Talk:Prunus mume

Improving this article

In an attempt to avoid an edit war, I thought I'd mention my concerns about the main article here before making changes.

1) The lead-in section of the article and the "Names" section offer slightly contradictory information. The lead section emphasizes "ume" and "Japanese apricot" whereas the "Names" section highlights Japanese apricot, Japanese plum, and Chinese plum. I would suggest either removing the names information from the lead since it's dealt with in detail in the "Names" section, or have a sentence to the effect of "Prunus mume is known by a variety of names in English, including ..." although that will get a bit redundant with the "Names" section.

2) Why is Jiangnan specifically referenced with respect to meiyu / tsuyu? Can we change that to the more general "the rainy season of China and Japan"?

3) "Ume" is used as the default term in much of the article (because the article was, of course, at "ume") ... there's no easy fix for this, but some combination of "prunus mume" and the culture-specific terms (i.e., refering to it as "ume" in Japanese contexts, "maesil" in Korean contexts) might be best. CES (talk) 11:58, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

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Common names of Prunus mume

Recently there are edits about the common name of Prunus mume, however the common name of Prunus mume is "Japanese apricot" according to the following reliable sources.

• "Prunus mume Siebold & Zucc". USDA, ARS, National Genetic Resources Program. Japanese apricot (Source: World Econ Pl) – English
• "Prunus mume Sieb. et Zucc". MULTILINGUAL MULTISCRIPT PLANT NAME DATABASE, The University of Melbourne. ENGLISH : Japanese apricot.

"Chinese plum", "ume" or "mume" is not common names of Prunus mume. "Chinese plum" is referred to "Prunus salicina".

• "Prunus salicina Lindley". MULTILINGUAL MULTISCRIPT PLANT NAME DATABASE. The University of Melbourne. ENGLISH : Japanese plum, Chinese plum.

"ume" and "mume" are simply transliterations of Japanese or Chinese words. If any objections to this comment, I will edit this article accordingly. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:28, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

The recent edit in common names added the term "mei" to coincide with "ume", both mostly somewhat known inside their own cultural groups. No big objection from me to remove both from the common names, the names section covers those terms nicely and I think we can leave it at that. "Chinese plum" generally refers to the Prunus mume, more than the salicina, a quick google search shows it. I highly oppose to removing "Chinese plum" and make this article a big POV. I haven't seen any concrete English name for it if it even excists, so my suggestion.... is to leave it at Chinese plum and Japanese apricot for the common names. Caca7 (talk) 15:29, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

I couldn't find any reliable sources that say "Chinese plum" is a common name of "Prunus mume". Unless you provide reliable sources to prove it, I will remove the name from this article. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 00:23, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I went ahead and added the reference in the article if that's ok. http://www.kew.org/plants-fungi/Prunus-mume.htm Caca7 (talk) 02:05, 1 July 2011 (UTC)