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Non-notable businessperson and author of a non-notable novel —teb728 t c 21:45, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. czar · · 00:02, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. czar · · 00:03, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep article. By deleting, we would promote criteria, based on which countless articles should be deleted. In my view, the article meets the criteria for what is generally accepted as notable in Wikipedia. The newly-established article has now been cropped and can be cropped and/or improved further, for it to more precisely focus on key matters, such as:
1. Edna Jeffrey was for decades the co-owner of the famous Finnila's Finnish Baths on San Francisco's Market Street. Finnila's was a popular and important element in the history of San Francisco's Castro District.[1][2][3] Edna Jeffrey is also co-owner of the Noe & Market Center on San Francisco's Market Street, and she was a long-time co-owner of a part of the property of Cafe Flore in San Francisco. Both Cafe Flore and Finnila's Finnish Baths have been San Francisco's popular "landmark" type businesses for long, Finnila's operating in San Francisco's Castro District alone for over seven decades, and continuing thereafter on Taraval Street.
Among recognition, the two businesses have been granted the "The Best" award by San Francisco Bay Guardian in total at least eight times. Still shortly before closing its popular Market Street location in San Francisco in the 1980s, Finnila's Finnish Baths - owned by Edna Jeffrey and his brother Alfred Finnila - was awarded with the title "The Best" two times in row by the popular bi-weekly and free San Francisco Bay Area entertainment magazine San Francisco Bay Guardian. According to the paper, Finnila's was "The Best Sauna and Massage Parlor" in the San Francisco Bay Area in 1983 and 1984. [4]
2. Edna Jeffrey is the author of thenovel Till I'm with You Again, a movie screenplay for which has recently been finished by the many times Emmy-nominated Thom Racina - and, a movie production is now under works. Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page). -- Rubert ABC (talk) 22:45, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In response to Rubert ABC, I will not express an opinion about the notability of the businesses, but I will say that notability is not inherited. The owner of a notable business is not automatically notable, even if the business won a couple of local awards. As for the novel and the screenplay, I can find no coverage whatsoever of either in independent, reliable sources. I see discussion on a website controlled by the screenwriter, but that doesn't count, as it isn't independent. The third source, a church website, doesn't even mention her. Your statement that countless other Wikipedia articles ought to be deleted is no doubt true, and we delete many articles about non-notable topics from Wikipedia every day. The existence of such articles is no defense for this article, because the purpose of this debate is to make a decision about this article alone. So I ask you, where is the significant coverage of Edna Jeffrey in independent, reliable sources? I just don't see it so far, and without it, the article will almost certainly be deleted. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ San Francisco Examiner. May 27, 1982. No. 147, p. 2. Golden Gate Bridge - 45th anniversary of completion.
  2. ^ Auerbach, Stevanne. The Contest.
  3. ^ Auerbach, Stevanne. The Contest - Finnila's-related exerts.
  4. ^ San Francisco Bay Guardian - N:o 37, 1984.