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Portals needing attention

The decade-based portals you created a few months ago remain incomplete. I've added them to Category:Portals needing attention in the hope that you or some other editor will be motivated to finish a first complete version of them. 68.165.77.234 (talk) 10:56, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Section blanking on South Side article

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Michael Pollack

This is about the draft at User:WhisperToMe/Michael Pollack and in reply to the following post at here:

Uzma wrote here: "The draft[1] obviously was written with a number of subsections to POV promote philanthropy, views, and other aspects of Mr. Pollack that would not otherwise make it into the article or whose importance would be significantly diminished by being put into perspective were the article written to convey Pollack's life chronologically."
Please re-visit the discussion. There is no "POV promotion" going on anywhere - the reliable sources (newspaper articles from the Arizona Republic and Phoenix Business Journal) call him a philanthropist and describe his activities in detail. They discuss his childhood, they discuss his politics, and they discuss those seemingly unimportant aspects. Those sections are important because the reliable sources *say* they are important by discussing them. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:39, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your reply above is missing the all important time element. Michael Pollack lived his life chronologically. You chose to present the information in User:WhisperToMe/Michael Pollack in an order that is other than chronologically. Your motive's don't matter (so I think I concluded more than I should have in my quoted post above). However, by presenting the information in an order that is other than chronologically, philanthropy, views, and other aspects of Mr. Pollack that would not otherwise make it into the article or whose importance would be significantly diminished by being put into perspective were the article written to convey Pollack's life chronologically. The problem with the draft is the numerous of subsections. For example, his son died on September 11, 2011. The article now presents it in its own subsection. That information in the Wikipedia article should come after everything that happened in Pollack's life before September 11, 2011 and should come before everything that happened in Pollack's life after September 11, 2011. The death of his son must have had a major impact on his life and the only way that the reader can get a sense of that is if the information is in chrnological order in the Wikipedia article.

To address the POV bias issues, opinions about Pollack by Arizona Republic, Phoenix Business Journal, etc. need to be presented, if at all, 1. chronologically in the biography as of the date they were published 2. in a way that limits the opinion's geographic applicability. You write, "Michael Pollack is politically conservative." Really? Where is your source saying that Michael Pollack is politically conservative as of 12:27, 17 December 2012 (UTC) (as of when I read what you wrote?). I think you mean Michael Pollack has been politically conservative." Also, Michael Pollack being politically conservative is an opinion, not a fact capable of being proven true or false. In addition, why are you telling the reader what to think (e.g., that Michael Pollack is politically conservative)? The Wikipedia article reader should be able to get a sense that he is politically conservative from the Wikipedia article, but only if his being politically conservative matters. As another example, you write, "Michael Pollack is a drummer in "A Corporate Affair," a twelve piece R&B/rock/soul band." The source you cite does not support that statement. The source would only support a statement such as, "As of December 7, 2007, Michael Pollack was a drummer in "A Corporate Affair," a twelve piece R&B/rock/soul band."[1] And if you can't tie his drum playing to his career at least in some small way (e.g., his co-workers/employees are members of the band, he landed the x account because of being in the band) or his life events happening around December 2007 (e.g., In December 2007, he was in a band, in January 2008, his wife filed for divorce/his business went down the tubes/he met his wife while playing a gig), then maybe that factoid should not be in the Wikipedia article.

To address the POV issue, I suggest having only two sections in your biography: Early Life and Career. Then, take each sentence in your draft an rearrange them in the chronological order that Pollack experienced it in his life. Once you finish the early life and career section, then, an only then, write the lead paragraph. You can see an example of this at David Marchick. For that article, I gathered all my research into one Microsoft Word document, then proceeded to write sentences from each reference. The very first sentence I wrote in that article was, "When he was 22, Marchick graduated from the University of California, San Diego in 1988." That came from the earliest dated reference used in that article (May 28, 1988). The last thing I wrote was the lead paragraph.

The above points are more about nit picking than a basis to keep the article from article space. However, as for the DRV, DGG's opinion carries weight and you need to do something different with the draft other than you currently are doing. Putting everything in chronological order might be what's needed. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:27, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply.[2] I disagree that you should continue to have a personal life section in the draft, because that will allow you to avoid making decision as to what events in his life are important and will move the information in an order that is different from how he lived his life. I also do not agree that an article written in 2007 could support a claim that Pollack is a drummer in a band as of 2012. Regarding, "I chose to say "he is politically conservative" because he is proclaimed as such." Your choosing to present opinion as fact does not make it fact. It makes it POV. As I posted above, these are not what is keeping the draft from Article space. You should address DGG's concerns posted in the DRV because that is largely what the close of the DRV noted. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:59, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Presenting HK's status

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Re: Bengali School Article

I am ashamed for my inconsiderate behaviour, yes, I do have the required tool to type Bengali for a couple of months now (most probably from the end of November last). I assure you to give at least one of your requested article topmost priority right now. But please request an article of which I can easily translate the tile. The articles you request, I generally face a very hard time to choose Bengali article title. Which article you want to see in Bengali now? --Tito Dutta (talk) 04:50, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bengali New York education

I have started here bn:নিউ ইয়র্ক সিটি ডিপার্টমেন্ট অফ এডুকেশন. The main ref of the English Wikipedia article is not opening for me and there are few more dead links there! I'll start the Detroit article too very soon. --Tito Dutta (talk) 07:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WT:INB might be helpful too for this question! --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:14, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. Gdibyendy or Dwaipayanc will reply there now, I think! --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:02, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Khabele School

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Re: Peel District

I have not seen WT:INB still, working on a newly created article in English Wikipedia. Detroit article is in my task list this week (i.e. before 19 Jan). I have not included Peel District article in my task list still! --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:26, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen the RDL either (in short I am not checking the watchlist for some time now to concentrate on the new article) :) --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:29, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Nrisingha Prasad Bhaduri

This article in DYK queue for a long time now. I have fixed all other issues, can you please read the article once and make necessary wording changes? --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:32, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's all for now, though I have done some copyediting recently! --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:38, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I have given attribution here --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:02, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have started..

this article --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:55, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is damn difficult to translate a US school article in Bengali, you stumble in every sentence. Really. For example, "school district board", no translation in Bengali, what I wrote in Bengali that means "a very large governing body"! Furthermore, I assure you, no one reads these articles! --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:09, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In case if you feel I had been lazy to write your articles, let me inform you most probably you remember I told you I had my own articles those I wanted to create in Bengali, I have not created those articles too still (I have 7 articles in task list, no planing still)! --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:12, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No. We have articles in English! Do you nominate your new articles to DYK? You should, if you not... --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:16, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
They definitely don't search Google in Bengali. And might be an interesting fact, we don't have too many/any article(s) of our own city schools in Bengali Wikipedia! --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:25, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

B

Biography might be easier for me or film articles or books. But, school, cities, these are very difficult to translate. Google translator also does not help! --

It looks perfect! I can create an article on him if you want, let me know.. (BTW, I am not a Bangladeshi), how do you pronounce "a" in his name a) "Hyansen" ("a" as in "cat") or b) "Huhnsen" ("u" as in "cut")? --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:36, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Prida

Hello. In regards to my edit of the Prida page, I read an online article that said she died of heart failure. I can no longer find the article on her page, so I am satisfied with the newer edits made regarding her death being caused by unknown causes. Thank you for your question, and for your good faith edits. AlaskaMike (talk) 23:03, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: School district

I'll write the other two articles agter 9th og next months. In Bengali we don't have such category, but, I can create one, I am bit confused on translation of "school district"! --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:02, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here one bn:বিষয়শ্রেণী:মার্কিন যুক্তরাষ্ট্রের শিক্ষা ব্যবস্থা --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:09, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Eng: Detroit Government Schools! --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:22, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ya, that's what it is written there: Rights and responsibilities of Government schools of Detorit (it seems they also face trouble to translate)! --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:33, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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my poor editing skills on Guam Adventist Academy

Sorry. I was the one who removed the sentence at Guam Adventist Academy about the Windward Hills campus being adjacent to the Windward Hills Golf Club. Looking back on that edit, I'm not sure why I did it. Being new to Wiki at the time, perhaps I thought it was a WP:NOADVERTISING issue. Regardless, I'm glad you rv the edit. Sprinkler21 (talk) 07:13, 8 February 2013 (UTC)Sprinkler21[reply]

DYK for Nrisingha Prasad Bhaduri

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Koidzumi Dzsunicsiró?

Hi WhisperToMe. Where ザー ファック (zā fakku) did that romanization come from? It looks like something a C16 Portuguese Jesuit might have written. --Shirt58 (talk) 09:50, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's the Hungarian romanization WhisperToMe (talk) 01:51, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And there it is. Thanks for pointing that out.--Shirt58 (talk) 09:12, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ancora Imparo. I've just learned the origin of the motto of Monash University. Ancora Imparo.--Shirt58 (talk) 09:36, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Need an advice. Badly.

(We met on my page in the Russian WP about Gosavianadzor and Greg Feith). Sorry if this annoys you, but I'm not sure who to ask and you seem to be an administrator here so maybe YOU know. I'm being harrassed by admins of the Russian WP. I've been blocked THREE TIMES for the past 5 days. The last time - just a few minutes ago for posting a complaint about one of the admins. And for daring to complain about THAT on my own page, I'm being threatened right now to be blocked "for trolling". They are basically looking for excuses and slightest violations to block me. The reason is my "war" against favoritism and some animals being more equal than others in Ru-WP. And it's getting worse by the day. I can't do ANYTHING without being blocked or at the very least threatened to be blocked. Nearly every single post or complaint or any message to admins from me ends up with me being blocked. What would you suggest I do? If you care to suggest anything at all. :-) AND if there anything I CAN do. BadaBoom (talk) 19:17, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be too much to ask you to read this? I understand that you have much more interesting things to do so I'll understand if you just say "no". I'll hate you for the rest of my life, but I'll understand. :-) Do you think I have a case for RfC? BadaBoom (talk) 12:09, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Deletion of Template:Editnotices/Page/Emory University

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Re:Colton Pitonyak

I don't remember that particular deletion, but I'm happy to take a quick look at a draft. J Milburn (talk) 13:45, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At a glance (I've not looked too deeply) it looks OK on BLP grounds; perhaps removing the high schools would be an idea, unless they're relevant. I've certainly got no objection to it being moved into the mainspace if you're happy with it. J Milburn (talk) 20:43, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Bang Kapi District

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HK is not a separate nationality

You see, we're Hong Kong residents but still Chinese citizens. Nationality is 'the legal relationship between an individual human and a Nation state.' When we fill out forms, the nationality is always 'Chinese', not 'Hong Kong'. Kayau (talk · contribs) 12:29, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Hi Whisper, there is a guy on the Algeria article who is really keen on removing the French name of the country from the lede. I had already warned him not to do so on his talk page but he did the same again just a few hours ago (and removed the notes from the wikicode too). I didn't revert him yet as perhaps it would be better if an admin dealt with him this time, so I thought I'd let you know. Cheers, eh bien mon prince (talk) 01:34, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Aires Flight 8250

Thanks for your kind correction. I would like to inform you that although is normal practice not to blame pilots in an accident, it is not that normal to exculpate pilots. The comments made by Aeronaútica Civil representative were highly controversial in Colombia because he contradicted himself in press interviews, firstly denying any human error and then refusing to answer when confronted with new evidence that blamed the accident on, precisely, human error. There was a civil suit at that moment that hinged on this evidence, hence the adjective "curious" that I added to his comments. FYI, the judge decided there was a civil responsibility that couldn't have been apportioned had the accident happened because of "an act of God", opposite to an untrained crew crashing an airplane (crew that had to be retrained about how to land an aircraft in a storm!). Have a nice day, by all means.--Ciroa (talk) 11:04, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


I appreciate your comment on my page about being a prerequisite for using in Wikipedia the word "curious" to find beforehand "an RS or columnist/journalist who says "this is strange/curious". I would be most grateful if you directed me to the Wikipedia policy that states such curious prerequisite to the use of the word "curious". :)

I agree with you on being normal practice not to blame pilots in an accident without firm research: it is not that normal to exculpate pilots in the same way. I think that what we have here is an article written hours after the happening, article that was not edited later by using more information available.

Let me give you some, because I find much more useful to work as a team using our respective talk pages to reach a common conclusion, instead of contradicting each other in the Wikipedia page where our discrepancies are stated. That attitude, I believe, makes a better encyclopedia and, as I said, that's why I appreciate your very civil comments.

I also believe this is an encyclopedia, not a newspaper, and thus, filled with qualifications about things that happen in this wide world. If you claim that the policy of having a source for a phrase implicate that it is forbidden to use adjectives not used by the source, well, good luck with your editing: it will never end. Frankly and with all due respect, Wikipedia would be converted in Wikinews, or worse yet, in Wikiquotes.

On the point you make of a "controversy occurring" around the Aires Flight 8250, you can find here that there was not such thing, from my POV: I think a controversy requires that two people disagree on a point that cannot be judged with certainty.

What you could find (if you read Spanish, sorry) is a wild speculation one hour after the accident on the part of Colonel Carrascal (whose coment I dare to qualify as "curious"): he claimed, against all current practices of accident research, that this accident wasn't the pilot's fault, while the official conclusion of Colonel Silva Rueda, the person in charge of the investigation that lasted for a year was that "it has been concluded that the case that we worked on is a CFIT event (which is a controlled flight into the terrain), where it was proved that there were no failures of the airplane nor in the airport or aeronautic systems. The report indicates as a cause (of accident) an approach below the correct angle, due to an altitude estimation error, and an incorrect use of cockpit resources... Based on the final report of this investigation (which lasted for 11 months), it will be determined later on eventual responsibilities and penalties to be imposed on the air carrier and the airplane pilot".

I would like you to point me to any accident in which authorities like Mr. Carrascal claimed to know the causes and who was to blame (or not) minutes after the accident. As you correctly state, it's not the current practice of aviation authorities to do such a thing. If that's not curious, I wonder what is.

You can check here how funny is for the pilot to claim that the aircraft was hit by lightning while the copilot says he saw not such lightning but an "uncontrolled descent of the aircraft" executed by the pilot against his advice (hence Mr. Silva conclusions about the pilot not using "all cockpit resources", that is, the copilot disagreement on the approach path).

How Mr. Carrascal reached a different conclusion (being a friend of the pilot beforehand) in such a short time and qualified the pilot of "hero" is not curious but preposterous and, I respectfully believe, an attitude bordering crime and collusion. As Mr. Carrascal's comment were quietly waved away by investigators (which were worried about the accident itself and not the rush he made to exculpate his friend), I used no stronger words.

The fact that a judge disproved the pilot and adjudicated a civil suit to the passengers subjected to this pilot's lack of ability, as well as the official conclusions of the accident researchers that had access to the instrument recordings, is a proof of the truth of the copilot statements.

The very strange declarations of the pilot to the press minutes after the accident, pacing nervously the landing strip in front of the wreckage, with wild eyes open, in a (sorry, I do not want to offend you by using the same word again, but...) very curious public declarations about how the storm "grabbed (them) with everything it had" and how he tried and tried to pull the aircraft up against a downdraft can be read here. Instrument recordings proved he was blatantly lying.

As I've never re-edited an edition made by a fellow Wikipedian, I respectfully ask you to reconsider your corrections in light of the information I provide.

Frankly, from my POV, what we have here, after reading extensively about the accident in my native language the reports of the local press and following the civil suit and the research with interest for a year, is a pilot lying, helped by his "compadre" Mr. Carrascal.

I think that the way you edited the article makes the reader believe that what happened is an uncertainty, where no firm conclusions were reached. I see that as "unencyclopedic". I believe that you would do a favor to Wikipedia if you correct the article a bit, as I tried to do.

I sincerely tried to whisper (instead of yelling and arguing) while writing this comment: have a nice day, WhisperToMe. I wish you always have happy edits, by all means, "compadre".--Ciroa (talk) 11:49, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The essay here [4] says "Red links should be avoided unless they are very likely to be developed into articles, and even if they do, editors are encouraged to write the article first." (they wikilink that essay) As I said, the intention is to aid in navigation. If there is nothing to navigate to, then it really is premature. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:55, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Saul High School of Agricultural Sciences

Congratulations on a great set of redirects! Stub-sorting it I checked to see that there was a link from the formal title given in the lead ... and saw the lot. Brilliant. PamD 08:20, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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There are a few examples in Commons:Category:Videos of sign language, but there doesn't appear to be any real community behind it (actually, it looks like Tamil Sign Language is way ahead of ASL on Commons!). I see you've already asked on WikiProject Deaf, and that's probably the best that can be done, except maybe going through Category:User ase semi-randomly. Besides that, I would say maybe look for help from organizations off-wiki.--Pharos (talk) 00:13, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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CIA

Hi WhisperToMe!!!! I was off from wikipedia because of Norooz, now I came back. But still I can't write anything on CIA because of that I live in Middle-East!!!! I hope you can understand. If There is any other topic that I can help in don't hesitate to tell me. Happy Norooz!!! medee (talk) 18:32, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Untied

Many thanks for creating the initial entry. I don't want to step on your toes but I've made several edits to correct errors in chronology (a more definitive timeline is available from untied.com/site). I have no experience editing Wikipedia so I'll follow your lead in terms of layout/organization. Jcooperstock (talk) 21:24, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Bacliff, Texas

Bayshorebabydoll (talk) 02:07, 18 April 2013 (UTC) Let me break this down for you, since we seem to have a miscommunication on what constitues an opinion. I have carefully gone through the article in question and identified several areas that are opinion and others that are not factually correct. Gator Miller is not the publisher of the Seabreeze News. The existence of such a person is questionable at best The statement – “the overall impression of the town is that much of it is a white ghetto almost as hardcore as the roughest parts of Houston's South Park or Fifth Ward” is an opinion The statement – “Lou's, the town's one true grocery store, is well stocked with booze, cigarettes and canned food, but offers little else other than wilted vegetables and whole aisles of all-but-bare shelves” is an opinion The statement – “For such a small town, Bacliff has an astounding number of bars. In fact, its ratio of taverns-to-citizens rivals those of many hard-drinking British seaside resorts” is factually incorrect. YP.com shows Bacliff has only 5 true bars. Several of these appear to be closed. The quotation - ["This is the only town I know that has churches next to bars that are next to gambling halls, and then repeat that all over town," says local resident Jack Nelson.] is factually incorrect. YP.com lists 9 churches in Bacliff. A Google Maps search shows that not all of these listed exist, and of those that do, none of them are located next to bars. According to Miller, September 11, 2004, was a historic day for Bacliff and San Leon. A town hall meeting was held in which the citizenry demanded local officials clean up the town – cannot find a record of this meeting The statement – “Miller said that many people in the town, himself included, want to be allowed to drink, smoke weed and gamble with abandon, but they want the line drawn at crack and meth “– this is an opinion by one alleged resident of the area[reply]

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Yes my friend I am interested in writing this article ...But what is the location that you want to tell me with him on the subject (London Transport) with regards Ahmad.aea.99 (talk) 09:49, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No problem. Lemme know what should be added to the intro the make it substantial. Rebel shadow 20:30, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Your proposal

Hi,

Thank you for making the proposal. However I cannot accept the proposal because what he did was unacceptable from Wikipedia standards.

From my experience on other so-called 'muslim' Wikipedias (ie. where islam is the main religion of the population), I have never ever encountered such intolerance before.

User:Si Gam cannot be trusted to keep his word. Looking at history, the Aceh people do not have any reputation of keeping their word (just look at the treason of Teuku Umar. the Dutch army had helped arm this person and guess what? He betrayed and turned against them).

User:Si Gam was granted sysop priviledges from a Dutch steward and now he is acting whichever way he likes and deleting articles whenever he feels like it - based on concocted reasoning. His credibility is now Nil.


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From your comment, I can take a conclusion that you support Dutch colonialism in Aceh. -- Si Gam (talk) 10:59, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Do you know that Aceh Sultanate is one among first states that recognized Dutch Republic independence from Spanish in 1602? And then in 1873, the Netherlands attacked Aceh to colonialize it. So who is the real betrayer now? -- Si Gam (talk) 20:18, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Would you mind moving this to another talk page? Actually, on Wikipedia it's best not to bring up those historical/ethnic arguments, or just ignore them on here. You are welcome to use private e-mail if you want to discuss historical debates that don't have to do with improving Wikipedia. Let's try to keep the conversation within certain bounds. Thanks! WhisperToMe (talk) 20:37, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I just answer his accusation. -- Si Gam (talk) 11:25, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Wikilove is in SERIOUS need of some more ethnic food and drink items - would love to send a more Texas-relevant food but don't care to send beer!

Just saw the new wikilove feature and immediately knew the two fellow editors on which a little should be lavished. :) P.S. I did take pictures of WTW and Hillcrest HS at one point, as well as Marsh Middle, but don't know *what* I did with ém. Will try to dig 'em up at some point. Best wishes ... Lawikitejana (talk) 21:49, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! Im intersted

Hi!

I heard you speak Twi/Akan. Are you interested in writing an article in that language on en:Peel District School Board? That school system gets immigrants who speak Akan. It has a website in that language Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 19:24, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I will be interested in doing translations and or writing articles for your school. You do a good job in putting our language out there so nicely. Its a great effort and I appreciate that effort. You can see an example of one of my translated work that featured on the Wikimedia blog.
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/08/31/ghanaian-wikimedia-chapter/
Thanks for contacting me and I hope to hearing from you soon.
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okay boss, will work on them quickly soon and send to you. Thanks --Nkansahrexford (talk) 22:40, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Worked on the introductory part. Akan Wikipedia of Peel District School Board --Nkansahrexford (talk) 00:32, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Translating exactly external links wouldn't make enough sense, so simply saying "kan pii ka ho" which means "read more" is okay.

In other words , you can say "nkekaho" which means "extension" or "extensive" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nkansahrexford (talk • contribs) 00:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed deletion of Kirby: Right Back at Ya!

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Nomination of Kirby: Right Back at Ya! for deletion

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