opinions" but adds critical content from a personal blog. Any reasonable person familiar with the background would know that both the edits and this complaint are not made in good faith. This latest incident is the clearest possible confirmation - we do not AGF in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary and in the context of civil/battleground/ABF/HOUND/etc. problems.
    If civility, AGF, and hounding are policies, they must have some kind of enforcement; otherwise they are nothing more than tips. Corporate 14:42, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I take it that you're referring to this edit. The source isn't used to support any claim and it is primarily used for the email correspondence that marks the company's words. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 14:53, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Proudbulgarian and User:MacedonianBoy reported by User:Peacemaker67 (ARBMAC warnings needed) (Result: Block, warning)

    Page: Independent Macedonia (1944) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Proudbulgarian (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
    User being reported: MacedonianBoy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: [50]

    User:Proudbulgarian

    User:MacedonianBoy

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [64] and [65]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [66]

    Comments:
    I have not been engaged in this edit war at all, and have only been monitoring it as one of the Balkans articles I keep an eye on. The edit summaries referring to vandalism and their failure to go to the talk page in any meaningful way illustrate the edit-warring behaviour. I have reminded the editors on the talkpage about ARBMAC, but this behaviour has continued regardless. As this is an ARBMAC area, both users probably need an ARBMAC warning from an admin as well as any other sanctions considered appropriate, although User:MacedonianBoy has been onwiki for years and has been blocked half-a-dozen times (all in 2008-2009), the last time on ARBMAC [67]. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 04:42, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I was forced to revert the user, because I asked the admin Future Perfect at S. to react, three times, and I did not get any response. You can see that I was aware of the rule, I explained that to the admin. Additionally, the user Proudbulgarian reverts and deletes content without discussion, lead by his nationalistic frustrations. You can see that on the talk page of Independent Macedonia, I was talking to my self. Similarly he deletes contents from Karposh's Rebellion. Someone needs to react, you let him edit war for a long time, not just with me, but with the User:Edward321, Proudbulagrian reverts Edwars for a long time. --MacedonianBoy (talk) 10:06, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Just a note, the first edit of mine is interwiki (on mk Wiki we were editing the article) and I saw that some things were misspelled in Macedonian, so I corrected it. Than Proudbg came and started his thing.--MacedonianBoy (talk) 10:43, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Why try and blame an admin for your own actions? You could have posted here if the admin you asked was unable to respond. Plus, you're doing the same at Karposh's Rebellion as well. Edit-warring is done by two (at least) and you're deep in it as one could get. Especially given your block log. --Laveol T 21:17, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    First the admin was able to react (he was online) and secondly, the edit warring was started long before I came. See the history and than post something here. Deletion of contents is something I do not support and therefore I reverted the user. He deletes everything and no one bothers, except Edward321. What can you do when the other person (Proudbg in this case) ignores every talk page discussions? In normal situations that would be counted as vandalism.--MacedonianBoy (talk) 22:09, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm sorry? "Every" talk page discussion? There is only one that you started on the page in question. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 23:03, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, sorry, it was only one. We talked on mk wiki as well. I did not open discussion about his deletion of the text from Karposh Rebellion since it's worthless. He does not answer me. Both pages are still missing text.--MacedonianBoy (talk) 23:09, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I suggest that ProudBulgarian be blocked for 72 hours and notified under WP:ARBMAC. The other reverting party was MacedonianBoy. In general, MB's edits appear to be closer to the past consensus on these articles but he has been warned and sanctioned under ARBMAC many times in the past, and this is clearcut edit-warring. The next episode like this will probably result in a three-month ban of MB from the Balkans under WP:ARBMAC. If ProudBulgarian, the other warrior, continues to revert after his block expires the same thing should be considered for him. EdJohnston (talk) 01:59, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Seems fair. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 07:18, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, I accept that. And what about the articles? Would they be reverted to the stable versions, before the user deleted the text?--MacedonianBoy (talk) 08:10, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Result: ProudBulgarian blocked 72 hours and warned under ARBMAC. MacedonianBoy is warned that further warring may lead to a topic ban even if he believes he is defending the consensus version. Next time don't revert, make a report. As to restoring the stable versions, ask Future Perfect for his advice or start a talk discussion somewhere. EdJohnston (talk) 14:24, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Patentman72 reported by User:Gnome de plume (Result: 24 hours)

    Page: AstroTurf (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Patentman72 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: [68]


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [73]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: I attempted to engage the user on his talk page here, but his response was simply another revert. Gnome de plume (talk) 16:36, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Comments:

    • The editor may have a conflict of interest. Their edits reword things so that the term "AstroTurf" is always used as an adjective rather than as a noun, similar to how a trademark holder (or their IP lawyer) would insist their trademark be used. The edits even go so far as to label the nominal use as "incorrect". The first edit summary also reads, "Correction of improper use of ASTROTURF trademark." It needs to be made clear to the editor that Wikipedia, as a third party, is not beholden to any legal requirements imposed on the trademark holder to protect their mark from dilution. —Psychonaut (talk) 16:52, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Darkstar1st reported by User:RolandR (Result: 48 hours)

    Page: Nazism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Darkstar1st (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: [74]


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [84]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [85], [86]

    Comments:

    Editor has been blocked several times for edit-warring, but persists in adding poorly substantiated claims against consensus. RolandR (talk) 00:09, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Darkstar1st reported by User:DD2K (Result: 48 hours)

    Page: Nazism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Darkstar1st (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: [87]


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [93]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [User talk:Darkstar1st#Edit_warring]

    Comments:
    Editor has consistently tried to force his POV into articles related to Nazism(Socialism related articles, ect..), and has been blocked numerous times for edit warring, and despite this still claims there is no need to bring issues to the Talk page before introducing controversial material into an article. Thanks. Dave Dial (talk) 00:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


    Looks like an equal number of back-and-forths by each side, with tag teaming on one side to keep numbers of any individual down. North8000 (talk) 00:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    That's nonsense. One editor made nine reverts, and was reverted by five separate editors, who were following talk page consensus. Of course there was an equal number of edits "by each side", but this is evidence of one editor's extreme stubbornness, not of tag-team editing. RolandR (talk) 08:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Enric Naval reported by User:Santos30 (Result:No violation; editors discussing)

    Crown of Castile (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    Enric Naval (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: [94]

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: User:109.154.249.15: [95]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [96]

    Comments:

    • User:Enric Naval re-start a 2nd edit warring to impose the same changes unreferenced, with wikipedia:es [97] = WP:PRIMARY.
    • User:Enric Naval have a disruptive behavior and imposes a war flag that confuses the correct flag of Spain [98] and deletes the coat of arms.

    --Santos30 (talk) 11:54, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    (edit conflict) I have replied in the talk page[99].
    About revert of the coat, I should have started a discussion instead of picking a new image when I was tired. I have started a discussion here. I have left for now the same coat as the Spanish wikipedia, and I have explained the reason in the talk page. Hopefully, Santos30 can agree that we want to display the last coat not the first one. We are already displaying the last flag not the first one. --Enric Naval (talk) 13:40, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Given that there was no 3RR violation, and that there is now a productive thread begun on the article talkpage, report closed with no action. Newyorkbrad (talk) 13:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Volkovp56 reported by User:Geraldo Perez (Result: )

    Page: List of How to Rock episodes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Volkovp56 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: [100]


    Diff of edit warring: [105]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [106]

    Comments:
    This is about a fairly major restructuring of the article based on an ambiguous reliable source. The original change was made by Volkopv56 [107] using that reference, a YouTube video of a network promo. His change was reverted [108] by an IP with a detailed edit summary as to why the edit was not acceptable. Volkopv56 has continued since then to assert his desired edit and has ignored all attempts to communicate and discuss the issue. He has not violated the 3RR but it appears he will continue to impose his desired changes and gives no indication he is willing to discuss this or work for consensus. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:07, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Wikinow1 reported by User:MisterUnit (Result: )

    Page: Georgina (name) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Wikinow1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: [109]


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: diff

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page 1: diff

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page 2: diff

    Comments:

    This user has a history of trying to insert "Georgina Booth" on lists all over the Wiki, even after the Wikipedia community determined that Georgina Booth is not yet notable enough for inclusion in this encyclopedia. I've spent some time cleaning most of it up, but now Wikinow1 is ignoring my attempts to communicate and putting Georgina Booth back into lists. I know that these diffs have taken place over a long period of time, more than 24 hours. However I feel it was appropriate to bring it up here to put a stop to it before it turns into a real 3RR violation. Thanks. MisterUnit (talk) 16:25, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:The Hut reported by Nomoskedasticity (talk) (Result: 4 days)

    Page: Marco Rubio (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: The Hut (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Time reported: 17:16, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

    Diffs are listed from oldest to newest, dates are in UTC

    1. 00:06, 8 November 2012 (edit summary: "/* "Religious views" */")
    2. 00:37, 8 November 2012 (edit summary: "/* "Religious views" */")
    3. 01:12, 8 November 2012 (edit summary: "/* "Religious views" */")
    4. 01:39, 8 November 2012 (edit summary: "/* "Religious views" */")
    5. 17:00, 8 November 2012 (edit summary: "")
    • Diff of warning: here
    • Edits listed above are groups in sequences (except for the last, a single edit). This editor has made no attempt to discuss on talk page.

    Nomoskedasticity (talk) 17:16, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User:U5K0 reported by User:ANDROBETA (Result: )

    Page: Chemtrail conspiracy theory (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: U5K0 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]


    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [115]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [116]

    Comments:

    Here I'm reporting an edit war he had with another user, he reverted me also but didn't reach the limit.