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Rules for Television info boxes

OK... so I've encountered an issue while editing Rugrats. I added the show's logo and a picture of the cast to the info box and changed the colors of the infobox to reflect those of the show. An editor reverted my edits. I don't understand why those customization are allowed on other TV show articles (i.e. Family Guy, The Simpsons, SpongeBob SquarePants) but not on the Rugrats article. I'm not a well experienced editor but I believe that my edits greatly benefit the article. I must say, I'm personally a very visual person and that's why I decided to begin contributing to Wikipedia, to visually enchance articles the best I can. And I understand it's hard with all the copyright restrictions, but I try my best to comprehend everything and follow the rules.

Now that I've rambled on for ages, my question is simply: Why are these types of edits OK on some articles but not others? CityMorgue (talk) 06:49, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Is there any way I can properly apply these types of edits to the article? CityMorgue (talk) 18:10, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I know it can be confusing sometimes! Different editors have different ideas about what sort of illustrations and customizations are appropriate; that's why you see other articles that seem to include the additions you're trying to make. Let's take 'em one by one: The picture of the main babies is nice, but the article already has a cast picture that shows everyone. Since these images are non-free (that is, copyrighted), we have to keep our use of them to a bare minimum. That means just one cast picture for most television programs. Since there's already a cast picture, it's better to have the logo in the infobox. As for the colors, there's still some disagreement over whether infobox headers should have customized colors or not; I think the consensus is leaning toward not, but I don't know for sure.

Have you tried engaging the editor who reverted your edit and asking why it was done? If you're polite and ask the question in a way that doesn't put the editor on the defensive, you're likely to get a polite response that points you to current discussions or guidelines that explain what he or she was thinking.

Hope this helps.

-- Powers ^T 22:27, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Google Doc URL

Hi! Is there a way I could link a Google Doc to a Wikipedia article I am creating and editing? Cmhardi1 (talk) 23:03, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to Teahouse! Which Google Doc article you want to link, where and how (read "which section" "References", "External links")? --Tito Dutta (contact) 23:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I have taken a look through the "External links" section and have managed to find an answer to this question. Much appreciated. Cmhardi1 (talk) 18:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

User Boxes

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Hi,

I was just wondering how you edit/add to your user boxes?

Thanks Zoe Xlucky charmx (talk) 21:59, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Zoe. There is an article here regarding creating the boxes for the right hand side http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Userboxes Brancoady (talk) 22:08, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. xlucky_charmx (talk) 13.36, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Using images from Facebook

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I was wondering if it would be possible, when creating an article about a well known scholar, to take a picture from their Facebook profile page (an image that they have made available to the public)? Would the fact they have made this image publicly available mean it could be added as a primary picture in the article?

Also, on the topic of Facebook, would it be worthwhile linking to the individuals social networking pages in the external links section of an article? Brancoady (talk) 21:46, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Brancoady! I'm not sure, but that would violate the external link policy. I've seen people use images from Flickr, but not Facebook. You should ask someone else because I'm not totally sure. JHUbal27•Talk•E-mail 21:56, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

I notice that several famous people, David Beckham for example, does have a link to his Facebook page in the external links section. I think in this instance however it is probably not going to be something people are interested in for the topic. Brancoady (talk) 22:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Just to elaborate: Just because an image is "avaliable" to the public doesn't mean it's "useable" by the public. In this case, the image is still copyrighted by the person who took it. Therefore, you can't use it on Wikipedia (sorry!). Putting in a few (1/2) links to the pages is sometimes acceptable, but only if the persons actually use it actively. gwickwire^talk_editing 21:59, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

I had presumed this was the case, but was not sure if by physically marking an image as available to all on Facebook was a forfeit of the copyright on the image to creative commons. Thanks for clarifying this is not the case. With that in mind, how do people usually go about sourcing images for wikipedia?Brancoady (talk) 22:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello Brancoady, welcome to the Teahouse. JHUba127 is correct. Facebook is not an acceptable external link per our policies and guidelines. To go a bit further, per WP:LINKSTOAVOID:

• Sites that require payment or registration to view the relevant content, unless the site itself is the subject of the article, or the link is a convenience link to a citation.
• Sites that are inaccessible to a substantial number of users, such as sites that only work with a specific browser or in a specific country (Facebook is actually blocked in a number of countries and as a registered site is not accesible to all)
• Social networking sites (such as Myspace and Facebook), chat or discussion forums/groups (such as Yahoo! Groups), Twitter feeds, Usenet newsgroups or e-mail lists
• Blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority. (This exception for blogs, etc., controlled by recognized authorities is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for people.) (Facebook is a personal webite)

As far as any image you find on Facebook, it must clearly state that it is either in the public domain or has a license comaptible with use on Wikipedia CC attribution, commercial use acceptable. If not you would have to use what is called "Fair Use". See Wikipedia:Non-free content for more details. The propblem is, if the subject is one that a free image could be available (as many public figures have) you would not be able to use fair use. I suggest looking through flicker for an image with a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license and upload it via Wikimedia Commons.--Amadscientist (talk) 22:08, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Excellent, managed to find an image via Flickr with the license you mentioned. Have added to the article! Brancoady (talk) 23:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Brancoady, sadly the image you found doesn't have a suitable licence as it has the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0) and the non-commercial part makes it ineligible for use either here or on Commons. NtheP (talk) 23:19, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, unfortunately that was not the right license. You could always contact one of the photographers on Flicker and request they release one image as "Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license". That has worked for me in the past. You could even ask the figure if they would allow one of their images to be released via an OTRS verification. Good luck and happy editing.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:24, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Ahhh, woops. I have emailed all of the people who have uploaded images of her to see if they will release with the correct license. Hopefully one of them will oblige! Thanks for your help Amadscientist & Nthep! Brancoady (talk) 23:45, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

I went to flickr to look and got distracted when I noticed someone uploaded one of my works without permission. Grrrrr.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:47, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Spoken with the owner of the image who has very kindly changed the license! http://www.flickr.com/photos/brokenthoughts/498904415/ Hopefully this will now be accepted! Brancoady (talk) 00:11, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Very good. Do you need this uploaded for you or are you able to do so yourself?--Amadscientist (talk) 00:17, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, however I had already uploaded it under the old license (before I knew it wasn't allowed, of course!). So I have left a message on the page where it was nominated for deletion http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Caroline_Haythornthwaite.jpg - is this the correct thing to do? Brancoady (talk) 00:20, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that's a good solution. I've closed the deletion request and marked the image as reviewed. The next step is to add some categories to the image description page on Commons! Let us know if you need some help; Commons doesn't have a Teahouse yet. =) Powers ^T 02:03, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Really? Uhm... I wonder if commons can benifit from establishing one?

Happy birthday Teahouse!

One year!

— Keithbob • Talk • 20:24, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

• Happy birthday! --Tito Dutta (contact) 22:06, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Why won't my URL format correctly?

Hello again! I am trying to update the information about last evening's Canadian Screen Awards, and I can't get one of my references, to the Toronto Star newspaper, to format properly. Can someone check it out? This will be a major article shortly, and I don't want to leave it looking bad. —Anne Delong (talk) 19:50, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Anne, fixed it for you but the url parameter needs the http:// in front of the www.etc to work correctly. NtheP (talk) 19:57, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have noticed that myself.—Anne Delong (talk) 20:02, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

What to do about a redirect

Dear editors: I would like to make a page about a bluegrass band called the Dixie Flyers. The band is notable enough to have an entry in the Canadian Encyclopedia of Music. The page name "Dixie Flyers" is currently redirected to Nashville Dixie Flyers, a minor hockey team from the 1960's in Nashville, Tennessee. Since there's no real page with the Dixie Flyers title, can I undo the redirect, create the page, and then create a disambiguation page instead? —Anne Delong (talk) 18:52, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, undo the redirect, but you don't need to create a disambiguation page if there are only two possibilities. Just create a hatnote at the top of each page, referring to the other. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:33, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Anne, if there are only two articles with similar titles then probably the use of Hatnotes is a better solution. When you expand Dixie Flyers into an article about the band add {{About|the bluegrass band|the ice hockey team from Nashville|Nashville Dixie Flyers}} to the top of the page to distinguish the two. You can add a similar hatnote to the top of Nashville Dixie Flyers to direct enquiries about the band to the right page. If you do expand the current redirect you need to check the existing links to that page {Special:WhatLinksHere/Dixie Flyers) to make sure the links are pointed to the correct page. NtheP (talk) 19:45, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do it soon. —Anne Delong (talk) 19:51, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

I created the article User:Anne Delong/Dixie Flyers in my user space, but I was unable to move it to Dixie Flyers. I deleted the redirect, but it still didn't work. I read the section on page moves and added a db-move tag to the page. What happens now? —Anne Delong (talk) 04:27, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

The redirect is up for speedy deletion per your request, and it should be processed by an administrator soon. I am not an administrator, otherwise I would do it for you, Anne. I commend you for all your recent work to improve this encyclopedia. Well done! Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:46, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Quaestia

I've noticed that many pages on Ancient Roman senators/notables (example: Gaius Fufius Geminus (suffect consul 2 BC)) link to books on the Quaestia website, where you have to pay to read/access. Is it possible that Quaestia might be using Wikipedia as a way of directing potential customers to their online library? Would it be better to remove the links to the Quaestia site, or would that weakened the article (since those links are the sources)? Fantini (talk) 18:47, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Fantini, welcome to the Teahouse. No, Questia aren't directing potential customers to their site. Questia are one of a number of organisations that offer a number of free subscriptions to their resources for Wikipedia editors (see Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library), this enables editors to have access to resources that otherwise would be quite costly. The net effect of this is that the quality of articles is improved rather than be restrained by lack of access. That other editors such as you and I do not have access to these online articles directly is not the point, there are numerous other sources used to verify articles, for example Times Newspapers, that live behind paywalls. The object is that sources that can be verified are provided should someone have the inclination and/or money to check. NtheP (talk) 19:17, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

You might find WP:Resource exchange of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 23:14, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Redirection

I'm creating an article, I was wondering about redirection of a page. for example the current page is Joe Blogs, however if i just search for it as joe bloggs the page doesn't register. Rachel L Fisher (talk) 18:15, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Rachel, welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia searches aren't case specific so Joe Bloggs should show if you typed joe bloggs. However spelling does matter, so you can create redirects from plausible alternative spellings like Joe Blogs to redirect to Joe Bloggs. NtheP (talk) 18:27, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

thanks for that. much appreciated. what code/tags do I use for a redirection? Rachel L Fisher (talk) 18:42, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Make a new page with whatever you want to redirect from. Insert the following code: #REDIRECT [[Joe Blogs]] Now it should work :) — nerdfighter 18:46, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hidden entries in template

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For some reasons, few entries of this template Template:Swami Vivekananda are not being displayed. To see this, go to edit mode and see |group4=Works and philosophy. There are 7-8 entries, but, in template, only 4 are being displayed. Any idea? --Tito Dutta (contact) 15:17, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Tito! There was a stray set of double brackets ("]]") in that line, which was causing the rest of the list to not get rendered. Should be fixed now. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 15:23, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

• Super excellent observation! --Tito Dutta (contact) 15:27, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Comments on an article

I am seeking some feedback regarding an article I have contributed to as part of a University assignment [1].

The article has been submitted for review, and me moved it as suggested to the "Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation" section, however the review process is rather backlogged at the moment, so would like some feedback from fellow Wikipedians.

I placed a similar question early on in the articles creation, with feedback being that there wasn't enough references, which we have now fixed.

Any feedback is most welcome. Nickjhanson (talk) 13:22, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Voceditenore has written a careful comment on the page itself, at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Caroline Haythornthwaite. It still needs a lot of work. StarryGrandma (talk) 18:46, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

The feedback given seems really useful. However, I am not sure about voceditenores comments regarding using 'currently' with regard to where she 'currently' works. Almost every footballers page has 'currently plays for' so I dont see why 'currently works for' is any different? Can anybody shed any light on this? Brancoady (talk) 21:41, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

See WP:DATED. Words like "currently" should be avoided because they can date themselves quickly. Instead, a phrase like "As of March 2013, she worked at..." should be used. There's no indication regarding the time frame for "currently". If an article was written 10 years ago saying "Currently, Tony Blair is PM," well, it was correct when it was written, but not now. --Geniac (talk) 03:14, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I suppose this is where regularly checking and updating pages is key; probably why its seen as acceptable for famous footballers pages! Thanks. Brancoady (talk) 02:40, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Getting information

Hello, I am currently working with some people on creating an article about a person. I was just wondering how much of the factual information I should rephrase, or can I directly use the information, given I reference it? Thanks, Elir9 (talk) 12:02, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Elir9. Use your own words. "Facts and ideas cannot be protected by copyright, but creative expression is protected." See See creative expression for more detail. Write your article in your own words, your own "creative expression." You should still credit the source of the factual information, usually at the end of a paragraph or section. You can use short quotes from sources either enclosed in quotation marks or in a blockquote with the source cited immediately after the quoted text. You must avoid violating copyright and should avoid plagiarism. Those links lead to dozens of other pages of policy, procedure and practice in Wikipedia but don't be overly concerned about reading all of them now. If you continue to work in Wikipedia, you will learn more as you go along. Hope this helps. If you have a more specific question, come back again. Take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 13:01, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, it makes things clearer!Elir9 (talk) 13:21, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Using sandbox as a group

I am new to Wikipedia and I am working in a group to create an article, we have been advised to use sandbox as a was to create a draft before submitting an article, is there a way we can all use one of our sandboxes to add information and edit and if so how would I link my sandbox to the rest of the group? Thanks Staceysavage1991 (talk) 11:43, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

That's very easy. You could choose anyone from your group and use that person's sandbox. For example, if it is User:Staceysavage1991 then just type in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Staceysavage1991/sandbox in to the address bar. Or the user who's sandbox is chosen might provide a link to other users on their talk page. --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 11:55, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Stacey. Welcome to the Teahouse and the world of Wikipedia. I'm guessing that you and others noticed that {{my sandbox}} takes everyone to their own sandbox, not to yours. You or any of your collaborators can create a sandbox and provide the address. Just type in the address. For example, right-click on User:Staceysavage1991/Sandbox and open it in a new page. Type anything in the blank page and save it. Then reload this page and you'll see that the redlink turned blue because it now exists. Once your sandbox exists, you can add to it. For example, User:Staceysavage1991/Sandbox/ArticleIdeas and User:Staceysavage1991/Sandbox/DraftArticle. Take a look at my sandbox as an example. Once created, you and your collaborators can all put a link to the sandbox on their userpage like [[User:Staceysavage1991/Sandbox/article_name|Draft Article]]. Then they can just click on the blue "Draft Article" and go straight to the draft. Everyone will be able to edit the draft. Hope this helps, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 12:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Ah, you started! To make the link to your draft, have your collaborators copy-and-paste [[User:Staceysavage1991/sandbox|'''-Mark Griffiths draft''']] onto their user or talk page. It'll look like this: -Mark Griffiths draft and clicking on it will go to the draft. Take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 12:20, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for all the feedback! Really helpfull Staceysavage1991 (talk) 13:18, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Adding audio to an article

Hi, i'm new to Wikipedia. I just wanted to know how one would go about adding an embedded media player onto an article that would play a short .mp3 audio track? Mogzilla91 (talk) 10:54, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Mogzilla91; welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia doesn't support MP3 formatted recording; you would need to upload the file as an Ogg Vorbis file for it to be usable here. If you are able to convert the file to .ogg, then you can upload it using the "Upload file" link in your Toolbox menu (←over there); just follow the step-by-step instructions. Once uploaded, you can use the file in an article using the {{listen}} template: add the code {{listen|filename=pagename of your file, including .ogg suffix|title=title of your file|description=description of the audio}} and replace the italic text appropriately. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:01, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Mogzilla91 (talk) 12:57, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Question about referencing

Hi as stated a lot recently on Teahouse I am engaging in a project for a Psychology of Internet behaviour course. If you look at my groups sandbox user:saoul91/sandbox my question is in my contribution on "human animal bonds" should the referencing method be the same as the rest of the article and if so then how do I reference in that same style? Liberum Conscientia (talk) 10:54, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Liberum Conscientia. You've currently formatted your citations as external links, which, as you've surmised, isn't right - you need to use the citation template, as your fellow students have done. This short essay will help you to do so; it's pretty straightforward. Best of luck, Yunshui 雲‍水 11:08, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Copyright issue

Dear editors: I was reading the article about Stonehenge, and I noticed a reference that seemed to be a blog[2]. When I looked at the blog entry, it said the source was the National Museum of Wales. I realized that the article had been copied from this press release: [3]]. Should this entry be removed? No copyright material has been added to Wikipedia. Are press releases intended to be copied and so okay? The paragraph in Wikipedia has another source anyway. —Anne Delong (talk) 10:45, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Anne, in theory, press releases probably are intended to be copied, although they cannot be copied here as the original page says quite clearly © the National Museum of Wales. But since, the material isn't copied to the WP article itself, I'd simply remove the blog source (almost unvariably unsuitable as a source) and directly reference it to the official press release. Or, just leave the non-blog source if that one's sufficient. Voceditenore (talk) 10:59, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I've done that. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:53, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Article For Education Keeps Getting Deleted

Hi guys, i was wondering if anyone would be able to help as i have a situation where a particular user keeps deleting an article i am creating for education purposes with a group of individuals. We are using an education banner in the code text but nevertheless this user keeps on deleting our page. We are writing about the Psychology of Internet Behaviour if that makes any difference. Any help would be appreciated.

Many Thanks!

(Lewishiley (talk) 10:12, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

I can not find any deletion notification in your talk page. Could you provide the list of affected articles? --Tito Dutta (contact) 10:13, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

He's referring to Laura Widyanto, an article which has been repeatedly recreated with the content "more to come". Since we don't host placeholder articles, I've (repeatedly) advised the page creator, User:Seth Fasnacht-Conn to use his sandbox to construct the page. Yunshui 雲‍水 10:25, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello. There is no article by the title Psychology of Internet Behaviour or any other close name. I have even checked the deletion log for any article by that name but there is no deleted article by that name. This page shows that only 1 of your edits have been deleted. Furthermore I don't think admins will be deleting pages without any reason. Could you please be more specific in your question. --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 10:28, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

FWIW, I've thrown up a basic stub at the page in question, to help these two students get underway. There are probable notability issues (I can find very little on the professor in question), so it may not meet the inclusion requirements in any case, but at least there's something there now. Yunshui 雲‍水 10:36, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Referencing guidelines

When referencing an article sourced from the internet, what would be the preferred referencing guidelines to use on a wikipage? Daniel.Frozenwind (talk) 09:59, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to Teahouse! You'll get help from here Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. --Tito Dutta (contact) 10:01, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, much appreciated! Daniel.Frozenwind (talk) 10:04, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

List of deceased admins!

Do we have a list of deceased admins somewhere? --Tito Dutta (contact) 09:57, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Welcome! You may be looking for Wikipedia:Missing Wikipedians or Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians. Cheers --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 10:01, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for replies. 1) I know about "Copying within Wikipedia", I don't need to give any attribution when I am copying my own post (in this case my question somehow got posted at the bottom of the page, so, copied it to top). 2) No, I am not looking for those two lists, I have been editing those two articles. The complex form of the same question is: as far as I know, as token of honour, deceased admins' admin flags are not removed. I am interested to learn, do they keep any list, so that those deceased admins' names are not included in "inactive admins list"? --Tito Dutta (contact) 10:06, 4 March 2013 (UTC) Strikethrough one portion --Tito Dutta (contact) 10:07, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Can I directly quote from other Wikipedia articles?

I want to create a new article for an educational assignment and as well as other references and resources, can I quote from other related articles found on Wikipedia? Leanne Morgan (talk) 09:44, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

First of all, welcome to Wikipedia and the Teahouse! To answer your question, you could use other articles as sources. But not directly. This is how you do it. When you come across something you want from another article you could use it's citation and then write what you want in your article. Then you could cite the excerpt with the same reference in your article. Hope I have answered your question. Happy editing! --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 09:53, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

For more information see this page. --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 09:58, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Brilliant, thanks for your help! Leanne Morgan (talk) 10:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, I always wondered about that as well.Penguin2006 (talk) 13:02, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Content edit

Can text be copy and pasted from outside sources aslong as it is referenced? Rachel L Fisher (talk) 09:43, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia and the Teahouse. The answer for your question is yes. As long as the license is compatible with Wikipedia you could use it. But be aware that you cannot use the exact text from sources which are copyrighted. Instead you could just change the text and then use it as a reference. Once again, welcome to Wikipedia and we hope that you will help Wikipedia a better encyclopedia. --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 10:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rachel, just to clarify, there are relatively few types of sources that are free to copy. These are: text from works originally published before January 1923, text from works published by the US government, text from works (including websites) which carry an explicit statement releasing them into the public domain or explicitly bearing a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license. But not all Creative Commons licenses are suitable. If they specify no alteration of the text or no commercial use, the material can't be used here. Also, many non-US governments do not allow commercial use or do not allow copyring at all. If you are in any doubt about the text you want to use and its licensing, you can ask advice at Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems. It's OK to quote a sentence or two from a non-free copyright source, but it must be clearly marked as a quotation and attributed to its source with an inline citation. Hope that helps. Voceditenore (talk) 10:31, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

is it possible to delete a "review waiting" box?

Hello, I'd like to delete the "review waiting" box from my User-sandbox and thus be able to continue editing further my article-to-be - to continue on a "clean table = without this yellow info-box. Is it possible? This would remove the text from the review-queue. Or is there another way to do it? Marjarau (talk) 17:29, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Marjarau, welcome to the Teahouse. You can just delete the {{AFC Submission}} templates and resubmit when you are ready or you can edit it while it's still waiting for review. There is nothing that says that the version reviewed has to be the same as the version when you added it to the review queue. NtheP (talk) 18:24, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Marjarau. I looked at your draft article on Ilona Harima. From my Google search, she is notable and deserving of an article in en.Wikipedia. I also saw that at least some Finnish sources provide summaries in English. I reorganized your draft article so it is more like other en.Wikipedia articles. If you prefer to do the work yourself, revert my edits. Otherwise, I would enjoy spending some time collaborating. More on your talk page. Take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 18:55, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, DocTree - thanks for the clarifications, I'd be glad for collaboration. I succeeded in erasing the review waiting box.

External link is still to be done. I hope the sources-section is acceptable. The one reference is the only one in wiki with a good English summary. All other texts are in Finnish only.Thanks, Marjarau (talk) 19:29, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello DocTree, thanks for the answer on March 4th. Now I have added further reading and external link. And erased sculptor from infobox. Ilona Harima (my mother) made too few sculptures to be noted here. I hope the general reference-level is enough to this short article. I am a biologist-librarian, retired. I went through kindergarten and middle-classes in the English School run by American nuns, here in Helsinki. Am trying my best to keep up my English! Marjarau (talk) 08:00, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Just a remark about references. Sources used in English Wikipedia articles do not need to be in English, you are welcome to use Finnish (or any other language) sources here as references. Roger (talk) 11:55, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

How to indicate an article has been copy edited or do I

I have finished somewhere about a dozen edits so far, some selected from the urgent list. I am wondering if I need or can, or supposed to do anything to indicate that that particular article has been copy edited and could possibly be removed from the urgent copy edit list?Montykillies (talk) 09:18, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, MontyKillies. Welcome to Wikipedia and the Teahouse. Are you working on the list on the Guild of Copy Editors (GOCE) Request page? The procedure recommended by the Guild is:

- Select an article to edit from the copyedit requested list.

-Add {{working}}  Working or {{doing}} Doing... indented with a colon under request to inform others (so you don't end up with two editors working at the same time and ending up with a conflict). SingSign with four tildes.

- Edit the article. When you're finished:

- Add {{GOCE|user=UserName|date=date completed}} at the bottom of the talk page of the article. Put your username and the date in so it looks like:

- Go back to the GoCE list to change the working or doing template to {{done}}  Done and sign it with four tildes again to show the date and time.

You should sign up for the March backlog elimination drive. I admire those with the skills to be good copy editors. Alas, I'm great at stating facts concisely and accurately but my prose is rarely described as smooth or flowing. Take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 15:27, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Guys, I am selecting articles from the March list now, and the last few I have edited have been from the list. I have not been marking them with the doing or editing tag while doing them as I have been doing the edit all in one sitting and thought the chances of another editor doing the same article at the same time were small. I was not aware of the update action on the GOCE page. I will see if I can get that done on the articles I have finished editing. However, I do not know how to sign up for the March backlog elimination drive. I have just been doing it.Thanks for the info. I am sure I will be back many times for more help!Montykillies (talk) 22:35, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi again guys (and girls!). I have finally got the issues resolved with help (thanks Doctree!) and some snooping on my own. I am sure there will be many more bumps in the road and I appreciate the willingness of all to help. Thankfully I can remove my stupid cap for the time being!!Montykillies (talk) 17:31, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia visited link's color : needs to be changed

Hi!

I noticed that the current color for visited links makes visited links hard to spot after being visited. I strongly recommend that visited links stay the SAME color as unvisited links. (I'm not even color blind)

I'm not sure it's something that can be changed easily...

Also, talking about links, I would also like to suggest that:

-Links color be change to a more visible and contrasting color. It can be hard to distinguish a link from plain text, especially on aging or older LCD monitors (or users).

-Hovered links could also change color, no just be underlined. It would provide a stronger visual "haptic" feedback.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirusdark (talk • contribs) 08:07, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this is determined by your browser or computer's settings. Try looking there - hope this helps. Mono 23:57, 4 March 2013 (UTC)