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Sincerely, Arctic Kangaroo 14:48, 15 April 2013 (UTC)   (Leave me a message)[reply]

Arctic Kangaroo 14:48, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Your submission at Articles for creation

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Your submission at Articles for creation

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Yutsi Talk/ Contributions ( 偉特 ) 15:04, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly unfree File:James Lord Bowes 1834-99.jpg

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:James Lord Bowes 1834-99.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 14:50, 12 April 2013 (UTC) I have responded to this criticism four times on the 'discussion' page, where it seems no discussion ever takes place, giving the facts of ownership of this image and recieved no reply or useful response. It hardly seems productive to raise an objection and invite debate without returning to the question {{help me}} Leopold7 (talk) 12:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please answer these questions (probably on the PUF page, but here is fine):
  1. Who took the picture? Can you prove this?
  2. Where did you find the picture, if it wasn't taken by you?
  3. When did the person who took the picture die?
  4. Who owns the copyright to the picture?
I'll reply after you answer :) gwickwiretalkediting 17:54, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you GWickwire, I shall again attempt to explain the situation. 1. The person in the photograph was a millionaire, he did not take the photograph, he had someone take it for him. We do not know who this photographer was but it was taken circa 1875 as the subject was born in 1834 and he appears in the photograph to be around forty years of age. 2. A digital copy of the picture from an original family album was given to me by the descendants of the subject, who own the original. 3. I think it a fair assumption that any photographer working circa 1875 is now dead, and has been for some considerable time. 4. The owners of the original picture and I both believe that any copyright has expired, for three reasons: A. The subject (original owner) died in 1899 at the age of 66 years. B. If the photograph was taken circa 1875, as we believe,then it is a fair assumption that the unknown photographer had a similar lifespan to the subject. C. This same image has already been used in various articles and published works - the most important being Japan and Britain after 1859: Creating Cultural Bridges, by Olive Checkland, Routledge Curzon, London 2003. The illustration can be seen there by googling the book title in relation to the name of the subject "James Lord Bowes".

 Our opinion is that if the original owner died more than 100 years ago, then his descendants (heirs) are the only people who have the right to decide its use: and they have offered the picture for use in the article on their ancestor. If this is not satisfactory to Wikipedia then the picture may be deleted.

Thank you Leopold7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.64.5.115 (talk) 11:42, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]