User talk:Night w

Mentioned

Hello Night w. Your name has been mentioned at User talk:EdJohnston#List of sovereign states in the 1980s. By the way, if you do intend to involve yourself in a possible-stressful debate on this issue, when you immediately clear all comments by others from your talk page it suggests you are not interested in discussion. An editor has proposed adding your name to the list of those warned under ARBPIA, but I am holding off on certifying that until I see if those involved will negotiate in good faith in the sovereignty dispute. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 14:24, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

You're good with sources Night, so if you could provide a few for discussion, that'd be great. CMD (talk) 17:44, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

They were notices, Ed, not comments. Archiving them suggests that I have read them. Nightw 03:08, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For your great work on List of sovereign states. Keep up, and this article will be always great, as it is now. WhiteWriterspeaks 21:34, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

File:Azerbaijan (orthographic projection).svg

Hello. On the map of Azerbaijan should be colored in light green to Nagorno-Karabakh, you can do it? Regards. MauriManya (talk) 21:30, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Do not worry. The map is fine, and I changed it in the article on Azerbaijan. As I saw the consensus is colored in light green the territories where the country has no control, as applied in this case. For Somalia and Somaliland as well, but have reverted my edits in article and have not heard who asked to do the change on the map. You could make the change on the map? Regards. MauriManya (talk) 02:31, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Have reversed my edit the article on Azerbaijan. You could directly modify this map? MauriManya (talk) 18:20, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

A link

Shortly before the List of current Indian pretenders page was deleted, following the afd, I saved a copy of it at User:Moonraker/I. I find it interesting and helpful, even though I agreed with some of its opponents that many of the sources were poor and the title was questionable. Please feel free to use it for your own reference and to edit it if it can be improved on. Moonraker (talk) 18:12, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Moonraker. I have a copy of it on file myself, but having a copy on-wiki that I can modify is definitely useful. I haven't had the time to look into the sources just yet, but hopefully will eventually. Nightw 11:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

R&N Userbox

Hello, Night w! You can add the new userbox for the Royalty & Nobility taskforce, {{User WikiProject Royalty and Nobility}}, to your userpage! - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 11:54, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Liberia

Liberia and Palestine had contacts at the presidential level since 2007 (possibly then diplomatic relations were established with the PNA) sources http://english.wafa.ps/index.php?action=detail&id=10639 --83.149.2.103 (talk) 16:03, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Proposed Edit to "Pretender" Article

By way of introduction, I am User:Brendan_Oisin, a relative newcomer to Wikipedia (WP). I respectfully request your guidance.

This is intended to initiate suggestion for a change to an article with which I believe you are associated - "Pretender" (and, more specifically, its section of "List of current pretenders"). Within that list, my suggestion pertains to the Ireland sub-section, and the addition of Liam Trant MacCarthy Mór, Prince of Desmond, to the current listing of pretenders to Gaelic-Irish historic monarchies.

Rather than make the direct edit to the article _first_, I have prepared the proposed change on my User Sandbox, where I can also present notes and references to help support the basis for this proposed addition to the list, and to provide a venue for any questions and/or discussion that might be required _before_ such an edit might be accepted or contested.

If this approach is agreeable to you, please see what I propose at User:Brendan_Oisin/sandbox . Please indicate, on my Talk page, whether you feel my proposed edit is acceptable as it is, or what might be required to make it so. Of course, I will be pleased to respond to any questions, or need for further information, you may have. Thank you, in advance, for your courtesy.

Respectfully Yours, Brendan Oisin (talk) 16:29, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

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Requested move of Côte d'Ivoire

There is currently a discussion on moving the article Côte d'Ivoire to Ivory Coast. You are being notified since you participated in a previous discussion on this topic. Please join the discussion here if you are interested. TDL (talk) 02:30, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

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List of World Heritage Sites in Oceania

Hey, you did a fantastic job on List of World Heritage Sites in Oceania! You ought to consider nominating it to become a WP:Featured list, similar to List of World Heritage Sites in Africa. The lead section could be expanded a little, but this is an excellent candidate to become an FL! Reywas92^Talk 16:39, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed response. I would say you could talk about the biggest site, smallest site, most recently inscribed site, and a sumamry of locations. It already says the number of cultural, natural, and mixed, sites, but you could also mention that many represent whole islands, while others are oceanic sites, that three represent buildings and others are also designated as national parks or similar by their countries. There may be some other tweaks necessary, but I see no reason why this shouldn't be featured. Reywas92^Talk 21:16, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For your continuing editing. And patience. Outback the koala (talk) 22:23, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thank you Outback! I'm afraid I haven't been editing much lately at all.. I decided last year to take the year off because of real-life stuff. I'm sort of back now, but not yet back up to the level I was before. It's great to see you and all the other old names still around! Nightw 12:42, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Would appreciate your input: World Heritage lists

Hi Night w,

I noticed that you are one of the active people on the World Heritage lists. As you may have noticed I started a discussion at the WikiProject talk page a while ago about adopting a different structure for the lists. The templated structure would allow to build upon the pages more effectively with external tools. I hope that you would be willing to give some feedback on the design and implications. You can find a sample page on My Sandbox and you will find the appropriate discussion on the talk page of the template. I look forward to your input!

Kind regards, effeietsanders 18:37, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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List of Sovereign Monarchs-the name of the Belgian Royal Family-link; evidence etc.

Greetings, Nightw. I hope you are well.

As regards the changing of the name of the Belgian Royal House; I found the following to corroborate it (you may have to scroll down to see it):

http://www.belgium.be/en/binaries/280410_monarchie_EN_tcm115-103847.pdf

Yours,

JWULTRABLIZZARD (talk) 17:41, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Removal of content

Hi, regarding your revert[1] on the article State of Palestine.

Unknowingly you have reverted more than a dozen edits, which included several sourced statements. The topic of discussion was an unrelated almost month old edit[2](POV section beforehand), which I recently summed up again here[3]. The currently reverted material is not part of edit warring(at least on part) but tendentious editing on part of Japinderum. In fact instead of reporting Japinderum violation of WP:1RR, with blanket edit and later reverts, I have tried to reason with him, explaining him the rational behind my edits [4]. However there is a limit to what we can endure.

If you wish to raise objection to recent added sourced material, please do so on the talk page, I would appreciate someone more focused to discuss it with. Thanks.--Mor2 (talk) 04:35, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

It looks like "Japinderum" is arguing that the phrasing you use portrays the Montevideo Convention as the defining criteria of statehood while ignoring others. The Montevideo criteria has no legal standing in international law, it was just an attempt at codifying one of two widely used theories. None of this has anything to do with Palestine. All that needs to be mentioned is that the UN membership is only available to sovereign states and that a debate exists as to whether Palestine is a sovereign state. Nightw 07:05, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Its not my phrasing, its the initial variant copy/pasted from Member states of the United Nations. I have no problem with making adjustments to that sentence. I too think that the 'Montevideo Convention' part is unnecessary and that the various views on statehood better expressed in the sovereign states article. The issue here is that operative word is "adjustment" something that he/you/anyone can do with a simple edit summary, not a section wide revert.

Would you mind if I re-post your comment on the Talk:State_of_Palestine#Revert, maybe it will help "Japinderum" to formulate his other arguments? cheers--Mor2 (talk) 07:57, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead. Nightw 07:59, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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Current sovereign monarchs (King of Swaziland pictured) are distinguished by their titles and styles, which in most cases are defined by tradition, and guaranteed under the state's constitution. A monarch is the person who heads a monarchy, a form of government in which a state or polity is ruled by an individual who normally rules for life or until abdication. In political and sociocultural studies, monarchies are normally associated with hereditary rule; most monarchs, in both historical and contemporary contexts, have been born and raised within a royal family. Some monarchies, however, are not hereditary, and the ruler is instead determined through an elective process. Most states only have a single monarch at any given time, although a regent may rule when the monarch is a minor, not present, or otherwise incapable of ruling.

your post

At Template talk:Palestinian National Authority and the Palestinian people you seemed to be trying to respond to TheCuriousGnome but forgot to add a ":". I added it for you, if it wasn't your intension to respond to TheCuriousGnome, feel free to revert. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 02:55, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh, it wasn't a reply really, I was just commenting on the value of what they said. It's fine where you've put it though. Nightw 01:02, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Southeast Asian royal houses

As you did a lot of work on current monarchs, I was wondering if you had any information on Malay and similar royal houses? I can't find any pages we have about the houses themselves. Regards, CMD (talk) 17:15, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it's hard to come by acceptable sources on that kind of stuff unfortunately. I think I have some photos from some of the royal museums in Malaysia and Brunei that show the biographies of members. I'll try to dig them up this weekend and upload them, and I think a lot of the info might also be available on government websites.

The only Malaysian house with an article at the moment is Perlis. Cambodia is the Varman dynasty, but at the moment that title covers the Assamese kingdom. Thailand, Laos, Vietnam and Burma have articles. I'll get back to you with that information and hopefully some links too (pretty sure they'll be in Malay though). Nightw 02:07, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Out of all the Malay royal houses, the house of Perlis is the one that has an article? Surprising. Please see here, where an editor has changed the name of the founder of the Malacca Sultanate's house to Sang Sapurba. I can't see the source used, and I can't myself find any evidence online to back up their assertions. Royalark (only decent source I've found, although I can't remember whether it was determined reliable on RS/N or not) doesn't give a name for the house. I don't think linking to an article on a person helps explain the house, especially compared to the empire from which they came. Is there a chance you have anything? CMD (talk) 09:16, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm not too familiar with that bit of history, but I do know that most of it is based entirely on the Malay Annals, and nobody knows how accurate that is. The sultan of Johor (whichever one it was that compiled it) claimed that they were descended from this Srivijayan prince from Palembang -- supposedly the son of this Sang Sapurba guy. I think it's fairly accurate to state that Malays tend to adopt the name of an ancestor as their dynastic name, but there's no evidence that this was done with Sang Sapurba; the page given in that book reference doesn't actually say this was adopted as the name of the royal house, it just references its legendary connection to this person (maybe the editor has given the wrong page). It's quite likely the house didn't really have an official name. It's pretty common for Malay dynasties. "Srivijaya" or even "Palembang" can probably be justified with sources, but the "House of Sang Sapurba" (or "Wangsa Sang Sapurba"/"Dinasti Sang Sapurba") sounds somewhat ridiculous. I would probably just remove it from the infobox if you can't forge a consensus. Nightw 07:10, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for accessing the source, I could not. I never added it to the infobox, just reverted their change. From what I've seen and read, the Palembang prince is fairly well established as a person, and if they're fictional, they're an extremely well established one. I'd suggest "Malacca-Johor" as the house name, as that's what RoyalArk uses and it's a good descriptive name, but there's nothing good to link it to at the moment. Is RoyalArk a good basis for an article? CMD (talk) 15:11, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I've been too busy for the past few days to come online. Royal Ark is widely used through Wikipedia. However, I've never been able to find out whether its author has any credentials as a genealogist, and even if he did, it's a self-published website. It was decided on WP:RSN that it should not be used for BLPs. For history stuff though, you could get away with using it. It probably wouldn't hold up against more reliable sources, but in this case the editor hasn't given anything. Nightw 20:19, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

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Asia topic

As a participant of the discussion regarding naming change of the page List of airlines in Palestine, you might be interested in discussion Template talk:Asia topic#State of Palestine on changing the redirection target of "Palestine" from Palestinian territories to State of Palestine at Template:Asia topic. Thank you.Greyshark09 (talk) 08:49, 6 January 2013 (UTC)