Talk:Class of the Titans

Cronos' Time Powers

Although Cronos is called the "God of Time" in the promos, I never saw him demonstrate any kind of time related powers. Mostly he seemed to be able to create monsters and reshape lifeforms into monsters.

Well, In the 90 minute "special presentation", he made the clock move backwards one second before New Year's Day and again when he made the sun rise 1.35 seconds late.

The sun rises late because he's actually slowing down the planet.

Cronos also uses his time powers to send Herry back in the past to perform Hercules' labours in episode 1.21: Labour Day.

Also in the "special presentation", he stops time for a split second at the power plant.

Atlanta's New Weapon

While she didn't actually end up replacing her bolas, it would be great if someone who caught the name of that wristband weapon she wore in episode 1.16: Get Kraken, as well as what it does exactly, added that to the gadgets and Vehicles section. Xanthophiliac 01:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, I found the name after reading the draft script for episode 1.23: Cronus' Flying Circus. The weapon name's been added, though the function explanation is fairly short. Xanthophiliac 00:17, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I have not seen Atlanta using her steel bolas after episode 1.16: Get Kraken.

Splitting the Article

With the amount of detail and information that's being put into the different entries, not to mention that there are still many episodes of the first season left, the article should probably be divded up into several pages. I'm thinking lists like the Gadgets and Vehicles, Guest Stars, and Locations should probably be put on their own pages and linked from the main article, but maybe that's not the best way to divide it up. Xanthophiliac 03:43, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Voice Actors

Does anyone know the show's voice actors? If so, could they put it on this article? Thanks.

I've included all of the voice actors I can find on imdb.com, tv.com, and from watching some of the episodes' end credits, but there's definitely still quite a bit of information left to find. Xanthophiliac 03:39, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Great. Thanks.

The Good Looking vs. The Good-Looking

On the show's opening theme song, Neil's title is "The Good-Looking" while on this article and Teletoon's website, Neil's title is "The Good Looking". Which is correct?

Grammatically, "Good-Looking" is correct. Incidentally, while it surprises the kids, the mythological Athena was mistress of all physical skills, cooking included.

Guest Stars = Secondary Characters?

In this article, some characters that only appeared in one episode are placed as Secondary Characters but others are placed under Guest Stars. Why?

The tendency seems to be to place characters who are gods into the Secondary Characters category to keep all of those interpretations together, but you're probably right that a number of them should be placed in Guest Stars, at least for now. Is there a criteria for how often a character has to have appeared before they can be listed as a Secondary Character? Xanthophiliac 13:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Not that I know of.

The Couples Section

From looking at the editing history of the main article, there seems to be some contension as to whether the Couples section should exist or not. Discuss. Xanthophiliac 02:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

It seems trivial, considering that it's just a fan's opinion of what is popular about the series. It isn't particularly key to the story.

I agree. I personally don't think it's important enough to include as a seperate section on its own, especially since the same information is already conveyed better and somewhat more objectively. It's not the main focus of the series either, but then again, that is opinion. That section also, I think, doesn't match the rest of the article in terms of how encylcopaedia-like it is -- like you said, it's more opinion than information -- and the slash thing is especially too arbitrary (particularly when it was originally cited as one fic, then two -- is someone just going to keep increasing the number everytime a story is uploaded? It seems extremely trivial). So, to sum it up, I personally think the relationships section should be REMOVED for now, with the information relevant to it dispered in the Main Characters section. If it becomes a much bigger issue (eg. like it seem like it will in Season 2), then maybe include it then. Xanthophiliac 03:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Odie's Resemblance to Odysseus

One of the more recent additions to Odie's entry in the Main Characters section is that he 'bears no physical resemblance to his ancestor'. Personally, I disagree with this statement. While there is clearly a marked racial-ethnic difference (then again, the other characters, with a partial exception of Jay, don't seem particularly Greek), the show's interpretation of Odysseus does, in fact, bear a bit of a physical resemblance to Odie. In episode 1.17: Eye for an Eye, Chiron brings out scrolls telling of the blinding of Polyphemus, and on the one scroll depicting Odysseus, he very clearly looks a lot of Odie, particularly in terms of the hairstyle. I personally support removing the phrase about no physical resemblance, but I would like to hear what others think too. Xanthophiliac 02:24, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

In several episodes, other characters don't seem to agree. Aeolus in 1.15 Odie-sey says that Odie doesn't really look like Odysseus (though the love-sick Calypso seems to think he does). In 1.17 Eye for an Eye, Polyphemus also says that Odie doesn't really look Odysseus either (though he also says that none of the heroes are as he expected when Cronus shows them the descendants). Odie doesn't seem to think he resembles Odysseus particularly, considering in 1.6 Trojan Horse when he's researching his ancestor, he remarks "we don't even look alike". Well, even with all my contradictory comments, I don't think the phrase should be removed necessarily, but maybe made less extreme?

Less extreme is fine with me. It's definitely one of those sorts of opinion-ish sorts of things. Xanthophiliac 03:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

To add to the confusion, I watched the Trojan Horse episode today, and the bust of Odysseus that Odie looks at on his computer is VERY different from how Odysseus is protrayed on the scrolls in Eye for an Eye. Very confusing. Xanthophiliac 03:30, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Confirmation for Certain Speculations?

A number of recent additions to the Main Characters section have prompted me to wonder whether they should be included at all, since they are based on speculation or almost entirely baseless. For example, the idea of Atlanta being the youngest. We know she is a junior, but we don't really know anyone else's age, so to speculate from that alone that she is the youngest seems like a jump in conclusions. Yes, she got upset when Archie said he could take orders from a junior, but that isn't proof she's the youngest. Odie sometimes seems to be refered to as the youngest one (that, or they're refering to his size), but either way, we DON'T have any way of knowing who's youngest, and I think that should be removed.

Also, someone added that Theresa can use her clairvoyance to cast magic spells. Maybe this was done in the Hecate episode, but we have seen it, and thus, I don't think it should be included. Likewise, I think this may have also come from the draft script of the Melampus episode, BUT that episode also has not aired and has apparently been changed drastically, so I don't think it should be included. Along similar lines, the information about Neil giving Archie a makeover was also from that draft script, and since we don't know whether it made it into the final version, I think that bit should also be removed. Xanthophiliac 21:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Who's Hecate?

It's kind of complicated, actually. In our modern times, we'd probably say she was the Goddess of Witchcraft, but her domains were a little more complex and varied than that in Greek mythology, and it kind of depends on your source (like most myths). Generally, she's the Goddess of Crossroads -- hence the title of her episode -- and in ancient Greece, crossroads were actually y-shaped and represented a character having to make a difficult choice (hence the three roads -- the one you're on eventually forks to two paths). She's also sometimes a moon goddess (along with Selene and Artemis) and is also a chthonic goddess, among other things. We'll have to see what her episode is like before we can speculate on her portrayl in the much beyond the official summary. Xanthophiliac 03:59, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Discrepencies and Trivia

This section is getting a little too long. Is there anyway to make it shorter, either by taking stuff out or spliting the section up?

I was thinking of re-organizing it under episode headers, but at the same time, I think some of the trivia may be violating Wikipedia's policy regarding new theories and speculation. However, given that I've written-up most of this section (sorry) and I am currently putting together a comprehensive fansite with a big mythology section, I could always move the material there and expand on it and just link to it from this page's Links section. But I'll need to back-up the list first, since I don't have it saved anywhere else and I doubt I could re-recall everything from memory. Xanthophiliac 06:36, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good. Maybe someone ambitious with enough time could sort it out.

Animation Template Box

I originally put the animation template up in the first section, but someone has since removed it, but without explaining why. Can someone please clarify this? If there's no strong reason for why it was removed, I will put it back up. Xanthophiliac 22:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Harpy Exam Results

This information strikes me as excessive and not exactly fitting a section that basically acts as a bestiary, and should therefore be removed. That sort of stuff seems more suited to plot summaries, if someone were to begin creating individual articles for each episode. What does everyone else thing? Xanthophiliac 17:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

stereotypical queer man?????

Hey, when was this piece written? The '50's?? Hades is the "stereotypical queer man"??

Wikipedia has become one of the most important sources of information on the internet or anywhere, so it would be better if archaic language such as this were edited.

Does anyone else agree??

Spontaneous Combustion?

Since when has Cronos demonstrated spontanious combustion as one of his powers? Also, I think we should put back super healing as one of his powers.

I think it's refering to the time in 1.17: Eye for an Eye where he waved his hand at the furnace and the interior instantly lit on fire. But I agree on adding super-healing back. Xanthophiliac 22:57, 6 May 2006 (UTC)