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Visual styles?

Is it XP or Vista, or both, that have 4 visual styles?

Please provide a citation to support this edit. Thank you. 71.252.113.85 (talk) 16:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That user has been warned. There is no rationale for something like that.Jasper Deng (talk) 00:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vista is Theme-Wise the very same as Win7 :

Win2000like Classic and Vista (7) Basic Look on all Hardware available, even in low-res VGA mode or in virtual pcs.

Aero is offered on DX9 WDDM Cards on all editions minus Starter. Aero Transparency not in HomeBasic ( = Opaque Aero ).

94.220.86.0 (talk) 23:19, 21 February 2011 (UTC) Alex Cohen.[reply]

Extended Support end date and edit warring.

There has been a couple of edit wars between a couple of individuals stating that all editions of Windows Vista would be supported until 4 November 2017.

Realistically, that is NOT the case. Mainstream Support for Windows Vista ends on 10 April 2012, in which consumer versions will transition to a non-supported status. Windows Vista Business and Windows Vista Enterprise will be supported until 11 April 2017.

Please consider either editing or commenting out the line that reads "Extended support until 4 November 2017" or have the owners semi-protect this article in question to prevent any further edit warring.

Thank you for your concern. 74.42.191.30 (talk) 23:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

--> Microsoft could release a vista SP3 and thus bump the EOL date 2 years further which would give Home Users until 2014 and Business Users until 2019.

It is unbelievable that they support XP for home users 2 years longer then vista. ( xp home/pro/media/tablet = 2014 , vista home,ultimate = 2012 ) - So they have to put out something . Even Microsoft's Vista Information page says that it is no longer sold, but it is STILL SUPPORTED ( seen yesterday ) .

78.50.87.15 (talk) 16:22, 15 February 2012 (UTC) German User[reply]

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You may add that this is the first product that they have collaborated with other companies to create it (e.g. Oberon Games worked on Windows Games). Galzigler (talk) 14:45, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not true. Has been done in older vesions as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.130.103.92 (talk) 14:52, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

207.224.64.82 (talk) 00:01, 25 March 2013 (UTC)Not sure where to put this, however the article's information about Vista adoption appears to be strangely biased. Now in 2013, as XP is approaching its SECOND end of life date, it still far outstrips Vista use. XP has only recently been overtaken by Windows 7 in desktop use, and Vista is a very small 5.17% of the market. Corporate users never widely adopted vista , and forced Microsoft to extend the support date for XP, as well as forced Microsoft to allow Vista licences to be converted back to XP. I think the portrayal in this article does not reflect the fact that corporate users were not just less satisfied with Vista- the vast majority completely skipped Vista and waited until Windows 7 was clearly worth adopting. Here are some stats from 2013-13-24 : Windows 7 44.55%, Windows XP 38.99%, Windows Vista 5.17%, and Windows 8 2.67% (the rest include OS X and "other" but as this article was comparing Windows versions ...) At no time has Vista come close to the level XP of adoption, even after 2 service packs. Implying that Vista has gotten a bad rap unfairly seems subjective. statistics on adoption are from:[reply]

<http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0>        207.224.64.82 (talk) 00:01, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

downgrading from Vista to XP- Microsoft no longer has online info about this, just about allowing you to "downgrade" windows 8 to Windows 7: <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9040318/FAQ_Giving_up_on_Vista_Here_s_how_to_downgrade_to_XP>

microsoft had an option for volume users to "downgrade" from Windows 7 to XP as well:

<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-will-allow-windows-7-users-to-downgrade-to-xp/2456> 207.224.64.82 (talk) 00:21, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Critism about Costs is nothing special in regards to Windows Vista

The article stated that when Vista was released some users thought Windows Vista would be too expensive. However, I don't think this is valid a critique point especially with regards to Windows Vista. Instead it is the result of economic thinking on side of the producer of a product, which you do not only find with Windows Vista, but which you in fact find in many sectors of economy. It is quite usual to introduce a product with a rather high price to get an "additional fee" from the early adopters and then to drop the price to something the majority thinks is reasonable so that then this majority has a bigger appeal of buying the product. It may be true that this has also been done in case of Windows Vista, but this is a general phenomenon which belongs to economic theory (and is discussed there). --88.130.85.92 (talk) 12:25, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article is not criticizing Vista in this regard. It is reporting on criticism that appeared in the press (and it has references to prove that). This was a significant aspect of the reaction to Windows Vista and so should be retained. Please note that existing content is assumed to enjoy consensus until a new consensus is reached. There is no consensus for this change, so I am restoring the section, and the section should not be deleted again unless consensus is reached to delete it. Jeh (talk) 05:00, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Windows Vista and 7 Package Box

I think some information about the packaging of original discs of Windowsshould be added, including: different editions, how to open it and criticism about the Vista version of the box, which was later changed in Windows 7 into a more DVD-like box. Galzigler (talk) 23:16, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]