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The Signpost: 26 November 2012

The Signpost: 03 December 2012

GF6 removal on the Lancaster University article

When editing out a section, you should probably place a comment on the talk page. Major changes to articles like that are not so easily done, especially when it is effectively removing the only controversial information on the article, without discussion. I have re-instated. If you wish to remove it, discuss why.

Note that the non-inclusion or mis-categorisation of information are not valid reasons to remove other information. They would be reasons to add more information and re-title it to another section. Thanks 86.184.10.58 (talk) 20:48, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A one time IP giving lectures? Read WP:BRD ----Snowded TALK 22:41, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Please take it to the talk page of the article-86.151.187.72 (talk) 21:55, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

hello

Hello Snowded, could you please observe and follow this when editing please. Also can you please change the NLP article edits so that it is NPOV. Much appreciated. WP:COI. Enemesis (talk) 17:28, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looking through your two attempts to edit this page I assume "this" means COI? If so either you or one of the other coitere of SPA NPL advocates to arrive every time Comaze manifests himself with a new identity have already attempted that. If you check the acccusation was rejected by the community. The fact that you make it again demonstrates that you have not put the time and effort into understanding WIkipedia policy. The NPOV point is further illustration of this - we are neutral between the sources, not between pro and anti- factions. I suggest you do three things. Firstly look up WIkipedia policy on editing, Secondly in respect of the COI accusations look up Matthew 7:3, thirdly try and find some sources that support your view rather than constantly spouting your own opinions and making specious accusations against other editors ----Snowded TALK 20:45, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I can't help but wonder, could Enemsis & the other SPAs, possibley be socks of Irvine22? GoodDay (talk) 00:12, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am pretty sure not. We have one editor Comaze, who was warned by Armcom, who appears every six months or so with a new name and the same agenda. We have proof of one act of meat puppetry but I am pretty sure that the cluster of SPAs (All NLP practitioners if you look) who appear at the same time are in the main meat puppets. There are web sites, some of which have been found that provide "evidence" and advice on how to intervene here. Comaze does have a commercial interest as well. I'm putting it all together over Christmas for Arbcom enforcement as its gone on too long now. ----Snowded TALK 00:16, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 17 December 2012

Hedd Wyn

Thanks for your intervention at List of World War I films. And for reinstating the correct production country information for Hedd Wyn which, I'm sure you will have noticed by now, has been reverted – with the erroneous edit summary “You are the 3rd biggest "contributor", so-called, to this page due to the frequency of your obsessive vandalism.”. What's to be done, eh? Daicaregos (talk) 10:29, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've raised the issue with a previously involved admin. If that doesn't worked its ANI, but he will end up with an indef if we go that route and he does contribute useful stuff. ----Snowded TALK 10:30, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't want that. But nor do I want editors to delete reliably sourced material, agreed at the Reliable sources noticeboard, and adding their own opinion. That's a dilemma. Daicaregos (talk) 10:40, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Given his block log there is no learning taking place. DId he really ask the BFI for an opinion on you? I'm a member so tempted to ask! ----Snowded TALK 10:44, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Even if he did, which is most likely another of his fantasies, would they really have responded that I “was full of shit”. Why would they disagree with their own website anyway? The BFI reference states Hedd Wyn's production country as Wales. Interesting that he seems so proud of being a contributor to IMDb, which Wikipedia do not consider a reliable source – most likely due to rogue editors providing their own opinions, rather than providing facts, as here. Daicaregos (talk) 11:15, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: NLP

This is twice now that I have approached you about a COI and also NPOV issue in the NLP article. Can I please ask and instruct you nicely to reformat the article to something that is both informative and educational as well as being descriptive of your views?Enemesis (talk) 08:15, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The COI silliness has been raised before (twice) and dismissed. The article is NPOV in respect of sources, its nothing to do with my views or yours. Get more sources and we can look at it again, otherwise you are continuing to waste everyone's time ----Snowded TALK 08:14, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
LOL, just seen that you are are not asking, you are instructing! Comical, you really have not put any effort into understanding Wikipedia have you? ----Snowded TALK 08:21, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think any negative commentary about NLP amounts to a review of the subject and is not really the subject itself. It may just need it's own section to give the article clarity and remove any abstract understanding about what it is. would you believe this is fair? Enemesis (talk) 12:26, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
also I don't really know if the COI has been raised twice before and dismissed. Enemesis (talk) 12:27, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, the lede summarises the article and the third party sources are substantially negative. Its not a POV in wikipedia terms. Otherwise I gave you one link, you are as capable of searching the archives as I am. ----Snowded TALK 12:30, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The article isnt about the points of view on NLP it's about NLP, I hope this helps Uw-coi Enemesis (talk) 13:00, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If you have finally realised that we might be getting somewhere, the fact that you still link it to COI however implies a perverse persistence of a more basic misunderstanding of what POV means. Oh, try reading links given to you before you make a complete fool of yourself ----Snowded TALK 13:11, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


The lede summarises the article that you have contributed to and abstracts the subject matter. Enemesis (talk) 00:00, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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