User talk:This, that and the other

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Local uploading

Hi, I reverted this edit. All free images should be uploaded to Commons, also user page images. We even have a template for that, see Commons:Template:User page image. Multichill (talk) 12:08, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

OK. I can understand that. I was (quite obviously) under the impression that personal images should remain locally... so thanks for letting me know. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Dapili

The thing that concerned me was that Jojofi kept coming back and doing the same thing over and over again at completely unpredictable intervals, and a request was posted to his or her talk page to stop doing it but it kept happening anyway. It's also important to realize that indefinite protection isn't permanent protection; except in a few rare really severe cases, the protection will always be taken back off within a couple of months anyway. Bearcat (talk) 18:03, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Source code of FtCG

Is it possible to update it to 1.0.2? Bulwersator (talk) 12:50, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Sure is; will do. I'll try to remember to update it more regularly. — This, that, and the other (talk) 00:10, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I have certain small ideas to increase speed of my description processing. Bulwersator (talk) 06:03, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

When writing FtCG, I certainly didn't have speed at the forefront of my mind - it's pretty easy to code sloppily in C#! If you manage to make any improvements, please let me know and I would be happy to incorporate them. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:36, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

I tried to change something using Visual C# 2010 Express (on Win7) but unfortunately generated exe (from unmodified code) crashes with "You must provide a request body if you set ContentLength>0 or SendChunked==true". So - What is your IDE? Bulwersator (talk) 06:49, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

I use Visual C# Express 2008. In my view VS 2010 is worse than 2008. But I do have C# Express 2010 installed on another system, so I will test it there and report back to you. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:55, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

So I will try 2008 version Bulwersator (talk) 07:03, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I've got it... You need to change the Target Framework to .NET 2.0. This is done via Project menu > ForTheCommonGood Properties... (last item) > Application tab > Target Framework dropdown. (I'm exploiting a loophole in 2.0 to work around another apparent bug in 2.0... the joys of .NET!) — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:04, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Bulwersator (talk) 07:11, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

It is not working with version 1.3 Bulwersator (talk) 17:50, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Also in Visual C# 2008 i received "Error 1 'GetApiUri': cannot declare instance members in a static class C:\Users\User\Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\ForTheCommonGood\MorebitsDotNet.cs 33 24 ForTheCommonGood Bulwersator (talk) 17:56, 7 January 2012 (UTC)"

? Bulwersator (talk) 07:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Is it possible to update it to 1.0.2.1? (I use patched version) Bulwersator (talk) 08:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Whoops, missed this one. Well, obviously, you can't define instance members in a static class; it's a great sin of .NET programming. In all seriousness, I suspect this was an error in the source which I uploaded to the server, and then I subsequently noticed the error and fixed it in my local version. Try making the member static and see what happens. — This, that, and the other (talk) 08:44, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I'll upload 1.0.2.2 in an hour or so :) (I really need to write a script that automates the upload process.)

Just out of curiosity, are you willing to let on what your patch consists of? — This, that, and the other (talk) 08:57, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

2 hacks (see in edit mode, as nowiki tag removed newlines):

adding en template to existing description: from else { text = "== {{int:filedesc}} ==\n" + text; } to else { text = "== {{int:filedesc}} ==\n" + text; if (!text.Contains(@"{{en")) { text = Regex.Replace(text, @"\|\s*Description\s*=\s*(.+)\s*\|", "| Description = {{en|1=$1}}\n|", RegexOptions.IgnoreCase); } } and my infotag is different (filling author field with "Original uploader: "... and date with "{{original upload date}}: <date>") to avoid pointless copy-paste (this one may be dangerous to enable as default, as sometimes it possible/necessary to fill author/date with different data): var uploader_link = "[[:en:User:" + iis[iis.Count - 1].Attributes["user"].Value + "|]]"; var infoTag = @"== {{int:filedesc}} == {{Information |Description = {{en|1=}} |Date = " + (exifDate != null ? "{{ISOdate|" + exifDate + "}} (from metadata)" : "{{original upload date}}: " + FormatTimestamp(iis[iis.Count - 1])) + @" |Source = {{own}} <!-- change this if not own work --> |Author = " + (selfLicense ? (uploader_link) : "Original uploader: " + uploader_link) + @" |Permission = |Other_versions = }} ";

Bulwersator (talk) 10:08, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

In 1.0.2.2, {{en}} is added automatically like you have done there; I wrote a very similar regex :) Also that stupid "I ... created this work entirely myself" phrase gets replaced with {{own}}. I will upload it soon (don't know what happened to that hour...) — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:23, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

deployment

Hi, if you make a list of extensions to install I will do it, thank you! Petrb (talk) 09:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I thought Vector extension wasn't installed, but it just need simplesearch turned on (is the watchlist star icon part of this extension? if so, could you please turn it on as well?). Also Gadgets has been set up since I last checked. Those were the main two. Thanks for that. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:11, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

User:Fred Gandt/sandbox/templates/Embed feedback dash

Looks like the only links to the page are to user pages that watch for CSD's. Am I right? The only other link is to a discussion page where I originally proposed the idea. It fell flat on it's face though. Aww. fredgandt 02:08, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Philosopher was transcluding this page and hence showing up in the CSD category, so I thought there might be other uses. But it turns out there weren't. I subst'd the use on that talk page, so now it is orphaned. Sorry about this; it can certainly be deleted now. — This, that, and the other (talk) 03:15, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem at all. Thanks for sorting my mess out there. It was an idea that went nowhere, so I figured during my cull of scripts, I could clear out a couple of other failed ideas. Anyhow, all dead and buried. I better go and explain to Philosopher, why his template isn't working (I completely forgot he had adopted the idea (the only one who did)). fredgandt 03:23, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

(I prefer TTO; after all, we don't speak of the CoIS or NAftAoCP.) — This, that, and the other (talk) 04:29, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Ok, TTO. TTFN. LOL! fredgandt 05:34, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your reports on deployment

I'm wondering if you are still seeing problems with the wiki. Could you give us new reports on http://deployment.wmflabs.org/auth/wiki/Problem_reports ??

French ready

So firstly, I take it that what starts by "#" is not to be translated (or prepared with local wiki information), so here is the file for the French Wikipedia. It would be harder to email you with the document because you can't attach anything.

Code for FtCG. (fr)

# For the Common Good # Local wiki data for YOUR WIKI NAME HERE # This should be the web address of your wiki, without ".org" LocalDomain=fr.wikipedia # Three preset categories to appear at the top of the window # If you don't have three, just remove the unneeded ones Category1=Images pour Commons DefaultCategory=1 # The name of the "Category" namespace on your local wiki, without the colon # (since the English name "Category" works on all wikis, you don't need to include # it here - FtCG handles it) CategoryNamespace=Catégorie # The local name for the "now Commons" template, indicating that the local copy of # an image should be deleted after transfer NowCommonsTag=Image sur Commons # IMPORTANT: All entries from here onwards are treated as regular expressions. # For normal text entry, this should not be a problem, but when using # symbols like ( ) [ ] ? * + | etc., please prefix with a backslash: \( \[ etc. # Local equivalents of the {{information}} template and its parameters # (put the local name SECOND, e.g. Information=Ergojduhd) Information=Information Description=Description Date=Date Source=Source Author=Author Permission=Permission Other_versions=Autre_versions # Section headings in use on the local wiki # (put the local name SECOND, e.g. Summary=Quofkokvej) Summary=Description Licensing=Licence Licensing=Publié sous licence(s) # As there are two headings for licensing, I have put Licensing= two times. # The regular expression used to detect "Copy to Commons" tags # This one is for English Wikipedia CopyToCommonsRegex={{Pour Commons|pourCommons|Image pour Commons[^}]*}}\n? # If you aren't technically confident, stop here and delete everything from here to the end # (FtCG will still work!) # Potential problems - conditions which may prevent or affect transfer (like deletion templates) # Notes: - Use IfContains= to search for a string of plain text (case-insensitive) # - Use IfRegex= to match against a regex (case-insensitive) # These should be listed in order of importance - most "problematic" first. [PotentialProblem] IfContains={{Suppression Immédiate Message=Le fichier est marqué pour la suppresion immédiate. # ... put as many potential problem sections as needed # Replacements to carry out # LookFor is a regular expression; ReplaceWith is a "replacement pattern" # where $n is the nth "capture" of the regex; for help, # visit MSDN or ask User:This, that and the other # %%OriginalUploader%% and # %%InterwikiLinkPrefix%% are special variables supplied by FtCG [Replacement] LookFor={{Art Libre}} ReplaceWith={{FAL}} # ... put as many replacement sections as needed # Replacements of self-license tags, like PD-self, GFDL-self # These use the same format as "Replacements" above [SelfLicenseReplacement] LookFor={{Domaine public par auteur([^\}]*)}} ReplaceWith={{PD-author|%%OriginalUploader%%|en}} [SelfLicenseReplacement] LookFor={{GPL([^\}]*)}} ReplaceWith={{GPL|%%OriginalUploader%%$}} [SelfLicenseReplacement] LookFor={{GFDL([^\}]*)}} ReplaceWith={{GFDL-user|%%OriginalUploader%%|en$1}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-BY-1.0}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-by}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-BY-2.0}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-by-2.0}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-BY-2.5}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-by-2.5}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-BY-3.0}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-by-3.0}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-BY-SA-1.0}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-by-sa}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-BY-SA-2.0}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-by-sa-2.0}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-BY-SA-2.0 FR}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-by-sa-2.0-fr}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-BY-SA-2.5}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-by-sa-2.5}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-BY-SA-2.5,2.0,1.0}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-by-sa-2.5,2.0,1.0}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-BY-SA-3.0}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-by-sa-3.0}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-BY-SA-3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-by-sa-3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0}} [Replacement] LookFor={{CC-zero}} ReplaceWith={{Cc-zero}} [Replacement] LookFor={{Domaine public perso}} ReplaceWith={{PD-self|%%OriginalUploader%%$}} [Replacement] LookFor={{Document domaine public}} ReplaceWith={{PD-old}} [Replacement] LookFor={{Domaine public expiré}} ReplaceWith={{PD-old}} [Replacement] LookFor={{Domaine public inéligible}} ReplaceWith={{PD-ineligible}} # ... put as many as needed

Code for FtCG. (ko)

# For the Common Good # Local wiki data for YOUR WIKI NAME HERE # This should be the web address of your wiki, without ".org" LocalDomain=ko.wikipedia # Three preset categories to appear at the top of the window # If you don't have three, just remove the unneeded ones Category1=위키미디어 공용으로 이동이 필요한 자료 DefaultCategory=1 # The name of the "Category" namespace on your local wiki, without the colon # (since the English name "Category" works on all wikis, you don't need to include # it here - FtCG handles it) CategoryNamespace=분류 # The local name for the "now Commons" template, indicating that the local copy of # an image should be deleted after transfer NowCommonsTag=now Commons # IMPORTANT: All entries from here onwards are treated as regular expressions. # For normal text entry, this should not be a problem, but when using # symbols like ( ) [ ] ? * + | etc., please prefix with a backslash: \( \[ etc. # Local equivalents of the {{information}} template and its parameters # (put the local name SECOND, e.g. Information=Ergojduhd) Information=라이선스_갱신_알림 Description=설명 Date=날짜 Source=출처 Author=만든이 Permission=저작권 Other_versions=기타 # Section headings in use on the local wiki # (put the local name SECOND, e.g. Summary=Quofkokvej) Summary=파일의 설명 Licensing=저작권 # The regular expression used to detect "Copy to Commons" tags # This one is for English Wikipedia CopyToCommonsRegex={{위키미디어 공용으로 이동 필요 편집하기}}\n? # If you aren't technically confident, stop here and delete everything from here to the end # (FtCG will still work!) # Potential problems - conditions which may prevent or affect transfer (like deletion templates) # Notes: - Use IfContains= to search for a string of plain text (case-insensitive) # - Use IfRegex= to match against a regex (case-insensitive) # These should be listed in order of importance - most "problematic" first. [PotentialProblem] IfContains={{삭제 신청 Message=이 틀에 삭제가 신청되었습니다. # ... put as many potential problem sections as needed # Replacements to carry out # LookFor is a regular expression; ReplaceWith is a "replacement pattern" # where $n is the nth "capture" of the regex; for help, # visit MSDN or ask User:This, that and the other # %%OriginalUploader%% and # %%InterwikiLinkPrefix%% are special variables supplied by FtCG [Replacement] LookFor={{orphan image.*}}\n? ReplaceWith= # ... put as many replacement sections as needed # Replacements of self-license tags, like PD-self, GFDL-self # These use the same format as "Replacements" above [SelfLicenseReplacement] LookFor={{PD-self([^\}]*)}} ReplaceWith={{PD-user|%%OriginalUploader%%|en}} [SelfLicenseReplacement] LookFor={{GFDL-self([^\}]*)}} ReplaceWith={{GFDL-user|%%OriginalUploader%%|en$1}} [SelfLicenseReplacement] LookFor={{self([^\}]*)}} ReplaceWith={{self$1|author=[[%%InterwikiLinkPrefix%%:%%OriginalUploader%%|]]}} # ... put as many as needed

 Working on kowiki and itwiki. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. (Revised on 20:46, 9 January 2012 (UTC), 21:09, 9 January 2012 (UTC))

Thanks for those. Note that you can only use one entry for each parameter unless specified (you have two Licensing entries in the frwiki file): I might need to add that to the subpage. Don't worry about cleaning it up, though; I'll do it. Thanks, — This, that, and the other (talk) 23:15, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 23:21, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

P.S. You didn't have to welcome my alternate account, Ebe123 on the go!. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 23:23, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Error: Should

[SelfLicenseReplacement]
LookFor={{Domaine public par auteur([^\}]*)}}
ReplaceWith={{PD-author|%%OriginalUploader%%|en}}

be

[SelfLicenseReplacement]
LookFor={{Domaine public par auteur([^\}]*)}}
ReplaceWith={{PD-author|%%OriginalUploader%%|fr}}

(Change in the end of the third line). There's another one two sets down that also uses en. Is this something that needs fixing? Sven Manguard Wha? 16:12, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I caught those and fixed them (I hope). If you want to use the fr.wikipedia local wiki data file, please download the fixed version from http://atlight.github.com/ftcg/fr.wikipedia.wiki. Thanks for letting me know, though. — This, that, and the other (talk) 00:06, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Twinkle commit access

Just wondering if I could have commit access to Twinkle. I know a bit of JavaScript (I've written a few scripts), but nothing major like Twinkle. If approved, I plan to make mostly minor fixes and bug-fixes. (My user name is mc10.) Thanks. —mc10 (t/c) 05:03, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't own the repository: AzaToth does, so you'll have to ask him. He's rarely active on enwiki these days, and I haven't heard from him on IRC for a while, so your best bet for contacting him would probably be by e-mail or a github message.

It would certainly be good to have you on board, to act on things at WT:TW. I try my best to stay on top of it, but it can be difficult. — This, that, and the other (talk) 05:09, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

You've essentially become the project lead. If it's possible to share repository ownership, you should ask AzaToth to share it with you. If he's becoming inactive, it's best for someone who is still active to secure top level access before he goes totally dark. Sven Manguard Wha? 15:53, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

AFAICS there is no way of sharing repository ownership on github. If AzaToth ever goes away altogether, I would probably fork the repository (so I have ownership of a copy) and then use my fork as the central repo. But AzaToth does usually come back, so I don't expect to need to do that. — This, that, and the other (talk) 00:14, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

In fact, he just returned today to sync the gadget (finally!). So he's clearly around. — This, that, and the other (talk) 00:16, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm not here, it's only the ghost of years past :) (Have had alot IRL to take care of, job etc...) _→AzaToth 20:28, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Magic spell

You proposed Wikipedia:Magic spell to deal with "unpatrollable" pages for deletion as redundant. But as far as I can see, the bug still exists. Please explain to me how to remove the patrolled tag from User talk:RHaworth/patrl tst (new pages listing) without using my trick. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:11, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

The issue is supposed to be fixed; perhaps consider reopening bug 30368 and linking to this instance. Obviously, consensus is to keep the page, and I'm not at all against this consensus. — This, that, and the other (talk) 00:22, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, This, that and the other. You have new messages at Jasper Deng's talk page.
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Let's discuss it at User talk:Jasper Deng/IPv6 instead. Jasper Deng (talk) 01:58, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, This, that and the other. You have new messages at Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle.
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Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 18:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

File:5000×5000 noise.png listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:5000×5000 noise.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.  :Jay8g ^{Hi!- I am... -What I do...} _{WASH- BRIDGE- WPWA - MFIC- WPIM} 14:25, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, This, that and the other. You have new messages at User talk:This, that and the other/For_the_Common_Good.
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3 sections waiting. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 22:45, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Re:Category:Cleanup tagged articles without a reason field

Re:Category:Cleanup tagged articles without a reason field

It may be a good idea to link "script-assisted edit" phrase to User:This, that and the other/cleanupCleanup.js (Category:Cleanup tagged articles without a reason field is with more than 25k articles) Bulwersator (talk) 08:31, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Good idea; Y done. You may have to clear your browser cache to see the changes.

I'm glad you like the script. — This, that, and the other (talk) 08:41, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Bulwersator (talk) 13:31, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

And {{cleanup}} tag without a reason may link to Category:Cleanup tagged articles without a reason field Bulwersator (talk) 14:40, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I am using the script variable wgCategories, which should avoid such problems. — This, that, and the other (talk) 03:52, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to see the edit summary changed to "Added reason code to cleanup tag (script assisted edit)". With appropriate changes to the script of course. Rich Farmbrough, 18:09, 21 February 2012 (UTC).

I wondered how long it would take before someone asked me that... — This, that, and the other (talk) 00:42, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Current Year listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Current Year. Since you had some involvement with the Current Year redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 01:39, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

New messages

Hello. You have a new message at User talk:CMBJ's talk page.

FtCG

About my request, it should be done ASAP. For tomorrow. ~~Ebe123~~ → report 15:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage engagement strategy released

Hey guys!

I'm dropping you a note because you filled out the New Page Patrol survey, and indicated you'd be interested in being contacted about follow-up work. This is to notify you that we've finally released both the initial documentation about the project and also the engagement strategy, which sets out how we plan to work with the community on this. Please give both a read, and leave any comments or suggestions you have on the talkpage, on my talkpage, or in my inbox - okeyeswikimedia.org.

It's awesome to finally get to start work on this! :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 02:16, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Your self redirects

Hi there. I'm responding to a request to fix some of the odd double redirects on WP:AN, and noticed that you've got some double redirects in your own userspace. This unnecessarily confuses the bot scripts, so I would like to delete the following pages:

• User:This, that and the other/self redirect
• User:This, that and the other/circular redirect1
• User:This, that and the other/circular redirect2

The English Wikipedia should not be a testing ground for redirects, that's why we have test.wikipedia.org - please feel free to create your redirects here. Please confirm that you are okay with the deletion of these pages. Thanks, The Helpful One 12:52, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

If you want to keep these pages, policy says that you may; WP:UP permits userspace testing and does not prohibit any redirect in userspace, except of your main talk page. Nyttend backup (talk) 13:27, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

And indeed I do wish to keep these pages. They are used for testing Twinkle, which is not used on test.wikipedia. — This, that, and the other (talk) 23:35, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Special:DoubleRedirects

FYI -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 13:40, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, This, that and the other. You have new messages at Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle.
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Two things:

• This tb is being placed with a personal twinkle (yes, it works!)
• Please tell me if the "global twinkle" idea is doable. I don't mind being the only one to work on it, but I do need to know if its doable or not before I try to do it. Since you wrote the config code, your views will be highly appreciated.

Regards Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 10:52, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

• Why did I not think of that setup?!
• The Twinkle config code does not use ResourceLoader, so I see no reason why it should be a problem. The code at https://github.com/azatoth/twinkle/blob/master/twinkle.footer.js is where it all happens. Amalthea wrote most of that code, so you might like to ask him for deeper insight. Good luck in your endeavours with this. — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:08, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Documentation for gadget authors

I saw you had done some work on heavily-used gadgets. We're trying to start a library for gadget authors to use. Please check it out and post any questions or comments there. -- ☠MarkAHershberger☢(talk)☣ 01:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

People's Champion, perhaps. Not the actual champ.

I, too, am a fan of Chael Sonnen. Regardless, you have no business falsifying a Wikipedia entry. That sort of stealth vandalism is a break of faith with the user base and it undercuts the reputation of the wiki. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at List of UFC Champions, you may be blocked from editing. SwordsmanRyan (talk) 06:19, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

As it happens I was reverting some edits which made the article appear totally broken. Since the same editor that removed Chael Sonnen also broke the article display completely, I reverted the edit in its entirety. I appreciate that someone more knowledge about the topic has repaired the article. While I may have accidentally falsified the entry, I do not believe my actions constituted vandalism, since no malicious intent was involved. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:24, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	For your TW and FtCG work Ankit MaityTalkContribs 12:51, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks; I appreciate it. — This, that, and the other (talk) 08:06, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

TTOBot Questions

Hi TTO, I was just willing to ask that after you manually invoke TTObot in the JavaScript console by typing masstag() or massremove() does it automatically start tagging and removing. If not, then could you please explain.--Ankit Maity^Talk_Contribs 05:07, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Please don't use the masstag.js script. I have approval from BAG to run it under the TTObot account only, and only for a narrow scope (see User:TTObot). If you have a request for TFD, please ask me. Otherwise, consider using AWB or editing manually. — This, that, and the other (talk) 08:03, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Just asking. I am not yet much expert with JavaScript.--Ankit Maity^Talk_Contribs 15:01, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Berlin hackathon invitation

Hi! I invite you to the yearly Berlin hackathon, 1-3 June. Registration is now open. If you need financial assistance or help with visa or hotel, then please register by May 1st and mention it in the registration form.

This is the premier event for the MediaWiki and Wikimedia technical community. We'll be hacking, designing, teaching, and socialising, primarily talking about ResourceLoader and Gadgets (extending functionality with JavaScript), the switch to Lua for templates, Wikidata, and Wikimedia Labs.

We want to bring 100-150 people together, including lots of people who have not attended such events before. User scripts, gadgets, API use, Toolserver, Wikimedia Labs, mobile, structured data, templates -- if you are into any of these things, we want you to come!

I also thought you might want to know about other upcoming events where you can learn more about MediaWiki customization and development, how to best use the web API for bots, and various upcoming features and changes. We'd love to have power users, bot maintainers and writers, and template makers at these events so we can all learn from each other and chat about what needs doing.

Check out the the developers' days preceding Wikimania in July in Washington, DC and our other events.

Best wishes! - Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation's Volunteer Development Coordinator. Please reply on my talk page, here or at mediawiki.org. Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator 21:34, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion, not AfD

Hello. It is always a good idea to talk things over with the authors before starting an AfD. If you had told me about your modification of {{W-screen}} first, I could have saved you some trouble by requesting speedy deletion myself. RockMagnetist (talk) 02:33, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

It may be a good idea in theory, but in practice it is quicker to nominate for XfD rather than waiting for a response from the creator. I don't use the watchlist, so I keep discussions open in separate tabs, which I try to minimise. Sorry if it seems discourteous; that is not intended at all. It is a matter of efficiency.

Thank you for letting me know; G7 it is. — This, that, and the other (talk) 02:35, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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-- ɑηsuмaη ^{ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ} 15:16, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Time Charter and Time charter

Thanks for your input. My problem was that Time charter redirects to an article about Shipping rather than the racehorse Time Charter. Can you suggest a solution? And btw, I don't want to come over all pompous, but I'm not sure that it's wise to post messages beginning with "Welcome to Wikipedia" to editors with 28,000+ edits.  Tigerboy1966  01:30, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that... I assumed blanking a page was the action of a newbie; my apologies for presuming so hastily!

The solution is hatnotes; I'll see if I can get them rigged up for you. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:40, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again. Hatnotes are the answer. I should have thought of that before I started blanking pages. Good job.  Tigerboy1966  09:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Craig Graham creator blank

Hi TTatO, not sure if you noticed the blanking editor and the creator are the same editor, with new account? I tagged CSD 7 and left the content. Not sure if you want to blank it again as per creator's wish? Widefox (talk) 10:03, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

I thought of that, but since it already has two keep votes at AFD, it may as well hang around until the AFD is over. I'm not sure what our guidelines say about author-requested deletion of articles. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:09, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

27th

I know that. That's why I asked the most senior Wikipedian I know, who's a techie, an ARBCOM member, and I think a bureaucrat, if they could find it for me, or point me to someone who could. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 20:38, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Your excellent assistance at WP:TWINKLE, and in particular, helping me get Twinkle working for me again. Thank you very much, I will keep WP:BYPASS in mind next time Twinkle decides not to appear. Things like this may be simple to some, but not to other's (I, being one of them) Again, Thank you! -- MST☆R (Chat Me!) 10:19, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Re:User:This,_that_and_the_other/cleanupCleanup.js

Re:User:This,_that_and_the_other/cleanupCleanup.js

I removed "if (wgCategories.indexOf("Cleanup tagged articles without a reason field") !== -1)" check in my version as somebody decided that dividing this category is a smart idea Bulwersator (talk) 21:20, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Done. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:19, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Bulwersator (talk) 07:29, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Re:User:This,_that_and_the_other/cleanupCleanup.js

Re:User:This,_that_and_the_other/cleanupCleanup.js

Due to evil redirects it may be a good idea to replace

pageobj.setPageText(pageobj.getPageText().replace(/\{\{cleanup([^}]*)\}\}\n*/i, ""));

with

pageobj.setPageText(pageobj.getPageText().replace(/\{\{(Cleanup|Cleanup section|Cleanup-section|Clean-up section|Attention|Attention \(on talk page\)|Attention see talk|Attn|CU|Celan-up|Clean|Clean up|Clean-up|Cleancat|Cleanup-article|Cleanup-because|Cleanup-date|Cleanup-quality|Cleanup-reason|Cleanup-since|Clu|Cu|Improve|Index-cleanup|Quality|Spelling|Tidy)([^}]*)\}\}\n*/i, ""));

or

pageobj.setPageText(pageobj.getPageText().replace(/\{\{(Cleanup|Cleanup section|Cleanup-section|Clean-up section|Attention|Attention \(on talk page\)|Attention see talk|Attn|CU|Celan-up|Clean|Clean up|Clean-up|Cleancat|Cleanup-article|Cleanup-because|Cleanup-date|Cleanup-quality|Cleanup-reason|Cleanup-since|Clu|Cu|Improve|Index-cleanup|Quality|Spelling|Tidy)\s*(|\|\s*section\s*)(|\|\s*date\s*=\s*[^}|]*)\}\}\n*/i, ""));

to avoid eating all templates starting on "cu"

Bulwersator (talk) 22:36, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I didn't say, but it's done :) — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Please have a look at Commons:Commons:Bots/Requests/OgreBot 3, Please fix the diff I provided there. ;) mabdul 19:13, 29 May 2012 (UTC) mabdul 19:13, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

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Multiple params in templates for TW

I was wondering that how could we have multiple mandatory params for article tagging templates (in "case '<tag name>'" cases). It would be nice (and awesome :D) if you gave me some code examples here.--Ankit Maity^Talk_Contribs 08:03, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Basically, just repeat the code between the "case <tag name>" and the "break" lines (not including those lines):

case "tagname":
	var reason = prompt('Please enter the name of a WikiProject which might be able to help recruit an expert.  \n' +
		"This information is required.  To skip the {{tagname}} tag, click Cancel.", "");
	if (reason === null || reason === "") {
		Morebits.status.warn("Notice", "{{cleanup}} tag skipped by user");
		continue;
	} else {
		currentTag += '|reason=' + reason;
	}
	var foo = prompt('Please enter the name of the latest car released by Toyota.  \n' +
		"This information is required.  To skip the {{expert-subject}} tag, click Cancel.", "");
	if (foo === null || foo === "") {
		Morebits.status.warn("Notice", "{{cleanup}} tag skipped by user");
		continue;
	} else {
		currentTag += '|fooParam=' + foo;
	}
	break;

A silly example, but you get the general idea. Which tag do you want to do this for? — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:13, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I thought the same thing but you know its better to consult a expert before doing. I was actually asking this for {{Expand language}}.--Ankit Maity^Talk_Contribs 16:38, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

User:TTObot

• User:TTObot

An updated BAG request aside, how difficult would it be to modify your bot to deal with CfD (cfd/cfr/cfm) group noms? - jc37 16:43, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Very easy. I just plug in the text that I want added to the top of each page, and off it goes. — This, that, and the other (talk) 04:19, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

June 2012

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is invited to contribute, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Talk:Kahaani, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Plea$ant 1623 11:59, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

• @This, that and the other - I reverted to your version Bulwersator (talk) 12:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Junk left around after testing that others then tripped over

• Test (AfD discussion)

If nothing had changed Snotbot (talk · contribs) would just have kept finding this page and rolling forward the "nomination" again and again, just like it did today. Since your testing appears to have been over days ago, I've deleted the page under criterion G2. Please be aware of the 'bot and clean up after your testing more promptly. Uncle G (talk) 19:58, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

• Whoops! Forgot about damned Snotbot. Sorry for causing grief.

  Does the bot do anything if I create tests like WP:Articles for deletion/Like this one where no such article exists? — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

  • You'll have to ask Scottywong about that. Uncle G (talk) 12:59, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
• And it wasn't just for testing closeAFD; it was also to test deletion sorting, but I never got around to it, as you can see. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:10, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

NCAA infobox redirects

Hi there, and thanks for your help with the NCAA Football userbox redirects! I've moved those things around so many times I hardly know what redirects to them anymore.. thanks again! CaseyPenk (talk) 20:23, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Eze Castle Integration

Ok - I see what's happening. I meant to delete King4057/Eze Castle Integration. It has a redirect to Eze Castle Integration, so yah... Would you mind deleting King4057/Eze Castle Integration ;-) User:King4057 02:43, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Done (not by me though!) — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:14, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Siphonandra

I'd say in this area common sense demands that names in current use at whatever level is deemed notable (and for plants, I think it's agree that every genus is) are not redirect anywhere. Synonyms can get redirected if they are notable enough. I suspect there are too many homonyms and near homonym to make systematic redirection all that useful (besides not all of them qualifies as "Alternative names" worthy of making redirects for anyway!). Plus what happens if (when?) Siphonandra Klotzsch is conserved?

If you really insist on putting something at Siphonandra, it should be a disambiguation page. Personally I'd rather leave it as a redlink in the meantime, hence why I just deleted the redirect (which is what I usually do when I find such inappropriate redirect, though homonymy is not usually involved). Circéus (talk) 05:25, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, you actually blanked the redirect, rather than deleting it. The difference is fairly significant: see the guideline on page blanking - only the first few sentences are relevant in this case.

If you like, you could send the redirect to redirects for deletion, but it may be easier just to create the disambiguation page. I might leave that to you, since I know little about taxonomy.

(I apologise for causing confusion; I confidently went ahead and reverted your blanking and then realised the situation was more complicated than I thought!) — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:19, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Really? Oh damn, sorry. I was sure I'd deleted the thing, and I assume you had simply restored it. Don't worry, reverting the blanking was appropriate. Circéus (talk) 15:22, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

TWG

Hey, I'm back :)

Did you get time to look into why the portlet code works only on console invocation? (In case you've forgotten, the twaddportlet and twaddportletlink code work when invoked through the console, but the same code doesn't work in the script itself.)

I've updated TWG per the morebits object update, but that didn't solve the issue either.

Hope a fix to this can be found. Regards--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 12:26, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Navbox link template

Say, I'm trying to get a conversation going about this idea. Would you please consider commenting? Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 20:49, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Chattejee International Center

Hi, it's a typo of "Chatterjee International Center"... --Guillaume2303 (talk) 10:42, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I realise that; redirects from plausible typos are welcome and should be kept. CSD R3 is only for "implausible" typos, for example, "Ch%tterjee International Center". — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:50, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't care much either way, but logic would then have it that you should create redirects for "Catterjee International Center", "Chatterjee Intenational Center", etc... --Guillaume2303 (talk) 10:55, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Well yes; if those were created they shouldn't be deleted. See WP:R#KEEP, point 2 in particular. But there is no particular reason to go round creating redirects from typos, unless one likes that sort of thing... — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:00, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Your sandbox page

Hi, was just wondering if you would be removing the templates from User:This, that and the other/sandbox/multiple issues, I only ask because it's meant the page has been added to a number of maintenance categories--Jac16888 ^Talk 22:47, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I didn't realise it was in so many categories! The templates themselves really need to be fixed so they don't place user pages in article categorise; I'll look into it. — This, that, and the other (talk) 00:51, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

There; there is only one remaining article category on the page and I have no clue which template it is coming from! So I'll just ignore it. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:19, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Good enough for me, cheers--Jac16888 ^Talk 01:24, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	For informing me of something so simple yet so useful! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:12, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:07, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Feedback on CP/template testing

Thanks so much for your feedback/suggestions! I'm at Wikimania right now, but I'm getting really excited about tackling this overhaul once I get back to the office.

Btw, Steven and I just gave a talk on template testing and got a lot of positive feedback on the project, so it looks like we're on the right track. Based on the outcome of our RfC on level one user warnings, we'll think about AfD and PROD changes, too. As for CSD, we're working with the NewPages Feed team to make new speedy templates for the curation toolbar that are in line with our testing findings (i.e., short and to the point!). If those turn out to work better, maybe they can make their way into Twinkle :)

Anyway, thanks again for your comments (and for letting us tinker with TW!) and feel free to shoot me your ideas/concerns/scathing criticism, etc. anytime ;) Maryana (WMF) (talk) 15:33, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

RE: TW

I prodded AzaToth on IRC when I made the change as I wasn't going to do anything in the repo. Thanks for the note though. Rjd0060 (talk) 10:02, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Ah, OK, good to know! Did Aza say he was going to modify it? — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:04, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Some blueberries for you!

	Some blueberries for you!
	You must be hungry after that recoding of Twinkle's CSD behavior. Blueberries are in season here in Oregon, so have some! BTW, do you know what's causing TW's [restore this version] to still not work? David1217 What I've done 17:04, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for showing your appreciation. I shall sup on those blueberries for lunch.

Re [restore this version], I honestly have no idea what is going wrong. When a diff page next loads without the link, open your JavaScript console (by pressing Ctrl+Shift+K in Firefox), and type

Twinkle.fluff.init();

and press Enter. (Ignore any "undefined" message.) Does the [restore...] link then appear? Or do you receive errors? BTW, which skin do you use? — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:55, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

It's not that the diff links don't appear (it's not just [restore], the rollback links don't function properly either); it's that when I click on them, all that happens is that a # is added onto the end of the URL. When I add Twinkle.fluff.init(); to my Error Console, a second set of working links appear above the non-working ones. However, whenever I want to use the links, I manually have to add Twinkle.fluff.init(); again. My configuration: Vector, Safari 5.1.7, OS X 10.6.8, MacBook Air. David1217 ^{What I've done} 16:18, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I suspect you may have a script conflict, since you have so many scripts in your common.js file! Try disabling all other gadgets and removing all other user scripts from your common.js (keeping Twinkle enabled), and see if the problem is fixed. If it is, start adding back gadgets/scripts one by one, or in chunks, until you find the culprit. — This, that, and the other (talk) 23:39, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

All right, will do. Thanks! David1217 ^{What I've done} 03:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Bah!

Bah! That is all. BigNate37_(T) 04:47, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean? — This, that, and the other (talk) 05:16, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I just don't like redirects from all lowercase. The software knows enough to make the Go button work without them, and having them appear as blue links makes one more unprintworthy redirect to worry about folks linking to. I'm not about to go on a RfD nomination binge or anything, but since it was my mistake this time, I thought I would just have it tidied up via G7. The only redirect I intended to create today was the properly capitalized one. BigNate37_(T) 06:17, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

While not really necessary, redirects are cheap, so it doesn't hurt to leave it. If it was misspelt then I probably wouldn't have removed the tag. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:53, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I know, it doesn't really hurt, it only bothers me because I created it. I'm not clamouring for you to leave the CSD tag on it. I'm just saying 'bah.' Bah! BigNate37_(T) 08:05, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I had the same "problem" as you. See the page history of nat geo bee. David1217 ^{What I've done} 04:10, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, c'est la vie. BigNate37_(T) 06:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Lackadaisical

A tag has been placed on Lackadaisical requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, a rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. reddogsix (talk) 07:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

It's not eligible for A3. I encourage you to read the criteria before going and tagging things for deletion. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:57, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Oscar (footballer)

Please try and be a bit more constructive in your edits. The page was linking people to an older footballer which shouldn't have been the case. Due to time restrictions, I blanked the page. Next time, please try and helps users rather than just reverting their edits. Mythical Curse (talk) 03:38, 6 August 2012 (UTC).

I might point out that when a redirect is blanked, and no reason is given in the edit summary, it is hard to know what to do. Often, to ensure that the page remains useful for our readers, it may be best to simply revert the edit and restore the redirect. Had I myself had more time, I would have asked about your intentions on your talk page.

I would suggest that in future, you should avoid blanking pages - either edit them to fix any problems they may have, or tag them for deletion. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:49, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Whisperback addon

Thank you for that, much appreciated. – AJL^talk 10:00, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

New messages

Hello. You have a new message at Ajl772's talk page. Message added 10:26, 6 August 2012 (UTC). testing back at you– AJL^talk 10:26, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

thank you for ASCII chart

I imagine that some people may still see some chartjunk in the Commons:File:ASCII Code Chart.svg, currently used in the ASCII article.

I see you already fixed the one little thing I once ranted about, so I'm happy :-). Thank you. --DavidCary (talk) 01:56, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Twinkle

Hi! I went to NPP and I no longer have the TW button on my computer. I'm using Firefox and have no idea why I no longer have Twinkle. Can you please help me? Thanks, Electric Catfish² 00:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC).

I've been doing a little testing and have found that the TW bar appears when I am at the editing interface of an article or talk page. Would you be able to restore it to be accessed just from viewing the page? Thanks, Electric Catfish² 01:02, 25 September 2012 (UTC).

See WT:TW#Twinkle_completely_not_working.3F. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:21, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I don't enjoy manual NPP! Electric Catfish² 11:43, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Me neither! — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with references

Thanks for editing the reference section at News media phone hacking scandal reference lists so that the reference citations were displayed. I couldn't figure out how to fix the problem. Bryantbob (talk) 17:39, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

can you 'fix' this template?

It looks like User: Abou Ben Adhem is long-gone, and I noticed that last year you tried to contact him about a TFD on his templates from 2006. Basically, what I need done is on the article Alans, under Timeline, the translated-from-the-Russian term "Forecaucasus" changed to the common English term "Ciscaucasus." I am worried if I try to go in there and just swap out the words under "Edit" I'll make a hash of it.  :-) HammerFilmFan (talk) 02:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Done! I hope it is better now. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:58, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit summary label

Since you previously commented on what to do with the thing, here's a heads up that I've opened a new discussion regarding it. Any input you may or may not have now would be appreciated, regardless of what you said previously. -— Isarra ༆ 06:48, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

FurMe help

Hi there, I was recommended to you by Amalthea (talk · contribs).

Check this out. Any idea why WP:FURME stopped working for me?

Thank you for your time, — Cirt (talk) 18:18, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

FurMe is really badly broken. I have been very busy this year, and although I do have a development copy sitting around on my hard drive, it is nowhere near finished.

What you should do to (try to) get the old version working is to place this line before your import of FurMe:

importScript("User:AzaToth/morebits.js");

See if that works. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:14, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Wow, looks like that may have fixed it for now, thank you! — Cirt (talk) 03:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Free merchandise nomination

I thought that you deserved something a bit extra for all of the amazing work you've done for the project. I've nominated you for a gift from the Wikimedia Foundation!

David1217 ^{What I've done} 02:01, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

js subpages

All deleted as per request. Let me know if I've missed any.  An optimist on the run! 08:07, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I knew it was time for a clearout when I couldn't see the whole list of my user subpages without scrolling! — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:26, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Just in case you miss the addition I made to the section (which is a decent way up the page) Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:42, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

FtCG question

Hello, is it possible to transfer more than one file on the same time with FtCG? It's really a good tool! Regards LZ6387 (talk) 08:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

No it isn't; however, you can actually have more than one "instance" of FtCG open at once! Just double-click on the FtCG icon a second time, and a second instance of FtCG will open. While one instance is busy transferring, you can prepare your next transfer in the other instance. I'm glad you're enjoying FtCG, and please don't hesitate to offer any more feedback! — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:03, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

I will try it with five or six instances, then I can copy the information between the different ones and save time. Thank you, if I have more feedback I will come back. Regards LZ6387 (talk) 09:12, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello again, would it be possible to have like a preview window which can be opened before the transfer, so you can check if everything seems okay? Regards LZ6387 (talk) 08:30, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

As in, to preview the Commons wikitext? I was working on an in-browser, JavaScript-based version of FtCG a while ago which implemented such a feature, but development was held up by a problem with Wikimedia server configuration. (That version would only have been usable by Commons admins anyway.)

There are a few problems implementing such a thing in desktop FtCG, but I could probably get around them fairly easily: the thing is, I have never found it necessary to preview the Commons wikitext before transfer. Sometimes I need to change things on-wiki afterwards, but I can live with that. What is your specific use-case for a preview feature? — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes I need to edit the files after the upload because I forgot to translate something, with a preview I would notice and correct the mistake before the upload. Regards -LZ6387 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:46, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I can't add anything to FtCG at the moment because my development repository is dirty, but once that is all fixed I will see if I can put a preview feature in. Thanks for the feedback! — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:51, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you too and have a nice Christmas! Regards LZ6387 (talk) 09:52, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Twinkle - apology and thanks

I'm so sorry, I was an arse. Thank you very much for your reasonable and considerate responses. Best wishes, DBaK (talk) 10:49, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Twinkle addition

Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 06:49, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for adding the multi level warnings. I've added the three related single issue notices to the discussion - would you please add them to Twinkle as well? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:00, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

bug 32234

Has there been any discussions onwiki about bugzilla:32234 - it appears to have languished a very long time. We probably need to nudge the shell group. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 04:01, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can see, the feature we want hasn't actually been coded into MediaWiki yet, so the shell group is a bit powerless here. There is a general throttle available (each IP address can create only 6 accounts per hour or something along those lines) but not what we want. I adjusted the bug to reflect the current situation. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:11, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining, and updating the bug. I missed the fact that the current capability is hourly rather than daily. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 07:02, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Actually, the setting I was thinking of is on a per-day basis (see mw:Manual:$wgAccountCreationThrottle). However, it still doesn't do what we want (it affects logged-in and logged-out users alike). — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:15, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

I see. Have we investigated whether this can be implemented using an 'createaccount' action abuse filter with user_groups/user_age limiters (see mw:Extension:AbuseFilter/RulesFormat) combined with rate throttling (see mw:Extension:AbuseFilter/Actions#Throttling)

If development is needed, I think one approach is to ask for 'createaccount' to be supported by mw:Manual:$wgRateLimits. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 00:18, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, it hadn't occurred to me (or to anyone else, apparently) that we could use AbuseFilter for this. However I really don't know much about AbuseFilter, so you might have to ask elsewhere. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:30, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't know anything about whether this is technically feasible; however, if it is, I think it would be a good idea. NW (Talk) 06:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I have created Special:AbuseFilter/527 in logging-only mode (no throttling enabled), and marked it private for the moment (the logs probably should be private). I have also granted you the 'Edit Filter managers', so you can see how it works. I looked through the user creation log for the last few days and found Kendrajzurn (talk · contribs), who recently created three accounts: you can test the filter with that username. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 21:20, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

We have a hit (not mentioning the name intentionally). I don't understand it, but I am guessing checkuser will reveal all. I'll ask two CUs to come have a look and comment here. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 22:24, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Yep, that's a vandal creating more vandal accounts. Blocked. NW (Talk) 22:29, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand why this filter works, but... if it does, I can't complain. Even with abusefilter rights, there is very little information I can see to confirm the filter is working as intended. I suppose you need to be a checkuser to make the most benefit from it. Still, I trust you folks :) — This, that, and the other (talk) 23:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks NW. If I understand this correctly, ..

a) the throttle 'ip' setting is working. In some instances, a user creates other accounts while logged in (e.g. Kendrajzurn). In other cases, a person logs out and then creates other accounts. (i.e. N......panocha in the edit filter log and in NW's block log) This edit filter is catching the extra accounts created on the same IP while logged out (if two are created within a day).

b) the fact that we cant see the other accounts of that vandal via the abusefilter interface means that abusefilter isnt leaking private information. If it did show us the other accounts in the latter case of N......panocha, it would mean that the abusefilter interface is linking accounts based on IP, which is almost leaking the underlying IP. This is good news - I think it means that we could make this edit filter public, as it doesnt bleed extra information. But the bad news is that OTT is right; only checkusers can respond to this type of account creation abuse.

There are another six cases of the IP-created accounts in the edit filter log, so it looks like the majority of the hits will require checkuser investigation and intervention, especially while we are trying to gauge whether this edit filter has an acceptable level of false positives.

Special:AbuseLog/8168342 is a little strange, as the account listed doesn't exist - I am guessing that means they tried to create an account, but the attempt was rejected by an IP auto-block. That is a presentation bug. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 01:13, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't think so. I tested it on my local testwiki, I was unable to access Special:CreateAccount itself with a message saying I was prevented from creating accounts. Legoktm (talk) 01:05, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Take a look at Special:AbuseLog/8211383, Special:AbuseLog/8211403, Special:AbuseLog/8211410, and Special:AbuseLog/8211425. I haven't been able to figure out why these accounts are prevented from being created. Legoktm (talk) 01:05, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok I believe this is a symptom of bugzilla:19605. I have no clue what other reason could prevent the creation though... Legoktm (talk) 05:22, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Werdna is the one to contact about this, I'd say. Very few people understand AbuseFilter like Andrew does... After all, he wrote it in the first place :) — This, that and the other (talk) 23:19, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Deletion

Hello there
I just need some help. Can we nominate an article for fast deletion or proposed deletion which was proposed for deleting 2 years ago because of None-Notable and low quality and did not deleted because of the result of a voting? Specially if the creator couldn't add more reliable sources or reasons to prove the Notablitiy. --Machinhead666 (talk) 12:34, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Beeblebrox answered this well. — This, that and the other (talk) 01:44, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

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Update section

I concur with your suggestion. I stepped down the protection level on the template. Could you go ahead an modify it as suggested? Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:50, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Tfm-inline

I saw you redirect Tfm-inline to Tfm with the edit summary "no longer required". Why do you think Tfm-inline is no longer required. Is there now a way to make Tfm show an inline version? Because if there is, I didn't see it. Debresser (talk) 09:15, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I thought you might notice that, Debresser - you seem to have a very keen eye for all things template-related. You can now use {{subst:tfm|other template name|type=inline}}, just as with TFD. — This, that and the other (talk) 09:17, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Would you mind updating the documentation then. Debresser (talk) 21:48, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

To avoid duplication of content in the TFM docs, I included (under the heading "Display in articles") a link to the corresponding TFD template documentation. Do you think that is enough? — This, that and the other (talk) 00:04, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

No I don't. :) That why I came to "complain" here. :) Debresser (talk) 00:06, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, it was as simple as a copy-and-paste, then. You probably could even have done it yourself. — This, that and the other (talk) 00:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Maybe. But I started a 2-week period of registration in North America at my work in which I work 14 hours a day, and simply don't have the presence of mind for it. Thank you for doing it. Debresser (talk) 01:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Worstcook/sandbox

Hi--I'm hoping you'll explain what you meant with "is related to". It's clear that this user is just using Wikipedia to keep track of some results. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 15:31, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea how it is related. However, it is clearly related in some way to Amazing Race and Survivor, and "results" tables like this appear in the relevant articles, so it is not inconceivable that the user's sandbox is for an encyclopedic purpose. And besides, it's definitely not "imaginary". I would WP:AGF and let it exist. — This, that and the other (talk) 22:16, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Deepwater Horizon oil spill/draft

A tag has been placed on Deepwater Horizon oil spill/draft requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to an article talk page, image description page, image talk page, mediawiki page, mediawiki talk page, category talk page, portal talk page, template talk page, help talk, user page, or user talk page from the article space.

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Hello, I'm This, that and the other. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions because it didn't appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! this is a really old browser!!!! — This, that and the other (talk) 07:01, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

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A question for people who commented in the RfC at "Probationary Period" and "Not Unless". (Or feel free to reply on my talk page, if you prefer.) - Dank (push to talk) 18:59, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, perhaps you'd be interested in revisiting this discussion? Articles have been created and then expanded on a few other albums; three are certainly worthy of articles, others may well be. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hopefully the TFD will be closed as no consensus. — This, that and the other (talk) 23:59, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	For creating the header for the Twinkle Teahouse talkback. (Wow, that alliteration!) I assume it was you, at least. If I'm wrong, worry! öBrambleberry of RiverClan 17:05, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I wrote the code and Amalthea made the change live. So it was teamwork! — This, that and the other (talk) 00:06, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

In that case, here's this instead:

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		For writing the code to create a header for Twinkle Teahouse talkback. öBrambleberry of RiverClan 15:08, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

So...yeah. öBrambleberry of RiverClan 15:08, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

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Re: "Pedant"

You misunderstood the edit, given that edit summary. You didn't change it back but actually kept in the heart of my edit, and I have no problem with [most of] your edit because it retained that crucial change – which is exquisitely one of substance. It said before, alone, that "draft article submissions to Wikipedia, created via the Article Wizard and subsequently "declined", are considered...", not even mentioning articles for creation. What you seem to be missing is that many articles created through the wizard are not submitted through AFC and people who do not go through the Wizard but start at AFC may be quite unaware they were redirected from AFC to the Wizard when they clicked "Create an article now!". Accordingly, talking about AFC and leaving out the wizard does no great harm, as G13 does, though I do think the wizard should be mentioned on this explanation page. Focusing on the article wizard and leaving out AFC entirely, on the other hand, as you did, is a clear error of focus and information, sure to mislead and confuse the intended readers of the page, many of whom will be scratching their heads having never heard of the wizard, and who will also be reading a criterion in conjunction that talks only about AFC and not the wizard. Also, anyone who submitted an article through the wizard that did not choose the AFC option for creation and found that page would think it applied to them when it does not. And even if none of this was true, your edit summary would be a bit gratuitous.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry – I realised soon after making the edit that it wasn't the most sensible edit summary I could have used. The thing is, I get frustrated when users expand text destined for newbies (such as notification templates, etc) with tonnes of conditions, exceptions, subordinate clauses and excessive verbiage, just to make it absolutely correct in all possible circumstances. By all means, the exceptions and other technicalities can certainly be written up in the policies, but we don't need to fill our newbie-facing material with "small print" that's not small at all.

Newbies (aside from the tiny minority that are on their way to becoming long-term editors) are simply not going to know the difference between WIZ and AFC, and they won't reach REFUND/G13 from a page outside AFC-space. Not all Wikipedia editors spend a lot of time getting to know our various processes, as we have done... most just come by to do a bit of casual editing, or perhaps article creation, without taking much notice of the exact processes being used. In my view, the KISS principle is one of the keys to editor retention.

I might also point out that your statement "this language made G13 cover all those to which it does not apply" is not totally accurate either, because REFUND/G13 is not a policy at all.

Having said all that, I think we've reached a compromise, and I hope you agree that REFUND/G13 is now better than it first was, now that you have run your eyes over it. Hopefully G13 turns out to be an efficient and uncontroversial way of keeping AFC-space clean. — This, that and the other (talk) 03:34, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

NAC at WT:CSD

Hi TTO. Thanks for all the work you've done volunteering here at Wikipedia. I noticed you closed my proposal at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Proposal: mass deletion of all articles at WP:AfC. I'll just say I can accept the NAC and leave it at that. I'd like to ask if you could amend your close with a summary of people's thoughts on the proposal (i.e. this was rejected because of A, B and C or whatever). Could you do that please? Thanks for the help. 64.40.57.76 (talk) 07:31, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

OK. I'll add a summary to the discussion. I have to say, it is always disheartening to see Oppose Oppose Oppose one after the other! What happened to a good old discussion? WP:NOTVOTE? — This, that and the other (talk) 07:46, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you I appreciate the help. it is always disheartening to see... I cetainly felt that way several years ago, but nowadays I don't mind too much. One good reason to be an IP is I don't have a watchlist, so I often forget about the discussions I have started. That's a good thing. Thanks for the close and your support of Twinkle. Its's much appreciated. 64.40.57.76 (talk) 08:57, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Twinkle warning changes

Just a heads-up I left a request at WT:Twinkle about one of the recent changes you made to the Twinkle warnings list. (Notifying you here because the discussion at Twinkle was already a few days old; not sure if you're still following it.) I'd be grateful if you could attend to this quickly because this has really created an annoying gap for my work. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:37, 12 April 2013 (UTC)