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May 1

Could you please name the tune that this guy sings on his drive?

What song does "Doo-walk-a-doo" come from?

Hopefully someone here has a bell rung in their minds for them. Thanks. --70.179.161.230 (talk) 04:34, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like he's making it up as he goes along. See Scat singing. --Jayron32 05:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Look in youtube under "doo wacka doo", and you'll find that Roger Miller in the 60s, and Paul Whiteman in the 30s or 40s, had (different) songs with that same title. In Miller's case, he was basically slurring "do like I do". In the case of the big band song, it was more like nonsense words. As regards the OP's video, it's just weird. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:59, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When I read this last night I could hear the Roger Miller version so clearly in my head but I couldn't remember Miller's name so thanks for jogging the old grey cells Bugs. In my search I did find this older version from Paul Whitemann from the 1920s [1]. Oddly the way the person is singing it in the weird video posted does bear a slight (very slight) resemblance to the older version. MarnetteD | Talk 22:54, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The big band version I remember is the cover done in the 1960s, by Tony Randall, believe it or not. He had an album of big band songs, which were somewhere on the border between serious and parody. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:52, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am unable to purchase things in my game. Could you please help?

I am unable to purchase things in my game. Could you please help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.4.60.224 (talk) 05:36, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What game? The more detailed you can be in your question, the more likely someone is going to be able to provide you with a good answer. --Jayron32 05:39, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

music

--Sillymut (talk) 14:32, 1 May 2013 (UTC) what do you have to do to become a famous singer?[reply]

please post answer to my page*

Either be a very good singer, or pretend you are long enough, or do something notorious while being a singer, or some mixture of those. ¦ Reisio (talk) 17:12, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is the Wikipedia reference desk. If you have a request for reference material please ask it. μηδείς (talk) 23:51, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Read The Manual. Kmusser (talk) 18:48, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Instrumental music in the background

Hi,
I would like to know what is the classic music in the background?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EcZA7R5HXQ
I heard it alone, not in this song.
Thank you. Exx8 (talk) 19:35, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Livin' la Vida Loca or Hips Don't Lie?--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:54, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

no. Exx8 (talk) 16:47, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

the solution to head trauma

request for medical advice removed, see guidelines at top of page

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Guidelines/Medical advice Better link.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:56, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

May 2

Universal Pulse by 311

The 311 release Universal Pulse has 8 songs and is 28:55 long. Should this release be classified as a long EP or a short full album? 108.0.244.168 (talk) 07:56, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that it should be classified according to what 311 themselves call it. If they call it an album, it's an album. Mini-LP might be better than EP, as well. But there are many, many examples of albums with running times of less than 30 mins. --Viennese Waltz 08:03, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I referred to it as a mini-LP and categorized it as both an album and an EP because it is somwhere between the two classifications. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 08:56, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's stopping you from calling it an album? If it's just the running time, then that is not a valid reason, as I explained above. --Viennese Waltz 09:03, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing is. I will refer to it as an album and mini-LP. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 10:27, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well you can't really call it both, in my opinion. But do as you wish. --Viennese Waltz 11:19, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

According to album, "According to the rules of the UK Charts, a recording counts as an "album" if either it has more than four tracks or lasts more than 25 minutes.[17] Sometimes shorter albums are referred to as "mini-albums" or EPs.[18]".--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:59, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Jar of Flies by Alice In Chains referred to as an EP even though it is longer than Universal Pulse? The UK charts would consider both releases to be albums. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 20:52, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The only answer to this is that those are the labels that the companies who published the albums put on them. In the vinyl record era of recorded music, the terms "LP" and "EP" and "Single" had very precise meaning related to the actual size and speed of the media itself. There was, of course, some variation, but by-and-large during the vinyl era heydey of the 60s-80s, the "LP" was a 12-inch, 33 RPM disc that stored about 25-30 minutes of music (4-5 pop songs) on each side. An "EP" was a 7-inch, 33 RPM disc that stored about 10-12 minutes (2-3 pop songs) on each side, while a "Single" was a 7-inch, 45 RPM that stored about 5 minutes (one song) on each side. Of course, there were LOTS of other formats and combinations, but those were the main ones. Once CDs became the dominant media for recorded music, those terms lost any connection to the physical media itself because CDs come in a universal size and shape (well, almost. There are some odd balls, but mostly, CD singles, CD "EP"s, and CD "LP"s were all the exact same disc). So, whether something is an LP or an EP or a Single had nothing to do with the number of minutes or the number of songs on the disc, since the downfall of the vinyl record era. In the 1990s, the term "EP" was actually partially replaced by the term "maxi-single", which was about as long as the vinyl EP was. Today, the terms are completely meaningless, and the only thing that matters is what the publisher calls it. Don't fret over the definitions and the limits and trying to compare by saying "This thing over here is an EP and is longer than this other thing over here called an LP." That path is pointless. --Jayron32 21:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Universal Pulse was released on 12-inch vinyl. EPs come in 7 10 and 12-inch versions. This 311 album could potentially fit on any of these sizes. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 21:43, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hence what I wrote above " There was, of course, some variation" and "Of course, there were LOTS of other formats and combinations". What I meant by that was that there was, of course, some variation and that there were lots of other formats and combinations than the ones I noted. Yet another reason to try to not figure it out yourself. Just go with what the record company calls it and be done with it. --Jayron32 21:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The record ccompany calls it an album and I will call it that. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 18:37, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

May 3

Film genre dealing ethnic groups

This may sound similar to a question that was asked before but this one is different. Besides Israel's Bourekas films and USA's blaxploitation films, which other nation has a film genre that deals with a specific ethnic group and their stereotypes or mainly deals with a specific ethnic group? Thanks. I watch their films that's all.--Donmust90 (talk) 01:48, 3 May 2013 (UTC)Donmust90[reply]

You may be interested in Category:Mafia films, which tend to focus on Italian-Americans. Some notable ones would be the Godfather Trilogy, Goodfellas, Mean Streets, The Untouchables, Bugsy, Carlito's Way, Donnie Brasco. --Jayron32 05:49, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly a Jewish sub-genre with Billy Crystal and Woody Allen films, again like other ethnic genres not all Italian/Jewish/Black actors are always in those type films. If you stretched it some you could create an Irish-American genre with such things as Gangs of New York, Cinderella Man, Leprechaun, etc. Also is there an evolving hispanic film genre in the US? ^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 07:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spanglish might be an example, although only some of the characters are Hispanic. Other films, like the Spy Kids series, may have a mostly Hispanic cast, but are not designed to appeal exclusively to the Hispanic market. StuRat (talk) 07:14, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In the US, you can't overlook films featuring native Americans. They tended to have absurd stereotypes, either of all native Americans being bloodthirsty savages, or, more recently, the equally absurd portrayal of them as totally at peace with everyone and at one with the environment, as in the thinly veiled portrayal of native Americans in Avatar (2009 film). StuRat (talk) 07:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rant alert: And now we have millons of people claiming to be reincarnations of noble Amerinds (that's when they're not reincarnations of noble Egyptians). And the so-called Chief Seattle speech, which is still being oh-so-reverently passed on by well-meaning people who don't know it's almost totally inauthentic. It's a latter-day version of the belief that Desiderata was found on an old Baltimore church wall dating to 1692, when it was actually written in 1927. I have no issue with the content and sentiment of these things, but we don't need to add a confected history to make them seem more sacred than they are. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 02:55, 8 May 2013 (UTC) [reply]

There is a genre of Welsh language films which might count [[Hotclaws (talk) 02:37, 11 May 2013 (UTC)]][reply]

I don't hold out much hope on this one.

I don't hold out much hope on this one but you 'entertainment' specialists have never let me down yet so it's worth a try.

The Professionals (CI5) television series had an episode where, near the beginning, Bodie was at a pub (I think) and got into a fight and was helped out by a stranger who showed that he was an unarmed combat expert. It is just possible that the stranger had the fight and Bodie came to his help. Anyway, when the two of them had seen off the attackers, they just gave each other mutually appraising looks (as it was obvious to each that the other was a trained fighter), then they each went their separate ways. Later in the episode, the stranger turns out to be one of the baddies that Bodie and Doyle have to deal with.

Can one of you geniuses identify the episode for me - either by series & episode No. or by title? I will be most grateful. Gurumaister (talk) 10:34, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe Kickback (series four, episode fourteen)? ¦ Reisio (talk) 12:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The description of Kickback on this episode guide is: "Bodie's loyalties are put to the test when an old friend tries to hire him to kill a public official." This one says: "Bodie refuses to believe a former SAS friend has joined an Italian terrorist group." Alansplodge (talk) 18:33, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Alansplodge but I'm afraid it isn't the one. Bodie and the other guy are strangers to each other when they first fight together against the attacker. It is later that Bodie sees him again as an enemy. I appreciate the try though. Gurumaister (talk) 19:28, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You could post a message to this person or have a lot of fun working your way through the videos they've uploaded. I won't link directly to them because I just don't understand copyright issues. --Dweller (talk) 13:52, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dweller . . Thanks very much; that is a useful link. And you're right, I am enjoying re-watching the videos to find the scene I want. :)) Gurumaister (talk) 15:37, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Making a new wiki page

I was wondering how I can create or ask to have made a wiki page for an artist I like — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.206.23.245 (talk) 12:51, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First, check that the artist meets the guidelines for being notable. If so, then you can create an article yourself by reading WP:YFA or asking someone else to do it at WP:RA RudolfRed (talk) 15:03, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

May 4

River of Love

The article about the George Strait song River of Love states that there is a ukulele in the song, but there is no credit for a session musician playing ukulele. When it is performed live, I noticed that it is actually a mandolin. There is a credit for a session musician playing mandolin. Should this article be changed? 108.0.244.168 (talk) 08:49, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The statement that there is a ukulele in the final recorded version of the song is not referenced, so it could reasonably be removed or changed. If the latter, the new material should be referenced. The article does contain a referenced statement about how the song was originally composed on two ukuleles; it's not an online citation but there's no reason to suppose it isn't authoritative. - Ka renjc 09:02, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How would I reference this? the album Troubadour has a credit for a musician playing mandolin, but I can't find a place where it says what instruments are used on each song on the album. I can only hear a mandolin in the recording and in live performances, as well as see it in the credits. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 09:46, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Flintstones choral finale

I remember there being a Flintstones episode which ends with a feel-good choral finale, the song reminds me of I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing (in Perfect Harmony), and it is neither the Pebbles/Bam Bam song "Let the Sun Shine In" nor the Old Mac Donald choral song. Assuming this is not a confabulation on my part, can anyone identify the song and/or episode? μηδείς (talk) 22:21, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The actual theme song was quite peppy, so could it have been some variation on that (with or without "we'll have a gay old time") ? StuRat (talk) 07:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

May 5

Plays/movies/other media with the same or a similar tradition as The Mousetrap

Agatha Christie's play The Mousetrap is (in)famous for its tradition to ask its (at least London West End) viewers to not spoil its ending to other people. Christie and her descendants have always been upset whenever the ending of the play is disclosed, especially here at the play's Wikipedia article. Since this tradition has perhaps become as much of the trademark of the play as its twist ending, I was wondering; before and/or after the premiere of The Mousetrap, have there been other plays, or otherwise TV series, movies etc. which request viewers to not reveal the ending? Or is it only The Mousetrap? The closest example I could think of is that cinemas showing Psycho did not allow people to enter once the movie had started, although of course it didn't have a screen at the credits which commands viewers to not spoil the ending to others. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 08:28, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Crying Game had a lot of fan lore about it being fantastically important not to reveal the plot twist, but I'm not sure whether the makers made any such request. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 08:36, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Do Not Spoil This Ending" (TV Tropes) has some more examples. ---Sluzzelin talk 13:50, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I remember that The Andromeda Strain (film) was released with the hype that "No one will be allowed in the theater during the last 10 (or 15 or 20 the memory is getting a bit hazy) of the film." I also remember hearing a story (I think that it was Michael Palin who told it but, again, it could be someone else) (update: My memory is now leaning towards Stephen Fry telling this story - maybe on The Graham NOrton Show) about some tourists going to see The Mousetrap who got out of their cab and tipped the cabbie poorly. Then the cabbie shouted "The ... did it" as they walked toward the theatre. MarnetteD | Talk 17:38, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

fictional talk show host

Recently, I watched an episode of Hawaii Five-0. In it, Aisha Tyler guest-starred as a fictional talk show host named Savannah Walker. There were also several members of her audience who wore Savannah Walker tee shirts. Have there been any other fictional talk show hosts on other TV shows?142.255.103.121 (talk) 20:27, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There have been several on the various U.S. iterations of Law and Order. MarnetteD | Talk 20:31, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Partridge. Mrs Merton. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 20:44, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Sanders. Highly recommended. Birch Barlow on The Simpsons. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:08, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

According to Virginia Graham's article, "in 1982, Graham played fictional talk show host Stella Stanton in the final episodes of the soap opera Texas." Clarityfiend (talk) 22:17, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Guy Smiley. Staecker (talk) 23:47, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Norman Gunston. HiLo48 (talk) 23:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On the Dick Van Dyke Show, Dick was supposedly a writer for the fictional Alan Brady Show. However, I think that was more of comedy "talk show", as in Johnny Carson, rather than a serious talk show, as in Oprah. StuRat (talk) 07:26, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't Newhart have a few different fictional TV talk show hosts, with "Michael" even running the small TV stations for a few seasons. It was kind of a running gag and plot device for the series.
Also SNL makes this one of their favorite skits, such classics as Coffee Talk and Goth Talk among others.^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 11:22, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that reminded me that the talk-show host is one of the most popular skits among comedy sketch show writers in the UK (or so it seems). The one that I'm reminded of at the moment is on Alas Smith and Jones, where two rival MPs are being interviewed: one falls dead while the other is talking, and his speech changes instantly from slagging off to a glowing obituary. --TammyMoet (talk) 14:18, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See Fernwood 2 Night. --Jayron32 14:26, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That later changed to America 2 Night.142.255.103.121 (talk) 18:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

These last two were the summer replacements for Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman so those actors could have a vacation from their 5 day a week show. They "broadcast" from Fernwood the first summer and then they Barth and Jerry and the Happy allegedly moved to LA Alta Coma CA for the second summer - thus the name change. It was truly a hilarious show and is long overdue for a DVD release. Thanks for jogging the memory about it. MarnetteD | Talk 18:40, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing.142.255.103.121 (talk) 21:43, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Mentalist has a connection with talk shows. Not only is the backstory set in motion by the main character appearing on a talk show, but a talk show featured heavily as a plot point at one time. ("Blinking Red Light" in season 4, the host being "Karen Cross".) -- 205.175.124.30 (talk) 23:58, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Make a browser search (usually Ctrl+F) for "talk show" at List of fictional television shows. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:42, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There have been a couple on Parks and Recreation. One is Ya Heard? With Perd! with host Perd Hapley. And the other is with a female host who is sort of the lead character's nemesis in the show. ~~Her name escapes me at the moment.~~ Her character's name is Joan Callamezzo and the show within the show is Pawnee Today. Dismas|^(talk) 02:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

May 6

Old stop motion short film about a doll left at playground and the journey to return home

I was born in 1953 and I remember a short stop motion film about a doll left at playground and she tries to return home and has to go through rain stormes gutters and gets help from other toys along the way. When she gets back home she sees the little girl has a new doll to replace her and she leaves and I think the little girl finds her and is very happy to have her back. not sure if the people were real or animated...seems that they were real . The doll is tattered and dirty — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.21.192.105 (talk) 00:22, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a really great story (aren't we all that doll at some point in our life lol?). No idea what film it could be but you may have luck here, also try the "short film" filter at the top left, yes those are all the possible answers but its a start in your search, best of luck! ^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 07:14, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

While it rings a bell I am not sure about the specific one you are looking for but it sure feels like the writers of "Rosebud (The Simpsons)" must have seen it. The idea isn't completely original as precursors to the short include HCA's "The Steadfast Tin Soldier". Hopefully other editors might remember the one you are looking for. MarnetteD | Talk 19:52, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Script search

I am looking for a script of the drama production One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest. Can you help or direct me to the correct place? Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ogipam (talk • contribs) 09:02, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you search for "script One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", the first two links appear to have what they claim to be scripts. The first looks more complete. I'm not going to link them because I have no idea if this is a copyright problem or not. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:53, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like such an insulated elitist having used Google now, who knows maybe wikipedia is overtaking them!^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 10:41, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just in case the OP is asking for the script to the play rather than the film you can type "script one flew over the cuckoo's nest play" and the first website that comes up is samuelfrench.com. You can purchase the script from them or you can check to see if any library in your area has a copy available. MarnetteD | Talk 19:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pokemon Species by Popularity

Hey, all! So we all know that there are many (649) species of pokemon. In order of popularity, what would be, say, the top 20? For example, can someone find an official list, or perhaps see which one has the most hits on Google (the latter method may be inaccurate, and besides, there are 649 to look up...)? I ask because I can't find out for myself, due to my restricted network only allowing Wikipedia access (it's not here, either. Perhaps someone can create a list of this sort?). Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.79.50.132 (talk) 16:45, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How are you defining popular? The one that gets caught most? The one that gets talked about most? It's hard to give an answer without some kind of definition. --Viennese Waltz 18:25, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Popular, as in: Everyone's heard of pikachu, but only fans will know about shaymin... So yes, one that is talked about most and shows up in popular culture the most. Like I said earlier, seeing how many hits one gets on google might help... --174.79.50.132 (talk) 18:27, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately that's nebulous enough that it likely wouldn't pass Wikipedia muster. The best you're likely to get by using Wikipedia only is to look at the list of Pokemon and separate out those which have their own article. (Pikachu and Bulbasaur do, Shaymin doesn't.) If that gets you more than 20, you could do a Wikipedia search and see how many different articles mention each - more mentions likely means bigger mindshare. -- 205.175.124.30 (talk) 23:51, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that if they have an article of their own, there is where you can start. If it's more than 20, you'd have to pare it down some. If less than 20, you'll have to fill in the last few yourself. But that should cut your work down from 649. Dismas|^(talk) 02:46, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

May 7

Question about Boreal Taiga music Wikipedia creation: references and acceptance of the page

Hello and thank you for your time. I am writing from the Seattle, Washington USA area.

I wanted to ask, how an article I am currently writing about an established band can be accepted by Wikipedia.

The article link is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Boreal_Taiga

The band and music has been played on national radio in the USA on several radio stations and shows which has a wide audience. The shows have archived the playlists of when it was aired. Boreal Taiga also created a soundtrack for a movie/documentary, "Landscapes At The World's Ends" of which was shown worldwide as well as the band is with ASCAP. Boreal Taiga is signed to a record label in the USA, Wayfarer Records with 5 albums currently available,as physical CD and digital formats available at online retailers such as Amazon and iTunes.

The article I wrote was not accepted so I am wondering what else can be done? I see other musicians that do not have as extensive references as Boreal Taiga being accepted of which some actually just reference their personal website as the only reference seen. If you can help me with this, I would really appreciate your time.

Thank you,

AbarisAbaris23 (talk) 07:55, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Without directly reviewing this band, I will note that you are focusing on the wrong things to try to determine the acceptability of a topic (any topic) for a Wikipedia article. It isn't based on what you can say about a subject (that is, what facts you can list off about it), rather all that matters is the amount and reliability of text written about the subject. You need to establish that people have written a lot of in-depth text about this band, and that that text has appeared in reliable sources. What the band has done is irrelevant. All that matters is what is written about them. See WP:GNG. --Jayron32 12:52, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Extinct languages in entertainment

Are there any (relatively) modern works that were recorded in a language that is now extinct? --66.190.69.246 (talk) 15:43, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The 2004 film The Passion of the Christ had dialogue mostly in a variety of Aramaic and Classical Latin, neither of which are actively spoken anymore. --Jayron32 15:58, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking more of a language that went extinct a century or two ago (but that works, too). --66.190.69.246 (talk) 16:07, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Factual and unbiased WW2 movies

Please name some World War 2 movies which are unbiased and factual and depicts both Allied and Axis perspectives in a professional manner (such as The Longest Day, Battle of Britain (film), Tora! Tora! Tora!, Enemy at the Gates, Midway (film) etc.), not jingoistic propaganda movies which depict Allied as heros and Axis as villains (such as Saving Private Ryan). --Yoglti (talk) 16:40, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]