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Serbian autonomous region

I don't think that the phrase "Serbian autonomous region" is the correct phrase to use here, because it was never a legal autonomous region (like Vojvodina or Kosovo), it was more self styled by the breakaway govt. The way it was written in the article makes it sound like it was. Unless I am missing something. --Jesuislafete 01:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are many Wikipedia articles about things that could be described "non-legal" by somebody. The purpose of Wikipedia is not to writte only about "legal" things, but to collect entire human knowledge. The official name of the region used by the authorities of RS Krajina was "Srpska autonomna oblast" and that could be translated into English as "Serbian autonomous region". If you have better translation, please provide it. PANONIAN (talk) 09:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ok, I was thinking along the lines of Vojvodina with 'autonomous,' i thought it was seen as an official governent. --Jesuislafete 09:31, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But if we writte from the point of view of official Croatian government, then this region did not even officially existed, so it would be quite futile to discuss about its "official" name, right? PANONIAN (talk) 10:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Germans

Last census from 2001 show that, for example, 122 Germans live only in Beli Manastir: http://www.dzs.hr/Hrv/censuses/Census2001/Popis/H01_02_02/H01_02_02_zup14.html They certainly did not came back from Germany, did they? PANONIAN (talk) 21:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"3 Germans are not relevant in a region with 192000 inhabitants"

Öcsi, please do not start revert wars even about those simple things. I posted wrong link in edit summary by mistake, but here is correct one: http://www.dzs.hr/Hrv/censuses/Census2001/Popis/H01_02_02/H01_02_02_zup14.html Perhaps you do not understand Croatian, but according to this link there were 122 Germans ONLY in the town of Beli Manastir, not in the whole region, and it is 1.11% of population of the town, which is enough to be listed as one of the ethnic groups. Also, here you can see that 1,796 Rusyns live in Vukovar-Syrmia county: http://www.dzs.hr/Hrv/censuses/Census2001/Popis/H01_02_02/H01_02_02.html PANONIAN (talk) 22:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As you see I already have corrected it. --Öcsi 22:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But if they are so relevant, why don't they are in the article about Beli Manastir. --Öcsi 22:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That article is not on my watchlist, but nobody stopping you to list them there. :) In fact, I plan to post some demographics data into articles about municipalities of Croatia, but only after I finish this with municipalities in Macedonia and Central Serbia. PANONIAN (talk) 23:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you see here [1] Germans, I don't! --Öcsi 23:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You see them now, and Montenegrins too. :) PANONIAN (talk) 23:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Year of creation?

One of my sources claims that region was formed in May 1991. Who exactly claim that it was formed in 1990? PANONIAN 16:05, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What in the world happened here?

Not another nonsense state that never existed! There was the 'SAO Eastern Slavonia, Baranja and Western Syrmia' (1991) and then there was the 'Republic of Eastern Slavonia, Baranja and Western Syrmia' (1995-96). Who messed this up? There was never a state, self-proclaimed or otherwise, called "Eastern Slavonia, Baranja and Western Syrmia" that existed 1991-98.

The article was merged without consensus in a way that makes no sense. Reverting in toto. -- Director (talk) 19:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I want to make it clear that I understand the current title of this article is not entirely with naming guidelines, and I would not mind if it were moved back to "Eastern Slavonia, Baranja and Western Syrmia", but we simply cannot have a fake country here. I'm altogether opposed to a merge with the Republic of Eastern Slavonia, Baranja and Western Syrmia article, and the a-historical representation of this entity as a continuous 1991-98 republic(!). -- Director (talk) 20:27, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]