Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elizabeth Chan

Elizabeth Chan

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Fails GNG and even WP:CREATIVE. None of the sources seem reliable. The NYT "webdenda" ref doesn't even have a byline. little green rosetta(talk)
central scrutinizer 20:36, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - I concur that it doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE or WP:GNG criteria. Inclusion in a documentary does not meet "an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.". I don't see being involved in the production of a Facebook game as transferring any notability to the subject (even if we were able to establish independent notability for the game). Similarly being a newspaper author does not inherently meet notability guidelines. A case for notability could, however, potentially be made under WP:MUSIC. By the letter of the law iTunes chart does not qualify as a "national music chart." I'm inclined to challenge that and ask: What makes the iTunes chart inferior to a national chart for notability? -Rushyo ^Talk 21:28, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, iTunes isn't Billboard which has a more robust methodology then sales (Incidentically Billboard uses iTunes as part of their tabulation). But furthermore, this subject's work was ranked on iTunes "Holiday" charts. In September. At the moment it has 102 customer ratings. Considering that September is probably not a gangbuster time for Xmas sales and that the subject promoted this albumn the night before amongst friends, it is not unfair to assume this surge of downloads was anything more than a momentary blip. This is just puffery via social media. little green rosetta(talk)
central scrutinizer 22:40, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was going on "The lead single "A Christmas Song," reached #25 on the iTunes single charts on its debut." but noted. -Rushyo ^Talk 23:37, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that means anything. There are zillions of categories on iTunes, and there may have been only 25 songs in the Christmas song category to begin with!! Probably every song in the category "charted." It's quite meaningless. You could whistle or yodel a mariachi song into iTunes and have it "chart" for thirty minutes or so. Qworty (talk) 00:22, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:ENTERTAINER, WP:CREATIVE, WP:ADVERT, WP:NMUSIC, WP:BIO, WP:RS and WP:GNG, just to name a few. If you look closely at the sourcing, you'll note that it is all subpar. All of it is one form of advertising or another. Advertising is not independent coverage, obviously. Bear in mind WP:42. It goes against policy for entities to create advertising around a person and then try to put that person on Wikipedia on that basis. That's not how notability works. Qworty (talk) 23:18, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What on earth has been going on here! I was alerted to this situation through fans to check this dialogue out. I am the subject at hand. Fans maintain the page. I would actually prefer no Wikipedia entry. I would like a copy of this log to be remitted to me to add to the investigation thanks! Rosepetalcrush has been logged numerous vandalizations on the page and so I think deletion is smart! and on other web entities for libelous issues. Feel free to delete! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizbethxq (talk • contribs) 02:34, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This woman has slandered my name on Facebook and has mentioned this page to me several times in her rants against me. She is in charge of this page, not her fans. This woman is reporting me to the NYPD police for no reason. I have done nothing wrong in editing this article about her, and she know's it. She dislikes my comments about her music and is reporting me to the police because she cannot handle the truth. This is very upsetting. I would appreciate you not aid her in this 'investigation.' However, I am simply making a request. In the end you should do what you like. I'd simply appreciate some consideration on my behalf. User:RosePetalCrush —Preceding undated comment added 02:45, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There should be a block of any and all accounts making legal threats. I don't know why that wasn't done long ago. I am so sorry you are going through this intolerable situation. Qworty (talk) 02:54, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Qworty - This is the subject at hand - do not listen to RosePetalCrush. She is stalking me and using this wikipedia page as a method of communication. Please delete this page. I am not in charge of this page AT ALL. Look at how she wants to talk to me. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizbethxq (talk • contribs) 03:05, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Qworty - Trust me. Delete the page. I need to rid of this person from trying to contact me or gain my attention.

Qworty, thanks for replying. You've been a real help with this mess. This is the most bizarre situation I've ever been in on the internet. RosePetalCrush —Preceding undated comment added 03:02, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is ridiculous. I have no desire to speak with Lizbethxq. I'm simply stating my situation with this woman. --RosePetalCrush (talk) 03:12, 4 December 2012 (UTC) I am stepping away from this topic and will make no further comments on the talk pages at the request of a mod. I don't wish to cause a headache with the staff here. --RosePetalCrush (talk) 03:16, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]