Talk:Ole Nydahl

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Lengthy Quotes and Criticism

A number of people edit this page and sometimes add lengthy quotes to the page. This is unusual compared to other biography pages in Wikipedia. I understand that people have strong opinions about Nydahl, however, I'm not sure if adding all these quotes really helps to inform the average reader that much. There has been a problem with the page becoming cluttered with numerous opinion quotes, so that over half the page was criticism of Nydahl and there was relatively little information about his actual life and work. The section pertaining to Nydahl's political views is becoming very lengthy, but the essential points seem to be that he has some critical views of Islam and that these are not related to his function as a Buddhist teacher. Additional quotes are basically unnecessary. In addition, the quote that was removed was not an official statement of Nydahl. --Mekinna1 (talk) 16:39, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The recently-deleted Nydahl quotation from "Buddha by Nature" should likely not be cited here as it was taken from a pre-premiere viewing sample of the film. According to the director, Berno Kürten, the quotation will not be included in the official release of the film; it is therefore a rather weak and questionable reference to include here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahakala108 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Guru Yoga by 16th Karmapa

Hi Mekinna1, the source you provided is behind a paywall. I'm uncertain what Wikipedia's policy on this kind of source is. Do you know and could provide a short link? Sceptic Watcher (talk) 21:32, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find the wikipedia policy on this issue, but I think there is a transcript of this lecture published somewhere. I will see if I can find that and use it instead. --Mekinna1 (talk) 19:33, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sleeping with Students, AGAIN

Interesting to come back to this article and see that the references to Nydahl sleeping with students has been edited out AGAIN without use of the talk page AGAIN. This has been discussed before and a consensus was reached between both proponetns and opponents. The consensus was that we should include the accusation that it is problematic that a "master" sleeps with his students but then also include Nydahl's reply that "there is the teacher-student-relationship is not "involved" in their having sex. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.26.24.200 (talk) 01:41, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If there are references, please provide them. Otherwise, unsourced contentious information like that will be removed per Wikipedia's Biographies of living persons policy. - Sudo Ghost 07:56, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

this has already been discussed. http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/article_bc6ed916-d197-11de-85b7-001cc4c002e0.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.26.24.200 (talk) 00:47, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you so obsessed with Nydahl's sex life? Perhaps you could tell us about yours, instead. There's nothing sacred about some specific version of the article on which a consensus was acheived at some past time. Consensus is ongoing, and this article can be changed to reword or even omit it if the consensus develops in that direction. In other words, harping on past consensus is not a very good argument. Stay in the moment. Be here now! Cheers! Yworo (talk) 02:13, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing wrong with a teacher having sex with a student, as long as the student has been given the proper empowerments.Merigar (talk) 03:10, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well that is PoW. Other people think differently. LOTS of other people. We should cover both sides of the debate and as the archives will show, this has already been discussed and a consensus has been reached. 46.26.24.200 (talk) 14:44, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia functions very much on reaching consensuses. As the present edit is not based on discussion, but on people editing the article to suit their own preferences, the past consensus takes precedence. Furthermore, as you can read in the archives, other people tried to make this matter into a discussion concerning an undue interest in somebody's sex life. Yet that is not the matter. The matter is about sleeping with students, which is controversial, which has been covered by third party reputable sources and which Nydahl has adressed himself. The Nydahl fans in here need to stop whitewashing, start using the talk page, and stop deflecting the issue by inserting errorneous arguments. 46.26.24.200 (talk) 14:47, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop editing the article, since it just you versus atleast three people. Merigar (talk) 22:40, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is about arguments, not a show of hands. If you can't offer up arguments, you should go away. 89.150.118.208 (talk) 23:51, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]