User talk:Fred Bokker
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My article has been deleted without giving notice so I have not even saved it. The editor, which deleted it, noticed that an article with the same name had been deleted in 2009. But a lot has occurred in the life of the photographer Errol Sawyer since 2009. The publication of his book 'City Mosaic,' important reviews of his work, new links and references etc. How can an editor just delete an article without having read it accurately? Can you please find it, review it and put it back on. Fred Bokker (talk) 20:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
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Errol Sawyer
Hi Fred Bokker, as requested at the Teahouse I have reviewed your article and you have made an excellent start. These are my thoughts;
- the sentence " At Mickey Ruskin’s club Max’s Kansas City, where he was a regular visitor, he met Jimi Hendrix, Robert Rauschenberg, Larry Rivers, Claes Oldenburg, Andy Warhol and Diane Arbus who made a portrait of Errol in her studio" seems to be puff - see WP:PUFF
- under Early Life, the second paragraph needs further citations.
- I believe there are too many quotes - see WP:QUOTEFARM. The article will flow better if the quotes are reduced and paraphrased, especially the first quote which is very long.
- Errol Sawyer's website is a self-published source and an independent reference would be better - see WP:BLPSPS
- the paragraph that begins "In 1978, Sawyer returned to New York" needs a citation.
- I'm not sure listing so many exhibitions and collections is necessary.
I hope this is of some help to you. Happy editing Flat Out let's discuss it 11:37, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- The submitted draft for this article can now be found at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Errol Sawyer Rankersbo (talk) 12:30, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- PS The draft you did as your user page can be found at User:Fred Bokker/Errol Sawyer (draft) if you need any of the info on it. Rankersbo (talk) 12:35, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Regarding your question at the Teahouse, it's best not to rely on just one or two sources. Have a look at Bon Scott, its not a bio of living person but its a good example of multiple sources. One reference could be used for almost the entire article (Ref 1) but as you will see there are 31 other sources. Using single sources does not meet WP:BLP so your current approach is better. Flat Out let's discuss it 13:11, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your criticism. I have improved the references: made them more objective. Fred Bokker (talk) 17:17, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- You are more than welcome, good luck with your article and please feel free to ask me any further questions on my talk page. Flat Out let's discuss it
An editor just deleted my article without any discussion. His only reason for this was the fact that an article of Errol Sawyer had been deleted in 2009. But the article I made has valid links and deserves to be in Wiki. What is wrong? How can this happen? Can you help me to get it back in Wiki? Where is my article? Fred Bokker (talk) 15:52, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
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