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Hello, Darkness Shines. You have new messages at Malik Shabazz's talk page.
Message added 02:53, 28 May 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Would someone be so kind to write thank you across to Malik's talk page for me? Darkness Shines (talk) 06:37, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:28, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Nangparbat

[1] Please revert and block. Darkness Shines (talk) 11:13, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

I reverted few of them, I just felt that the rest can stay.-sarvajna (talk) 11:25, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Blocked. I'll let others handle the reverts. Qwyrxian (talk) 11:33, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you guys, if any passing admin feels like unblocking me it would be appreciated, working on articles offline is a pain But for now, a nice cold pint awaits me. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:04, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Unblock II

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Darkness Shines (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Purely punitive, I already said I was wrong in what I had said. Darkness Shines (talk) 4:24 pm, Today (UTC−4)

Decline reason:

I'm going to decline this Darkness per Dennis above. While I think two weeks is excessive for this sort of thing, I think you have to throw yourself at the blocking admins mercy if you want to be unblocked earlier. If not, enjoy the chilled (you can't be in England!) beer again and again. regentspark (comment) 22:28, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

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Quite clearly not punitive - it's protecting the project from you going off and calling people nationalists and/or pricks. We have a concept of escalating blocks - as you well know - to prevent repeat offenders. Clearly, longer protection is needed since this keeps happening again and again and again. If this was the first time, you might be forgiven quickly (✉→BWilkins←✎) 22:18, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

BTW, DS, I modified your 'awareness' note here. If you preferred the original wording, let me know and I'll revert. --regentspark (comment) 00:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

That's fine mate. Re your unblock notice, I am not about to beg to be unblocked it has been three months since I last lost my temper and cussed someone out so the block is obviously punitive. Personally I thought I had improved upon my demeanour a great deal since I flipped at andy. Darkness Shines (talk) 05:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree that two weeks is excessive. Escalating blocks should be applied only when incivility is used to harass or intimidate which was not the case here. 24 hours would have been more appropriate but, as with everything, there are differing opinions on how to deal with the f word and the p word so ....!

That and the fact Bwil is not my biggest fan Darkness Shines (talk) 14:06, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Wow, are you suggesting that I have something against you, or are actually holding some form of grudge? I cannot fathom where a lie bizarre concept like that would come from (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:52, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Of course not, it's a joke. Darkness Shines (talk) 15:55, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

In view of the fact you called me a liar above (you wrote the strike same time as you did the post, so it is obvious what you meant) and now seem to think my pointing out a sockpuppet, section blanking and asking someone to say thank you is "distasteful" then I figure you do not have a high opinion of me at all. Darkness Shines (talk) 21:23, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Darkness Shines (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I have already said I was wrong and am not about to fly off the handle again anytime soon, can I at least be unblocked and allowed to work in userspace till such a time as an admin says I may return to mainspace? I would also appreciate the chance to rebut the ridiculous accusation of sockpuppetry which is being made against me. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:57, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Decline reason:

There is a good deal of truth in what you say, and I have no reason to think that the disruptive behaviour will continue now. However, we have to consider not only of now, but of the future. Looking at the history of the incident, I see that it was not just an unfortunate reaction on the spur of the moment. In the first instance, it was more than one incident, involving more than one other editor, but also, and more importantly, when your actions were criticised, you persisted in your unconstructive attitude, and, even when given more than enough opportunities to cool down, you chose to continue being defiant, uncivil, and contentious. In view of your history, I do not think that it would convey the right message to show you that you can repeatedly push until you are blocked, knowing that each time you will either be given a very short block, or else the block will be retracted or shortened, provided that you say after the event that you won't do it again "anytime soon". It is more likely to protect the project in the long run to let you learn that such behaviour will lead to a block which will stick, as that may perhaps encourage you to stop and think before the situation reaches the point of a block. For that reason, I think that in this case escalating blocks are appropriate. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

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Fair enough, would you be so kind as to remove these personal attacks which have again been restored. Darkness Shines (talk) 21:13, 29 May 2013 (UTC)