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Under ceremonial roles, Jimmy Carter is mentioned, but there is no hyperlink. Could this be changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.109.59.171 (talk) 04:13, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done--JayJasper (talk) 04:20, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I have a very mild problem with "Incumbent" under the President's picture. This should be changed to President. While the office is an elected one the fellow or lady should be identified by the office held. ~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.121.230.47 (talk) 22:59, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates

Why are the coordinates somewhere in the Middle East? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.253.27 (talk) 22:43, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't even understand why there are coordinates in this type of article. I've removed them. Maybe someone else understands the rationale for having them, but this is an article about a person. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:36, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! 216.165.253.27 (talk) 01:53, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Electoral College

The image used in the electoral college section is outdated. The electoral votes per state are for 2008, we should add 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.96.248 (talk) 00:41, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done [1]. TJRC (talk) 00:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


POTUS fad/meme

The use of the term "POTUS" (and the term FLOTUS, which gave rise to it) is funny, but just a reference to a recent meme stemming from Michelle Obama's use of the term. It seems like a very trivial fad to recognize in the first sentence of such a serious entry. I recommend that it be removed outright.

24.21.101.252 (talk) 08:25, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense! POTUS has been used as an acronym since, at least, the Nixon administration. There is nothing faddish or meme-like about it; it is simply an acronym. Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 11:22, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nonsense, indeed. In his 2004 book The Right Word in the Right Place at the Right Time, William F. Buckley, who served as one of Nixon's speechwriters, describes the use of, and possibly the genesis of, that acronym during the Nixon administration. See William F. Buckley (2004). The Right Word in the Right Place at the Right Time. Simon and Schuster. p. 300. ISBN 9780743242448. Retrieved September 16, 2012. He refers to FLOTUS as well—pre-Michelle Obama, obviously, given that the book was published four years before Obama took office. TJRC (talk) 22:57, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actual Compensation?

The article lists the changing Presidential salary approved by Congress. Is this the salary actually received by each President?

I ask because I recall reading once (no reference available) that a member of Congress who then takes a position in the Executive Branch cannot receive a salary for that position that he/she voted on while in Congress.

One result of this was that, because of G. Ford's long service in Congress, when he became President he received the same salary as FDR! True?

Just wondering...

NitPicker769 (talk) 22:51, 24 September 2012 (UTC):[reply]

FDR was dead before Ford was first elected to Congress. So it can't be entirely true. Rmhermen (talk) 17:42, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I think the logic is that Ford was in Congress when the 1949 Presidential salary increase was passed. So if my supposition were true Ford would only be eligible for the pre-1949 salary; ie Roosevelt's (and Truman's) NitPicker769 (talk) 22:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That "See also"

It needs to have a lot of crap removed, there's practically a hundred links down there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.101.12.26 (talk) 16:00, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the links seem to be tied to a template and are not visible, and thus not removable, from the edit screen. I wonder if we could make the list collapsible so it dosen't take up so much space?--NextUSprez (talk) 20:46, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 31 October 2012

In the "See also" section, move the link List of Presidents of the United States, being the main general-purpose list, to the top.

86.160.84.230 (talk) 21:46, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Although your request was undoubtedly made in good faith, please note that List of Presidents of the United States is already linked to in the hatnote at the top of the article.--JayJasper (talk) 04:40, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I see that now. However, if one misses that (as I originally did) and alights instead on "Lists relating to the United States presidency", it is the devil's job to find the general-purpose list from among the dozens and dozens of links. Regardless of whether the general list is also linked elsewhere, it should in my opinion be made very easy to find in "Lists relating to the United States presidency". 86.151.118.165 (talk) 12:05, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:SEEALSO "As a general rule the "See also" section should not repeat links which appear in the article's body or its navigation boxes." The hatnote is sufficient. Sorry you couldn't find it. Hot Stop (Edits) 12:56, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I completely disagree. It is common sense that the main, general list should be easy to find in that vast section. You are being blinded to the obvious. 86.151.118.165 (talk) 13:50, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I must say I agree with the anonymous user. I really don't feel it's in the spirit of Wikipedia policy to simply resort to citing them in lieu of a reasoned response - and besides, "Ignore All Rules" is one of the five pillars, and I believe it applies here, unless someone can contrive a decent argument in favour of *not* including this link in the "See Also" section, discounting the policy citation. Peace :). Psychonavigation (talk) 01:46, 9 November 2012 (UTC) (this is User:Psychonavigation, not logged in - please reply on my talk page)[reply]

is this sentence correct?

The amendment also specifies that if any eligible person who serves as president or acting president for more than two years of a term for which some other eligible person was elected president, the former can only be elected president once. I am not sure this sentence is correct.. though english is not my mother language --Maxbeer (talk) 14:59, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's correct. It's an accurate paraphrase of the text of the Twenty-second Amendment: ...no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. TJRC (talk) 18:10, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2nd Term

On November 06, 2012 Barack Obama was re-elected to the presidency for a term of 4 more years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelicasoler6 (talk • contribs) 06:33, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 7 November 2012

"Incumbent" to "President" because he has now locked in another 4 years. 98.207.92.213 (talk) 07:22, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Incumbent merely means person in office. Hot Stop (Edits) 07:37, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"POTUS"

I am questioning the legibility of the acronym (or initialism) POTUS, partly because one of the "of"s makes its in and not the other, but this only applies if we include "of America" to it, as is most likely not the case. Shouldn't it be "PotUSoA" or "PUSA", or at least "PotUS" or "PUS"? Do we really need it there anyway, it is not like people can't figure out that as a (possible) shorthand for the term/title/name/phrase anyway? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:C440:20:1116:B9ED:F2DC:718F:567C (talk) 21:27, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Initial sentence

The initial sentence should include either a parenthetical explanation or an explanatory footnote noting the basis for shortening the title to simply "the President"—used throughout this article—and abbreviating it to POTUS.

The scholarly authority for shortening does need explanation and is not self-evident, as there are other national leaders who have lengthy titles that are not shortened.

I propose:

The President of the United States of America (generally shortened to the President[1][2][3][4] and sometimes abbreviated POTUS[5]) is the head of state and head of government of the United States.

References

  1. ^ Post, Emily (1923) [1922]. Etiquette: In Society, in Business, in Politics, and at Home (9th ed.). Funk & Wagnalls Company. p. 214. The President of the United States is announced simply, "The President and Mrs. Harding." His title needs no qualifying appendage, since he and he solely, is the President. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameters: |laydate=, |laysummary=, |trans_title=, |trans_chapter=, |chapterurl=, |author-separator=, and |lastauthoramp= (help); Unknown parameter |author-name-separator= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |separator= ignored (help)CS1 maint: postscript (link)
  2. ^ Mencken, Henry Louis (1921) [1919]. The American Language: An Inquiry into the Development of English in the United States (2d ed.). Alfred A. Knopf, Inc. p. 139. Even the President of the United States, by law, is not the Honorable, but simply the President {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameters: |laydate=, |laysummary=, |trans_title=, |trans_chapter=, |chapterurl=, |author-separator=, and |lastauthoramp= (help); Unknown parameter |author-name-separator= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |separator= ignored (help)CS1 maint: postscript (link)
  3. ^ U.S. Government Printing Office Style Manual. U.S. Government Printing Office. 2008. p. 37. ISBN 9780160818134. Archived from the original (PDF) on November 8, 2012. To indicate preeminence or distinction in certain specified instances, a common-noun title immediately following the name of a person or used alone as a substitute for it is capitalized. Title of a head or assistant head of state: George W. Bush, President of the United States: the President {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameters: |laydate=, |author-name-separator=, |laysummary=, |trans_title=, |month=, |trans_chapter=, |chapterurl=, and |lastauthoramp= (help); Unknown parameter |author-separator= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |separator= ignored (help)CS1 maint: postscript (link)
  4. ^ Reinert, Al (1975). "Not Guilty". Texas Monthly. 3 (6). Emmis Communications: 103. ISSN 0148-7736. Richard Nixon was either (in respectful tones) "The President of the United States," or, less pompously, "the President. {{cite journal}}: Cite has empty unknown parameters: |laydate=, |laysummary=, |laysource=, and |trans_title= (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |separator= ignored (help)
  5. ^ Safire, William, "On language: POTUS and FLOTUS," New York Times, October 12, 1997. Retrieved January 8, 2012.

Infoman99 (talk) 17:18, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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