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I ll leave quotes and links here,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya

There is a site critical of his claim, but recognizes the fact he made the claim. http://searchlight.iwarp.com/articles/PseudoBuddhism_and_Scientology.htm

Another example page and quotes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buddha_claimants

Also of note http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahāsattva These eight bodhisattvas, are the subject of the most indirect claims to Bodhisattvahood. A direct claim to being a bodhisattva would be examples like Asanga, Vasubandhu, Nagarjuna, Ashvaghosa, etc. Indirect claimants are people who claim to be emanations, incarnations, manifestations, etc. of either mythological bodhisattvas or direct bodhisattva claimants. Over time, indirect claimants have been seen as bodhisattvas in their own right over time, despite not technically claiming that. Like shown later, Budai is the best well known indirect Bodhisattva claimant despite being considered as Bodhisattva or a Buddha in his own right over time. Even though there are Buddhists of varying opinions with regards to the status of each claimant, there is a rare almost universal rejection of the claims of Ram Bahadur Bojmon that is unseen regarding any other claimants, because he claimed to be the incarnation, manifestation, emanation, of a being who entered Parinnirvana. sorry this message is so long!

Since his death, the Chinese monk Budai (Hotei) has been popularly regarded as an incarnation of the bodhisattva Maitreya. His depiction as the Laughing Buddha continues to be very popular in East Asian culture.[dubious – discuss] While a number of persons have proclaimed themselves to be Maitreya over the years following the Buddha’s parinirvana, none have been officially recognized by the sangha and Buddhists. A particular difficulty faced by any would-be claimant to Maitreya's title is the fact that the Buddha is considered to have made a number of fairly specific predictions regarding the circumstances that would occur prior to Maitreya's coming; such as that the teachings of the Buddha would be completely forgotten, and all of the remaining relics of Sakyamuni Buddha would be gathered in Bodh Gaya and cremated.[dubious – discuss] The following list is just a small selection of those people who claimed or claim to be the incarnation of Maitreya. Many have either used the Maitreya incarnation claim to form a new Buddhist sect or have used the name of Maitreya to form a new religious movement or cult. Gung Ye, a Korean warlord and king of short-lived state of Taebong during the 10th century, claimed himself as living incarnation of Maitreya and ordered his subjects to worship him. His claim was widely rejected by most Buddhist monks and later he was dethroned and killed by his own servants. In 613 the monk Xiang Haiming claimed himself Maitreya and adopted imperial title.[26] In 690 Empress Wu inaugurated the Second Zhou dynasty, proclaimed herself an incarnation of the future Buddha Maitreya, and made Luoyang the "holy capital." In 693 she replaced the compulsory Dao De Jing in the curriculum temporarily with her own Rules for Officials.[27] Lu Zhong Yi, the 17th patriarch of I-Kuan Tao, claimed to be an incarnation of Maitreya. L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the belief systems Dianetics and Scientology, suggested he was "Metteya" (Maitreya) in the 1955 poem Hymn of Asia. Numerous editors and followers of Hubbard claim that in the book's preface, specific physical characteristics said to be outlined—in unnamed Sanskrit sources—as properties of the coming Maitreya; properties which Hubbard's appearance supposedly aligned with. Adi Da was suggested by his devotees to be Maitreya: "an All-Surpassing God-Man yet to come -- a final Avatar, the ultimate Messiah, a consumate Prophet or Enlightened Sage, a Spiritual Deliverer who will appear in the 'late-time', the 'dark' epoch when humanity is lost, apparently cut off from Wisdom, Truth and God. Buddhists call that Expected One 'Maitreya'." [28] Raël's Maitreya claims [1] center on the content of the Agama Sutra (Japanese: Agon Sutra),[29] supposedly a very ancient text written by Buddha himself, but which has been deemphasized or forgotten by the majority of Buddhist cultures.[30] Raël has claimed directly to people attending Asia Raëlian Church seminars, that someone born in France, a country which is often symbolized by the cock (or rooster), west of the Orient, meets the criteria of the Maitreya. Rael himself claims to be this individual.[31]

The concept of Maitreya was elaborated within Theosophy during the last few decades of the 19th century. However the Theosophical Maitreya was explained, and developed, differently than the original Buddhist concept. In Theosophical texts Maitreya has multiple aspects signifying not just the future Buddha, but similar concepts from other religious or spiritual traditions.[17] In early 20th century, leading Theosophists became convinced that an appearance of the Maitreya as a so-called World Teacher was imminent. A South Indian boy, Jiddu Krishnamurti, was thought to be destined as the "vehicle" of the soon-to-manifest Maitreya; however the manifestation did not happen as predicted, and did not fulfil Theosophists' expectations.[18] Since the growth of the Theosophical movement in the 19th century, and influenced by Theosophy's articulations on the Maitreya, non-Buddhist religious and spiritual movements have adopted and reinterpreted the concept in their doctrines. Share International, which equates Maitreya with the prophesied figures of multiple religious traditions, claims that he is already present in the world, but is preparing to make an open declaration of his presence in the near future. They claim that he is here to inspire mankind to create a new era based on sharing and justice.[19] In the beginning of the 1930s, the Ascended Master Teachings placed Maitreya in the "Office of World Teacher" until 1956, when he was described as moving on to the "Office of Planetary Buddha" and "Cosmic Christ" in their concept of a Spiritual Hierarchy. Some Muslim scholars who studied Buddhist texts believe that Maitreya is "Rahmatu lil-'alameen" (Mercy for The Worlds), which is the name for the prophet Muhammad as it is said in the Qur'an.[20] According to the research on the book Antim Buddha - Maitreya scholars have surmised that Maitreya Buddha is Muhammad.[21] After examining the Buddhist texts researchers concluded that Muhammad had been the last and final awakened Buddha to come into existence long after the current teachings.[22] The 19th century, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, is believed in by the members of the Ahmadiyya Community (the faith he brought) as fulfilling expectations regarding the Maitreya Buddha.[23] Bahá'ís believe that Bahá'u'lláh is the fulfillment of the prophecy of appearance of Maitreya.[24][25] Bahá'ís believe that the prophecy that Maitreya will usher in a new society of tolerance and love has been fulfilled by Bahá'u'lláh's teachings on world peace.[24] 70.194.84.171 (talk) 19:47, 19 January 2013 (UTC) also revert the page yourself if your mind has been changed.[reply]

I agree, Budai is well-accepted within Buddhist tradition as a bodhisattva. I also agree that L. Ron Hubbard refers to himself as Maitreya in Hymn of Asia. What I don't see is any corroboration by Buddhists that he is regarded as a bodhisattva. We would need a reliable source for this (and by the way, Wikipedia is not regarded as a reliable secondary source). We would need a Buddhist source. Sunray (talk) 20:43, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for letting me know why you deleted my edit to Cam Newton's page. I added that because he is, in fact, known for his smile. Football commentators and analysts often mention it, and I saw no reference to it on his page so I thought that it should be mentioned. I understand if you disagree but I, and I think many others, believe that it is one of his defining features. -FJ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.237.104 (talk) 21:22, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And thank you for getting back to me. It would be great if you could find a reference for that info from a reliable source. WP:CITE explains how to format references, or you could just give me the link and I would be happy to do it. The other thing I would like to point out has to do with style. Your comment sounded pretty casual. So you might want to take a look at WP:TONE. Happy editing! Sunray (talk) 01:35, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio

Hello. On this edit, you have restored lots of copyrighted material. Please undo your edit or clean up the copyvios. Thanks. 4nn1l2 (talk) 14:40, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for pointing that out. You are quite right that the article currently has copyvios. Your edit was identified by STiki, because it blanked much of the article. For example, you eliminated the Infobox and other sections. I regret that I didn't follow up on your edit summary (I just saw the blanking). So I will now go through the article, mark, and then eliminate, the copyright violations. Would you be willing to assist with this? Sunray (talk) 20:43, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Amqui (talk) 02:27, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for you comment on my talk page. I reverted an inappropriate edit on Pokémon X and Y, and you reverted my revert. Having checked my revert I still believe that I was correct, and am just replying to let you know. As someone who does some AV on wikipedia I thank you for your efforts in this matter. Martin451 (talk) 23:29, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right. I'm glad that you did revert that. The only thing I can think of is that StiKi showed me the same edit that you reverted. As you had already reverted it, I wound up reverting you. There is also the chance that I just wasn't paying close enough attention :) That happens (more often late at night), but I'm guessing we may have detected a bug in StiKi. I will keep an eye on it. Sunray (talk) 00:21, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 Done Sunray (talk) 00:22, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Change to the Return to the Pit page.

I wasn't sure how to add a cite. But i would like this to be added so people can know that the site isn't what they think it is.

http://returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=70433

There is my cite to insure there is evidence of bullying on this webpage. How do i get this change to stay?

Basically let people know that when you go to this site, if your not part of their group, they will talk trash and bully you around. I would like to let people know before they go to the site. Even though i'm sure most won't read this before they do, some might. I had multiple people send me messages talking about how they were treated the same way.

If you could add this in somewhere i would appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.54.221 (talk) 05:45, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The problem I see is that the source you want to use does not qualify as a reliable source. If you take a look at WP:IRS you should see what I mean. Forums and blogs are not acceptable as sources. As far as the bullying goes: Wikipedia is not a manual, advice column (legal, medical or otherwise) or suggestion box. I'm sure most people who've been online for awhile will realize that they do not have to put up with online bullying. Simply disengaging, changing passwords (if necessary), and reporting them to their service provider would be some of the options I can think of. Sunray (talk) 06:18, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So what should i do if the owner of the site condones all the rudeness? I already asked him to take down the pictures of my gf and other friends they stole from my facebook, he just replied with more bullying. I have been looking this stuff up and i have no idea what to do. Is there anything i can do about them stealing pictures and messing with them, then putting them up without my permission? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.54.221 (talk) 06:35, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It seems unlikely that the website owner is also the hosting provider. But in any case, I can't really answer your questions, except to say that if you made the pics public, there probably isn't much that can be done unless a crime was committed. I try not to put anything on the web that I wouldn't want to see on the front page of a newspaper. What else can I tell you? Bullying sucks; there are some weird people out there. But I'm sure you knew that already :) Sunray (talk) 07:11, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well thanks anyways. I heard it WAS illegal to take someones picture and put negative things on it and put it up without your permission. Also these are just pictures of me and my friend hanging out, i didn't think anyone would steal these. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.54.221 (talk) 07:22, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Excuse me

Why do you keep taking down my edits hun? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daz21 (talkcontribs) 07:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The edits are not constructive (to put it mildly). You have received two warnings about this. Is my note on your talk page unclear? Sunray (talk) 20:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Krohn Page

Dear Sunray, Just an FYI: I am actually Jonathan Krohn...I've been trying to update and edit the page because there are a number of inaccuracies and so forth for awhile, but found it kind of arrogant to edit your own Wiki page. But I finally sucked it up because it was getting insanely annoying having to have to explain to people I meet who then proceed to look up the article for background on me how old and inaccurate aspects of the article are. I have no idea who created or has been editing it, but there are lots of problems with it I'd like to correct. (Seeing as you are an established part of the wiki community I'd be more than happy to work with you on this.) Sincerely, Jonathan Krohn (If you don't believe that I'm actually Jonathan I would be more than willing to prove this is actually me.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZombieTwin (talkcontribs) 06:10, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. Normally removal of large amounts of text from articles is problematic unless there has been some discussion about it and agreement on the talk page. Much of the material you removed was sourced, so I would need to know more about your concerns. Generally subjects are discouraged from editing articles about themselves. However, if you think that there are inaccuracies, by all means, point them out to me. Sunray (talk) 07:49, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well for starters, the first book I wrote was not written for The Classical School. That is a lie and misconception and I have no idea where that came from.

I am not active in the Baptist Church. Period.

I did not give a speech called "Conservative Victories Across America." That was the name of the panel I was on.

I gave up playing the cello when I was 11.

There are some more, but I think the larger point I was trying to make by cutting it down was that there is just so much extraneous material that a ton of inaccuracies (such as the ones above) slip in. I realize that you guys don't want subjects editing their articles and I didn't want to. But until I edited part of it wiki still had my profession listed as "pundit," my inspirations as Bennett, Goldwater, and Reagan, and a really old picture of me. And let's not forget there wasn't a single mention of anything I'd seriously done with my life. The whole CPAC incident is such a minor issue, I have no idea why it's focused on for FIVE PARAGRAPHS. So long as it's sourced I think the vast majority of extraneous information can be found from a much simpler article that is sourced. --Jon — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZombieTwin (talkcontribs) 13:22, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Who accually invented scotch tape.

How was my post not constructive. It was the truth. We have even found the document from when he invented it. I dont know why but now everyone says it was richard drew.