Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Atlan
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Looks like an advertisement. Lacks notability as per WP:MUSBIO. Sources are either/and primary, biased or insignificant secondary. Ad Orientem (talk) 23:47, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. czar · · 05:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. czar · · 05:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - Doesn't meet N or GNG. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:43, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi everybody! I am the author of the article. When I saw the tags I read a little bit about the guidelines and I understood many things, some other I would like you to explain me a little bit more. So far I have to say: It's true that the article may seem more from a fan's point of view, rather than a neutral point of view, because I am a fan of this musician since some time ago. But it's definitely not an advertisement! Okay so, I will then proceed to delete and correct all the things that may not seem neutral. If you find more things that I didn't, please let me know, thanks!
Regarding the additional sources for verification, I will try to look for them and give as many as I can. That shouldn't be hard hopefully. What I didn't understand completely is the primary sources thing, could you let me know a little bit more about it? I didn't really understand it, and would appreciate it! Thank you
Finally, regarding the notability, I gave a read to the WP:MUSBIO and while it says that it needs to meet at least one of the following criteria, it actually meets more at least three!
-Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself"': Joe Atlan has appeared multiple times in newspaper articles, magazines, and online versions of print media. I will try to introduce more references to this in the article.
-Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country: The musician participated in an international concert tour with Timo Tolkki, I will introduce sources and maybe pictures that were published.
-"Has won or placed in a major music competition.": Atlan was one of the winners in Youfestalent as it says in the article, a competition open to the whole world organized by Youtube that allows the winners to play on stage with renown artists like Sungha Jung or Rick Astley. Link to Youfest site.
Anyways, as I said, I will try to improve the article now. I would appreciate that someone helped me correcting it instead of marking it for deletion, it's very easy to just delete something! Thanks in advance!--Tolkki4Win (talk) 12:42, 9 June 2013 (UTC)