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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by SineBot (talk | contribs) at 02:39, 9 February 2013 (Signing comment by Mirawithani - "File:Wolfe-NWM-Pearson-EMMM.jpg: correcting mis-statement by Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, just for the record"). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

January 7

File:Wolfe-NWM-Pearson-EMMM.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by WFinch (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Same situation as with File:Wolfe-NWM-Pearson-CP.jpg above. Fut.Perf. 07:26, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: This is not a random scene, the image is not meant to be decorative, and an explanation is present both in the article and the image summary. In the article, the image caption states that the scene from which the image is taken is available only in the international version of the episode. The international version of the episode is the subject of paragraphs four, five and six of the "Adaptations" section, where the image is presented. The scene is not present in any Region 1 DVD release and was not broadcast in U.S. and Canada (the A&E version), but it is present in broadcasts and DVD releases outside North America (Pearson version distributed by FremantleMedia Media). This is also explained in the image summary. Further, this image was deliberately captured to display subtitles from the Dutch Region 2 release, to illustrate the quote. Those who are familiar with the Rex Stout novella "Eeny Meeny Murder Mo" will recognize the line — "You're pie-eyed" — from chapter 2. The A&E version lacks this scene, which explains an otherwise confusing exchange in the scene immediately following. The international version of the episode has the full context. — WFinch (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Easily fails WP:NFCC#8. Text alone describes this scene, and a non-free image is entirely unmerited. — ξxplicit 01:12, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: The image validates the text and prevents arguments about different versions of a TV series being available in different countries. The "Downton Abbey" entry experienced bitter, interminable edit warring on the subject of whether the Season One that aired in the UK was cut for the US, which it was and could easily have been proven with a screenshot or two of the deleted scenes. Mirawithani (talk) 04:55, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Non-free images are never used for "proving" facts or for "preventing arguments" among Wikipedians. For that purpose, we use reliable sources. If people want to know whether there are different versions of this thing and what scenes were cut from them, find a reliable source that talks about it and cite it. If there are no reliable sources that talk about it, it doesn't belong in the article in the first place. Nothing in all of this is in need of a visual illustration to be understood. Fut.Perf. 07:57, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Paradigmatic NFCC#8 failure. Illustrating a scene added to fill out the running length in some markets adds exactly zero to the reader's understanding of the point that scenes were added to fill out the running length in some markets. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:53, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • You've got it exactly backwards. This scene was not "added to fill out the running length in some markets," it was cut from the original to accommodate the A&E network's commercials; it was also a scene critical to the understanding of a subsequent scene where the character drinking in the scene that was cut is shown inexplicably staggering to the front door of the house. Why you feel competent to weigh in when you are ignorant of the facts is beyond me, but never mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirawithani (talkcontribs) 02:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]