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November 6

Category:Male underwear models

Nominator's rationale: Merge. Models can and do model many different articles of clothing and are not defined by the articles themselves. Buck Winston (talk) 23:40, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Another fragmentary category, splitting up a small set of articles into smaller and smaller sub-categories. There is no evidence that homosexual males were or are treated differently at the episode level than how homosexual women or bisexuals of either sex is treated at the episode level. This fails WP:CATGRS which states that gender must be relevant to the subject. It is not relevant here. Buck Winston (talk) 23:30, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Central Districts cricketers

Nominator's rationale: The current name sounds like it refers to districts which are central (either in location or in importance); we should disambiguate it. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Photojournalists by country

Nominator's rationale: because the subcategories are photojournalists grouped by nationality, not by country/countries in which they work, and because the appropriate parent is Category:Categories by nationality (which is for people) not Category:Categories by country (which is not for people) BencherliteTalk 09:45, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sportspeople of multiple sports

Nominator's rationale: I see no reason why being notable in more than one sport is itself any more than the sum of its parts (that is, each sport separately); even if it is, this should be a list and not a category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:45, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I've never seen the point of this category either. The indivudal sports would be on the relevant bio page, and this doesn't serve any real purpose. Plus the wording is clumsy. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 07:55, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete this is not a notable level of categorization. It becomes overcat because we could have people in here for both swimming and water polo, which are not all that different. There are probably some cases where it could become disputed because it would not be clear whether the person was noted for more than one sport, or if their two sports were really the same sport.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:58, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now. First, this yet another nomination which proposes deletion without apparently looking the consequences. There are three different types of content in this category:
  1. Individual players, lot of them. Lumping them all together is silly; a football player who was also a competitive sailboat racer has little in common with a tennis player who also competed in badminton, or a swimmer who also did the long jump.
  2. Lists of multi-sport players'. We have at least 6 of those, such as List of Australian rules footballers and cricketers and List of New Zealand double-international sportspeople. Those lists should be in some common category.
  3. Sub-categories for specific intersections. So long as we have those categories, they should be in a common parent. None of them are included in this nomination, so deletion will deprive them of a common parent. I am no expert of sport, I do know that those who switched from Gaelic Football to Australian Rules football (see Category:Gaelic footballers who switched code) are a notable topic in Ireland. There may be similar significance for some of the other pairs, such as players who switched between Rugby union and Rugby League.
I have a lot of sympathy with the basic proposition behind the nomination, but it needs a lot more consideration. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:00, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete multiple categories do not work well. A person of French and Portuguese descent is not categorised as "French-Portuguese" but as of French descent and Portuguese descent. We should apply the same rule to those engages in multiple sports. Peterkingiron (talk) 11:34, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jurist stubs

Nominator's rationale: A more ENGVAR-neutral name, and matches most of the child categories. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:29, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom - most of the countries in the subcats do not use Jurist in this way. --Qetuth (talk) 09:52, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American musicians of Swedish descent

Nominator's rationale: Merge. Small category with little or no growth potential. Very few individual television episodes that deal with transgenderism are independently notable. This category fragments an already small set of articles into ever smaller and smaller categories. Buck Winston (talk) 01:38, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Same-sex marriage television episodes

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Small category unlikely to expand, also overcategorization based on what is ultimately a trivial thing. Not every aspect of every television series needs to be categorized and all of these new categories invite category clutter and fragmentation of a small set of articles. Buck Winston (talk) 01:36, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lesbian kiss episodes

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Overcategorization. Not every aspect of every episode of television needs a category. The existing list article Lesbian kiss episode serves nicely for anyone seeking information on the subject and includes links to each of the episodes. Buck Winston (talk) 01:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]