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Altaic languages Needs Admin Help

Hi Ymblanter,

I'm the one who started this thread on the Altaic languages article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Altaic_languages_Warring

Unfortunately nothing actually got resolved.

The whole point is that good editors can't do anything at the article because there's a gang controlling it. They just refuse to provide any references and edit-war the article to their liking.

Also your referral to "Fringe Theories" is not quite right — their position is scientific, just not a very widely-accepted one, and they're trying to dominate the article with it.

The article also got locked in the bad version for a week to make matters worse.

Wikipedia (not me, dying to wash my hands of this) needs an admin to give some attention to a blatantly distortionary, kidnapped, article:

  • Minimum -- "controversial subject" banner across the top that only admins can remove (hopefully says "Reason: Inclusion of Korean and Japanese in Altaic not widely accepted")
  • More -- review my NPOV version with me, compare to sources, touch up, super-lock, ban evil editors.
  • Most -- go through lengthy "moderator" process in the article's Talk section.

Sorry to bother you personally, but you're the one who closed the Admin Noticeboard thread, and I'm finding a distinct lack of official process for pursuing this necessary pursuit further. I see you're a new admin. If there's another admin I should talk to just let me know.

Wikipedia Thanks You — 98.180.19.232 (talk) 11:38, 7 April 2013 (UTC)AltaicNPOV[reply]

This is a content dispute, and admins have nothing to say in content disputes, not more than any other editors. This is why ANI discussion became useless after the page got protected. We can only perform administrative actions such as blocking or page protection, but we can not really decide on content. I see that there is discussion going on the talk page, and let it go on until consensus is found. Btw I would appreciate if you stop evading your block.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:42, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

But the point is they are violating the basic Wikipedia content principal by writing an article without references to back it up. What if a gang of creationists takes over a human evolution article and re-writes it to say Darwin is a former theory now proven wrong — without any references. Every time someone tries to correct this, they reverse it. There are more of them than the editors trying to fix the article, so the good editors get banned for "edit warring". The article is giving blatantly distorted information to the public, and any admin can see this. I know that admins very much do get involved in "content" for biographies of living people.

Is there some higher level of appeal for article issues, above the Admin Noticeboard? I'm aware of the major dispute resolution process where the Wikipedia board gets involved, but hope I don't have to go that far!

Thanks, 98.180.19.232 (talk) 12:28, 7 April 2013 (UTC)AltaicNPOV[reply]

Also I'm pretty sure I've seen "Controversial Subject" banners that only admins can remove (?). — 98.180.19.232 (talk) 12:36, 7 April 2013 (UTC)AltaicNPOV[reply]
You could try Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard, but not before the talk page discussion gets stale.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:51, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you! Just a comment that it would have been good to have gotten referred to Dispute Resolution (or to Formal Mediation and Arbitration which I'm also now finding) when I first posted the issue to the Admin Noticeboard — if nothing could actually be done to help there.

It's been a very lengthy and unpleasant experience trying to deal with this, and few other people would go through the trouble — especially not for a problem article they just noticed in passing while browsing around Wikipedia! Which leaves all those gang-controlled distorted Wikipedia articles up.

Can you personally undo the block on the User:AltaicNPOV account, or make a request to someone in charge of that, vouching for me — you know I'm only trying to be constructive here on Wikipedia, but this is time-consuming and difficult to explain and document.

And I'm finding illogical/arbitrary/unexplained admin behavior, with no appeal, and further arbitrary blocking preventing appeals, to be the norm in this Franz Kafka story... I mean this process of dealing with Wikipedia administration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.13.177 (talk) 15:56, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, I am sorry, I promised not to deal with blocks on my RFA. The easies is to sit out the block and then act. Or otherwise to ask to be unblocked at the talk page of your main account.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:04, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Some mad vindictive admin has blocked that account for eternity. Do you have any admin friends who might be able to help? I'm doing none of this for myself you know, and the article actually is a distortion (as you mention in your referral to Fringe Theories) — that in addition to me every other Wikipedian who becomes aware of this should be trying to do something about. Could you maybe bring the issue to a private admin discussion area, refer it to your "supervisor" (?!), etc.?
It's really a problem as otherwise I'll have to wait a while and come back with a new account, can't cite my previous efforts etc. Looking like I'll just drop the issue. Leaving a bad article up permanently. It's the lack of enthusiasm to prevent that which is so mystifying me about admins. Why volunteer for Wikipedia if you aren't passionate about Wikipedia articles? Yes, I'm getting around to asking if you might like to take on dealing with reforming the Altaic Languages article yourself so I can go on with my life :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.13.177 (talk) 16:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I do not have friends, and as a matter of principle I am not on IRC or whatever. Please post an unblock notice on your talk page.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I'll try that... maybe. Not quite convinced you couldn't do something with the article block and/or a "controversial" banner, but thanks anyway for discussing the matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.13.177 (talk) 17:14, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Просьба

Ярослав, здравствуйте. Прошу удалить эту страницу (мне не нужна). Заранее спасибо. — Stas1995 (talk) 14:34, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Удалил/ done--Ymblanter (talk) 14:36, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good move, thanks

For the PP on Dépardieu, just about to go off-wiki and I really think this person needs to take it to talk where, IMHO, it is very unlikely that this material be approved for the article. CaptainScreebo Parley! 17:18, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Project for RfA nominators

As one of the supporters of the proposal in the 2013 RfC on RfA reform, you are invited to join the new WikiProject for RfA nominators. Please come and help shape this initiative. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 18:52, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I will have a look, though I feel it is definitely too early for me.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:03, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ruswelcome

Hi, Yaroslav! Just so you know, we have a {{Ruswelcome}} template, which is a modification of the standard welcome template that also mentions WP:RUSSIA; it's useful in welcoming editors who are interested in Russian topics. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 18, 2013; 17:38 (UTC)

Right, I should have known that, since this is what I got from you. Thanks for reminding.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:40, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pruning the list of seas...

Hi there Ymblanter, good to meet you. I think we will need to work further on the list of seas (which just makes clear the weaknesses of the list that was there before, I didn't add any seas to it). We could split off Mediterranean from Atlantic; we could remove many of the Bays; ... and I suspect there are gaps, also. All the best --- Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:56, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the only way to get a comprehensible list is to find a source which lists them all, like a big atlas. I will see what can be done.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:00, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Leonid Jacobson

Спасибо. --Lawrentia (talk) 19:26, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Не за что, я пока ничего не сделал, и сегодня и не сделаю.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:28, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Во-первых, уже что-то сделали - редиректы на другие языки. Во-вторых, спасибо за готовность помочь. Уже тоже не в первый раз. И я этому очень рада. Вы знаете, что я хочу сказать. Я, правда, очень рада. Так что при всех случаях - большое спасибо. А статья эта должна быть. Вы сами увидете, когда прочитаете - если прорветесь через мой английский. Еще раз спасибо. --Lawrentia (talk) 19:36, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    • Ярослав, спасибо. Можно еще, наверно, взять фотографию – есть вот тут: http://pavelbers.com/Michail%20Barichnikov%20Vestris.htm А еще я нашла видеоролик на английском языке – где Барышников и Якобсон готовят номер "Вестрис": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-467XS3Vt0 – может, как-то можно поставить видеоролик в статью или хотя бы проставить ссылку? Спасибо еще раз и извините, что я вас так задергала уже не первый раз. Lawrentia (talk) 19:32, 23 April 2013 (UTC) Я очень рада нашей дружбе, я расцениваю именно так. И очень вам благодарна. И еще я вижу, что имею дело с очень грамотным администратором. --Lawrentia (talk) 19:32, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      Давайте по порядку - сначала сделаем статью, потом будем разбираться с иллюстрациями. Там нет простого ответа, надо смотреть лицензии и ролик, потом сделаем. Пока у меня и текст довольно тяжело идёт, Вы его слишком эмоционально нагрузили.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:36, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Да, я видела - вы пытаетесь разгрузить от эмоций, а у меня там захлест - и есть от чего. Я еще не знаю, как объяснить, что такое Кремлевская больница. Спасибо. Lawrentia (talk) 19:39, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assa River (Russia)

Hi, can you expand this?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:11, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is in the register, meaning it is easily doable. Will do a bit later.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:41, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Done--Ymblanter (talk) 16:22, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Arlene's Grocery

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Articles on the Yuri Gadyukin hoax

Not sure if you knew, but you were outed by name on a recent article at The Daily Dot about the Yuri Gadyukin hoax. It was also picked up by The Verge. Didn't see any other notes on your page, so I thought I'd let you know, just in case this article wasn't written with your cooperation. czar · · 03:13, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I didn't see that the name was common knowledge. Anyway, a news story in tribute to you—thought you should know. czar · · 03:17, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen it, thanks. No, I did not participate in any way, just randomly found by searching Internet for my own name. Giving the name is indeed no problem.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Malana Lea

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Malana Lea. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

I wish to appeal the closure of the debate. Someone pulled notability inheritance idea completely out of the blue and did not debate the "Merge" response I presented to counter the notablility is not inherited "charge". The broken links and long list of movies and TV appearances were also not commented on by random editors who wrote "Delete". Step one is to debate with you. Then I would like to move on to the formal process. Jok2000 (talk) 18:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Since I do not see how I ave broken the policy, the editors who voted were not SPAs, and you were the only one to oppose (though indeed a very vocal one), we better move straight to the formal process. I would not object creating a redirect though.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the error made is that you think the page "Elizabeth Tsing" exists. It does not, this would be the first page for this actor. Jok2000 (talk) 19:01, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well additionally, I was not vocal, but rather presented answers to all of the irrelevant bureaucratic process thrown at the discussion, which standing unchallenged, is proof the answers were enough to end debate against what I wrote. Jok2000 (talk) 19:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I checked that the page does not exist before closing the debate. You gave some answers indeed, I just did not find them convincing. Sorry.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:33, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You did not participate in the debate. So the policy error is that if you did not wish to participate, you should have ruled "no-consensus" based on the existing debate, which was actually a collection of citations, not an argument per se. Jok2000 (talk) 20:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There was consensus for deletion. Please note that in discussion with me this is already the third argument out of the blue, after I rejected the first two as not based on the policies, one of them was assuming smth what I was thinking. I suggest that you stop bringing new arguments here and concentrate on the deletion review instead.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any purpose to this suggestion? I would think that if you're closing AfDs without following policy, you would want to find out about it here where you can eventually delete hopefully helpful insight into your thought processes. Jok2000 (talk) 21:30, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Assa River

Sorry, I removed it as it was initially a red link. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 02:01, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I do not quite understand what you have removed, but thanks anyway.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:42, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pavel Petrovich Korowkin

Will you take a look on the biography of these Russian mathematician. I made it last year by translation from the german wikipedia article de:Pawel Petrowitsch Korowkin. It has not get any large contribution ever that. The german wikipedia also has a article de:Korowkin-Approximation. Please take a look in these articles. I am not sure whether they are notable or not. Solomon7968 (talk) 22:52, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will have a look, thanks for pointing out.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Crank hunt

Good morning, Yaroslav! You apparently have more experience how to cope with cranks, especially nationalists. Could you give an advice what to do with 50.73.253.49 (talk · contribs) after [1]? It is a current incarnation of the person identified as Alexazulian pusher. Should I continue the Special:Contributions pursuit and rollback all his/her rubbish? Or blocks to this (and possibly other) his/her IPs may already be tried? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 08:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I gave them the last warning, next edit from this IP like this will result in a block (if you see it, you can just directly go to my talk page). This seems to be a stationary IP, and all the contributions have been already rolled back (exceppt for the two, which seem to be more or less constructive). If there are other IPs recently edited with the same pattern, yes, I think the contributions should be rolled back with a simultaneous warning on the IP talk pages (there is a very small chance that they belong to different people - though I do not see how they could be unrelated - provided they exist).--Ymblanter (talk) 09:10, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I checked now - the other two you mentioned in the WikiProject:Russia seem to be inactive.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:29, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Does insertion of a forged wikilink qualify? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 18:27, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I lean to the conclusion that the edit was good-faithed, but it hardly can be considered constructive. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 18:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, let us wait for the more clear case.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
At last, [2] is a clear-cut case. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 11:27, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Blocked them for 24h. Thanks for pointing out.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:45, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What to do ?

You wrote that we (who edited the text about A.A. Karatsuba) must come to consensus with Stevenj. However, he do not want any consensus on any conditions excluding his own text in three lines, one of them is very offensive for A.A. Karatsuba (everybody who knows about real facts can confirm it). What to do? Our discussion with him turned out to absurd because he pretends he does not see our sources (published by Springer papers in mathjournals), but as his sources quoted words of "notalble people" (by his opinion) but not publications. We agree (see Talk page Anatolii Alexeevitch Karatsuba) to delete such claims in this article which very annoyed Stevenj (although they are right, and all explanations have been made to Stevenj, he rejected them bacause it doesn't correspond to some other Wikipedia texts which Stevenj created himself!). So we tried to state such a consensus deleting what Stevenj stated as "exaggerated claims". However, it is not enough for him. He simple don't want that any good text about A.A. Karatsuba would be. I will not mention "double standards": I edited some other Wikipedia texts about American mathematicians and never had problems like that with this paper about Russian mathematician. How to revert the former text and to block Stevenj who has his own not related to the Wikipedia grounds to del to delete the text about A.A. Karatsuba?Mathtruth (talk) 10:34, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is pretty much possible to come to consensus. You just need to stop concentrating on the personality of Karatsuba (remember, he was presumably your thesis advisor which in Russia means kind of semi-god, but other people do not have to regard him as semi-god) and instead see on what points you agree, and whether any of the points you disagree on is really essential for the article. Actually, I expect Steven, who is a more experienced Wikipedian, to come with this initiative. Then you can start together working on the text. If it turns out to be absolutely impossible, you can file a WP:DRN request. I am personally not a computer scientist, and I can not (and do not want to) really judge on the validity of the arguments.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:46, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Assa River (Sunzha River)

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

List of diplomatic missions of Colombia

Hello, the reason why I reverted your input was because it takes away from the original article. Unless you intend of writing that same information for each and every Colombian embassy abroad; it just doesn't go with the layout of the page. If you wish to contribute that information about Colombia's embassy in Portugal, I would suggest writing it in either Foreign relations of Colombia or in Foreign relations of Portugal. Regards, Aquintero, (talk), 12:51, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I do not really want to contribute, I just closed the AfD request, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of Colombia, Cairo, as merge (as it was the consensus). Now with you resisting to merge, I am not sure what to do.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that I open the ANI request, your imput there will be much appreciated.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:03, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion of inclusion of Kyoto Prize in criterion 2

Please participate in the discussion. Wikipedia talk:Notability (academics)‎#Inclusion of Pulitzer Prize for History. Solomon7968 (talk) 08:46, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Not exactly my speciality, but I will have a look.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:31, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Leonid Yakobson

Thank you! --Lawrentia (talk) 16:34, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kirillov_%28town%29&diff=554117013&oldid=554114003

Thank you Ymblanter, somehow I seem to overlook this sometimes. Lotje (talk) 14:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CFD backlogs

Hello, Ymblanter. You have new messages at WP:AN.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Nyttend (talk) 13:33, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Have seen it, thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:34, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mediterranean scene

I noticed you decided to delete the page. I'm not an avid wikipedia user so I've seen that only now. I posted all the links to scans of the sources of that article here: User talk:Blackmetalbaz#Mediterranean scene. Der Blutsauger (talk) 01:06, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You can try to recreate the article; if the resulting recreation is significantly different from the previous article, it will not be amenable for speedy deletion. However, among all your sources I only see one which specifically mentions Mediterranean scene; all others talk about bands which make parts of it. It might be a better idea to write about these bands, because in my opinion the notability of Mediterranean scene is still unclear.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:02, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If the bands are notable how can the collective not be notable? They have an unique style (referenced in a lot of magazines) and so they're notable for WP:MUSIC #1 and #7.

I'm not really an expert, how much the recreation had to be different from the previous article? The previous article had all the references (and I hosted them for you to see) to be notable under WP:MUSIC #1 and #7 and I cannot keep them on my hosting, so what I need to add? Der Blutsauger (talk) 18:44, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References to paper editions should be fine. The previous version in my opinion was really very short of norability, as the AfD discussion showed, so that the new one must demonstrate the notability better. If individual groups are notable, this does not yet mean that the collective is notable - it should receive sufficient press coverage as collective.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:46, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I really have to rewritten everything from scratch? I can't recover the last version and improve on that? Originally I decided to write only one page for all the bands of this collective because they play in the same style (more or less), they have the same members and they act as an unique band with different monickers.

Der Blutsauger (talk) 19:04, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can restore the deleted version to your userspace, if you want. (Please do not upload files, at least until you really know how to do it).--Ymblanter (talk) 19:13, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's ok for me. About the uploads... are you talking about the logos of the various projects? I was authorized by Marco Ardagna (head of their label), I need them to send a written authorization to someone? Der Blutsauger (talk) 19:40, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The info on the files is here. If he grants permission, he really should understand that he dos not just give permission for you to upload, he gives permission for everybody to use the logos for free, including commercial usage and all possible modifications. This is why OTRS is needed. Concerning the article, I will restore it now.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:03, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
User:Der Blutsauger/Mediterranean scene--Ymblanter (talk) 20:11, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Greenland

I'm sorry. I'm a bit of a jokester, but this is probably not the most appropriate forum for that. I'll keep my edits constructive in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.212.213.5 (talk) 17:44, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a good idea.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:27, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' Notice Board Incident Notification

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding your wrongful blocking of an editor. The discussion is about the topic Talk:Robert B. Bell. Thank you. —68.50.128.91 (talk) 21:24, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to your response to the Administrator's Notice Board Incident complaint, I take it that you will no longer involve yourself in the Robert Bell edit request? 68.50.128.91 (talk) 04:10, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not really. I will aske somebody else to block you. I am not sure why if you have chosen to constantly break policies I should step down and stop reverting.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:00, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No policies are being broken by me. And yes, I agree, you should not edit war, but asking someone to do it for you is an evasion of policy. So, either handle this like an adult or just drop it. 68.50.128.91 (talk) 17:49, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am not really interested in discussing the issue with you. You have been explain the rules multiple times, please learn to respect them. Thank you for understanding.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Very well, I will consider this dispute between us solved. Thanks for your cooperation. 68.50.128.91 (talk) 23:16, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gurlen

Hi, can you help expand this?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:23, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is less trivial than Russian articles but I will try.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:10, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete request

Thanks for deleting the nonsense article on Critical repetition frequency. This article contained the picture File:Importance Skill Chance.JPG, which was only used there (and in the previous German article, which has already been deleted, too).

Since I do not know the deletion process in the English wikipedia so well, I asked in my deletion request that this file shopuld be deleted, too.

Could you please do so?

I suppose I have done something wrong, when I simply readded the delete request in this file. Please help. The very best wishes from Vienna,

Roland Roland Scheicher (talk) 16:48, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. The file is on Commons, and it is best to reopen your deletion request there. I am not a Commons administrator.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:11, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ANI notice

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:68.50.128.91 and Talk:Robert B. Bell. Thank you. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 23:50, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sanaullah Haq

How did you arrive at the conclusion of no consensus here? Given the majority of keep votes were not even grounded in policy? Also the keep vote by 86.99.140.141 is a sock of Nangparbat, someone moved the strike to an IP above. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:16, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There was a considerable amount of votes from users in good standing saying NOEVENT does not apply. You are welcome to take it for the deletion review of course.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:58, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there were editors saying oneevent did not apply, but they were obviously wrong as the guy is known only for one event. Somebody saying something does not make it so. If you look on GNews you can see he is only known for this one event, getting shivved in prison. Darkness Shines (talk) 17:11, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You have already made this argument on the AfD page, and I took it into account. If I agreed with you, I would close it as delete. If you are not happy with my decision, please take it to the deletion review.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:18, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, should I give you the link when I do? Darkness Shines (talk) 17:37, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, I will find it myself. Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:10, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"If I agreed with you, I would close it as delete." - exactly what part of Darkness Shines' comment is not agreeable? Can you please explain? This terror-convict was a nobody till his murder and then suddenly his sole claim to notability becomes his death how much more blatant does it need to get? Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 07:04, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
the deletion review request is open, please comment there. Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:11, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I notice

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. I'm sending this to you because I mentioned your name. Sorry, I accidentally put this notice on your user page instead of your talk page, but thank goodness another editor noticed my mistake. Haha. Well, here it is again... in the right place this time. Thanks. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 05:24, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your Wikidata and hewiki problems (mentioned in a high-profile RfC)

Can you give me links to them? Maybe I can give you a hand. StevenJ81 (talk) 22:23, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That was a couple of months ago, somebody hinted at it on Wikidata, and I found it by search. I do not think I will be able to find it again, and, frankly, I got tired of the discussion at d:Talk:Q1218 and let them write what they want. Thanks again.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:52, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I found that one myself. Emotionally and religiously, I'm on their side, but that's not the issue at Wikipedia/Wikidata. I think you handled yourself very well there. If the discussion flares up again at hewiki, let me know. My Hebrew is ok, not great, but I'll help if I can. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:17, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good, thank you very much for your help.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:20, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:68.50.128.91

I saw your comment at User talk:68.50.128.91. For future reference, it is possible to embed blocking reasons, duration of the block, and even your signature within the block notice template itself. Here's the code to use:

{{subst:UW-Block|time=Duration|reason=For a custom block reason|page=Targeted page|sig=yes}}

Wasn't sure if you already knew about that or not ... sorry for making an assumption if you already knew the format to do it. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 16:20, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I know about this, it is just that I usually prefer to use custom text notices, because they are easier understood. (Not only for blocks, but also for different notifications). I added the template because it contains the unblock template, which can be copied and pasted from there. I did not realize that this kind of presentation can be abused as well.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:25, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Thanks, Ymblanter for your balanced comments and constructive contributions at Maharishi Effect. Best, — Keithbob • Talk • 03:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:57, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your inappropriate block

Your block of 68.50.128.91 was a clear violation of WP:INVOLVED. You reverted him at 15:00, and then at 15:39 you blocked him. And it doesn't matter one bit whether your revert was warranted or not. And then to add fuel to the fire, you removed his talk page access at 16:09. While you and some of the other admins involved in the block have tried to hide the fact that there is a blue code among you, anyone can look at your and their edit histories to find the truth. Although IP 68 made some inappropriate edits, and perhaps deserved the blocks he received, they were done in a rude, perhaps even malicious, manner with not one ounce of respect shown to him. You are an admin and there will always be problematic editors, but if you don't have a thick enough skin to deal with them in a calm, reasoned and fair manner, then you should turn in your tools. Especially if you are going to blatantly disregard policy, which you also did when you previously sanctioned him simply for removing warnings, which is perfectly allowed per WP:BLANKING. I would also suggest that you listen to the good advice given to you by another admin who told you to include any comments you have about the block in the block template, which you have failed to do. Instead, you choose to separate comments, like this one with a very immature edit summary intended to taunt and humiliate the blocked editor. And I should mention that IP 68 is extremely tame compared to many other editors I've come across, whose treatment by admins has been much less severe and hostile. And, by the way, the removal by one of your fellow admins of my comment on IP 68's talk page right after the block was a blatant and atrocious violation of TP policy, which was only exceeded in outrageousness by the protecting of the page at the same time because of my post. Violating clear policy to censor editors is disgusting. There was absolutely no justification for either of those moves. The Blue Code is alive and well on Wikipedia. So sad, because there are so many great admins and the few, like some of you involved in this situation, give them all a bad name with so many editors. Already, I've seen several discussion among editors who are fully aware of your actions and those of the other admins in IP 68's block. I can tell you that it's doing no favors for your reputations. I have no doubt that you will either hide this, gossip about it with other admins, deny that your are offended by it, try to convince everyone how off-base I am by trying to smear me, etc., and that's totally fine. The point is that you're getting the message. And it's now officially on record. And anyone who's interested can read this discussion on the talk page of my friend, admin Drmies. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 12:18, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with your assessment of the situation.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:26, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

AN

There is a discussion at AN in which your name is mentioned. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 13:20, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Zarafshan Range

Can you find anything on this?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:16, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, been there, nice area. Just wait a bit, I am on European time, and for me the day is almost over, and tomorrow I will be traveling. May be tomorrow evening.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:29, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kotlin (programming language)

Здравствуйте. Похоже можно будет подавать на WP:DRV. Источники тут. Да и с JetBrains, вроде всё так же, хотя надо будет ещё в ru.wikipedia статью вывести из КУшного состояния. Можете пока восстановить это мне в ЛП? --Be nt all (talk) 02:56, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Donguz Formation

Hi Ymblanter! Donguz Formation was recently created and could use a couple of edits so it doesn't get speedy deleted. Do you have time to look at some Russian sources? --Tobias1984 (talk) 07:13, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will have a look, but this is clearly not speedy deletion material. Added to the watchlist just in case.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:17, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Gurlen

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata merge BWV

I never merged and am too busy to learn it now. New Bach cantatas exist in at least two items for BWV 100, BWV 117, BWV 119, BWV 122, BWV 143, BWV 213, BWV 224, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Completed, it was much worse than just this. Currently all articles on Bach cantatas should be linked by interwikis. If there are problems please let me know.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:45, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Questions

Славочка, здравствуйте. Вы не могли бы еще помочь. На моей странице меня поругали за Konstantin Sergeyev, а я не поняла, в чем дело. Каждое отдельное слово поняла, а все вместе не поняла. И еще: почему в Leonid Yakobson убрали ссылки на Ютюб с хореграфией, но зато добавили музыку. Все-таки музыка – это удел композиторов и больше подходит для их статей, а в хореографе – главное хореография. Его фильм получил призы – и люди могли бы сразу посмотреть, для балета знание русского языка не требуется. Спасибо. Lawrentia (talk) 15:37, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Я вроде не трогал ссылки у Якобсона, если случайно что-то удалил, это моя ошибка, исправлю. Я к нему периодически возвращаюсь по вечерам, когда время есть. По Сергееву посмотрю.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:40, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
По Сергееву исправил, так, как Вы поставили, бот, видимо, путает с интервики.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:43, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • Ага, по Сергееву поняла свою ошибку, я не знала. Спасибо. По Якобсону очень сложная статья - я знаю. Я ее по-русски делала долго: и по сайтам, и по книгам, и по личным связям. Извините, что я вас так замучила этой статьей, но это очень важная статья. По сути дела - информации много, но она вся разбросана, нету единого целого материала, вот только наши статьи получаются единственные. Спасибо еще раз. --Lawrentia (talk) 15:51, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Zarafshan Range

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Saint Petersburg State University

Hi Yaroslav, the Saint Petersburg State University article contains a lengthy List of rectors. Are there corresponding Russian articles? Then it will be good to improve the present unreferenced Uiversity article. Solomon7968 (talk) 13:57, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there are articles about almost all of the rectors in Russian Wikipedia. I can probably reference the list, but I never use Russian Wikipedia for info, since it is very unreliable.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I added a timeline infobox to the article. The article has some Original research whether it was the first or Moscow university in Russia. Are there any reliable source for it? Solomon7968 (talk) 14:10, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It was the first, I will find a reference.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:31, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it is more subtle, when I am back, will try to do smth.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:25, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Stu Klitenic for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether if Stu Klitenic should be deleted or not. The conversation will be held at the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stu Klitenic until a consensus is held and everyone is welcome to join the conversation. However, do not remove the AfD message on the top of the page. Ashbeckjonathan 03:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Серов

Кажется, что сушуствуют расличние традиции мөжду Википедии и Wikipedia. In Википедии, the tradition after the title is to give a name with stress accents - e.g. Ленин, Владимир Ильич and then 'Влади́мир Ильи́ч Улья́нов (псевдоним Ле́нин)'. In Wikipedia,this is not the case, but the stress accents are normally shown in IPA format: e.g. Vladimir Lenin, and then 'Vladimir Ilyich Lenin (Russian: Владимир Ильич Ленин; IPA: [vlɐˈdʲimʲɪr ɪlʲˈjitɕ ˈlʲenʲɪn]'. (For English names in fact the stress accents and pronunciation are rarely shown at all, as you will be aware).

There is a good reason for this. Most readers of English Wikipedia do not read the Cyrillic alphabet. By providing Russian names with stress acents and without any further explanation, Wikpedia would give such readers reason to believe that these accents were part of the standard Russian written spelling, and they might therefore transcribe the names, with the accents, as standard spelling (in student essays or whatever). In such circumstances, you can see that Wikipedia would in effect be peddling inaccurate information. Indeed, where articles on Russian people in English Wikipedia have such accents in their names, I believe it is often because English editors have taken the names wholesale from Russian Wikipedia, (or because they have been written or started by English-speaking Russian Wikipedia editors, using the traditions of the latter). The appropriate way of indicating stress for Russian names in English Wikipedia articles therefore remains the IPA transcription.

I hope you may agree and reinstate my edit. Thanks, --Smerus (talk) 05:43, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This very issue (stress or no stress) is currently being under active discussion, with arguments presented for both sides. I am now travelling and might not be able to provide a link before Saturday (I believe it was referenced from Wikipedia Talk:Project:Russia, but until this discussion is closed I believe we should wait and do not add/remove the stresses.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:14, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I will wait for your further response. Some discussion took place a couple of months ago, I can't remember where. I particpated. The discussion was inconclusive and I think has petered out. The argument I presented above was made there but never answered. Best, --Smerus (talk) 13:39, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe there is currently a discussion ongoing about this, but a recently held one at WT:RUSSIA#Using accent marks to indicate stress (which I believe is the one you are thinking of) quite unequivocally resulted in a support for indicating stress both in Russian spelling and in IPA. According to native English speakers, there are more people who can read Cyrillic (and are familiar with the stress marks) than there are people who can read IPA. Those who can read neither are not losing anything anyway. If you are not satisfied with the outcome of that discussion or find it inconclusive, you are always welcome to re-open it in a more prominent location (which Yaroslav's page isn't :)). At this point, however, the opinions voiced on this subject so far leave you in a clear minority. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 10, 2013; 13:44 (UTC)
Smerus: as Ëzhiki pointed out, this has been discussed thoroughly and very clear consensus has been reached. And the discussion was not inconclusive as you say. Azylber (talk) 23:23, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not without reluctance, I set out again the issues which the discussion did not deal with. There are two issues confused here: 'correct spelling' and stress indicators. No one has asserted that the use of stress indicators in Russian text is a standard part of Russian orthography. And in fact they do not occur in Russian printed texts, in any handwriting with which I am acquainted, in (e.g.) comments on this talk page in Cyrillic, or in Russian Wikipedia - except in the lead line of articles of Russian WP (as in some Russian works of reference), where it is a standard convention to indicate stress with accents. This practice (which is not a convention in English Wikipedia or works of reference) has been carried over by some editors into English Wikipedia.

I do not know the statistics of acquaintance with IPA and/or Cyrillic amongst English Wikipedia readers - and nor, I suspect, does anyone else. (Although I would point out that the contributors to the discussion mentioned by Ezhiki and Azylber were all Russian readers, and therefore perhaps not fully representative of English Wikipedia readership). I certainly accept that IPA is not a very trasparent mode of representing stress for English readers. I agree that - for example - it would be very helpful to include in the lead line for Serov (and for others) something like: 'stressed: Alexánder Nikoláyevich Seróv'.

What in my submission is not helpful is to include in the lead line in English Wikipedia is the formulation 'Алекса́ндр Никола́евич Серо́в', because:

  • 1) It transgresses WP:EN, which clearly states that 'The native spelling of a name should generally be included in parentheses'. And the use of stress accents is not part of the 'native spelling'. The familiarity of Cyrillic readers with the use of stress-marks does not therefore override WP:EN. English Wikipedia should be written with the interests of English readers as a priority.
  • 2) It consequently potentially misleads non-Cyrillic readers into believing that stress marks are part of the native spelling.

I would be grateful to see some attempt to address these specific issues within the context of agreed and fundamental Wikipedia standards, including WP:EN and Wikipedia:Russian_Romanization and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Cyrillic) (which do not, by the way, appear to sanction the use of stress marks). As mentioned above, there is no present uniformity on this issue in English Wikipedia - for example, Lenin and Stalin don't have stress-accented transcriptions, Mikhail Lomonosov and Peter the Great do. Best, --Smerus (talk) 08:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Smerus, I'm somewhat surprised that you are not aware that the use of stress marks is ubiquitous in Russian dictionaries and reference works; and in the latter they are used exactly the same way as in Wikipedia—to show where stress falls in the title term. That alone makes the rest of your points moot. The native spelling does not become incorrect due to the inclusion of stress marks, and the point on misleading non-Cyrillic readers had been thoroughly refuted in the thread I linked to yesterday. And as far as your statement that the "English Wikipedia should be written with the interests of English readers as a priority", I would understand this argument if you were proposing to get rid of Cyrillic spellings altogether, but applied to the stress marks it just doesn't make any sense. The inclusion of stress marks in English spelling (where they are easily confused for accented letters) makes even less sense: between a non-Russian speaker including stress marks as a part of Russian spelling and an English speaker incorrectly spelling a term with accented letters in English, the former is clearly a lesser evil.
This said, I repeat my suggestion that you re-open this discussion at a more prominent location. That at least might attract attention of new participants. Trying to argue this on a user's page to a small subset of previous participants who've made it quite clear they don't find your arguments convincing is simply a waste of time, both for you and us.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 11, 2013; 13:49 (UTC)

Yes I think you are right that we are not seeing this in the same way, and that is why I have opened the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (use English). Best, --Smerus (talk) 15:06, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Smerus
You seem to be identifying 4 groups:
1. English speakers who read no Russian - who will read the English and to whom the Russian is meaningless squiggles
2. English speakers who know the alphabet but won't know that stress marks aren't part of the alphabet
3. English speakers who know the alphabet and want stress marks
4. Russian speakers who will read Russian wikipedia, but also want stress marks which ru.wp has Алекса́ндр Никола́евич Серо́в .
And you want the lead formatted for the benefit of group 2. Is this correct? This to me would seem very odd, since I don't believe that group 2 exist. If anyone has learnt the cyrillic alphabet (which is what 2 hours on a rainy train journey, or Lesson 1 in any course) then they already know that stress marks are not part of the alphabet but are used in course books and dictionaries because stress is irregular.
I'm just looking at Daphne West's course on Amazon.com and the stress is mentioned immediately before the alphabet, page xvi in the "Only got 10 minutes" section. So what readership exactly are you aiming to help? Seems to be value-destroying to remove the stress marks. Certainly would be a pain for you, you have ru-3 Этот участник свободно владеет русским языком, on your user page, I don't believe at ru-3 you know every name stress, I know I don't and often find them useful, so you'd be making both me and yourself click through to ru.wp every time we want to pronounce a Russian name. What is the benefit of that? In ictu oculi (talk) 11:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Neelakasham Pachakadal Chuvanna Bhoomi

Hello! The article was redirected in April 2013 because it was WP:TOOSOON and supposedly failed WP:NFF and there was no major coverage yet. Now it's June 2013, filming has started and has even been completed already, so it passes WP:NFF, not too soon either. Enough coverage is there now, reliable sources have been added, it is notable too. All the issues are solved, so why is it being redirected now? The film is going to release in 50 days. I don't think it can be redirected now and I hope you will undo your edit. Thank you! Veera Dheera Sooran (talk) 16:26, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, the new version is sufficiently different from the old one. I restored it.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:05, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Steklov Institute of Mathematics director

I ran a Google translate of the Russian article and it gives the list of directors as:

Is there any reference for the director from 1987 to 2004? It can be used to improve the present article. Solomon7968 10:28, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bogolyubov was the director until 1988 (never use Russian Wikipedia as a source!!!) [3]. In 1988 to 1993 it was Vasily Vladimirov, 1993 to 2004 Yury Osipov.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:32, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That means Bogolyubov was the director from 1983 to 1988. So my rest of list is correct. Solomon7968 10:37, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Conversation about CP

Hi. :) There's some talk at Wikipedia_talk:Copyright_problems#Wikipedia:Suspected_copyright_violations about how to handle the backlog at WP:CP. I've been thinking lately that separating out some of the workflows might help, and your input there would be most welcome. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have this page in my watchlist, but did not yet have time to react. Thanks for alerting, will try to react late afternoon (your early morning).--Ymblanter (talk) 11:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Help on NC Cyr

Hi Ymblanter, thanks for your many edits. Would you be interested to help ugrade Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Cyrillic) from draft to RfC for adoption as guideline? In ictu oculi (talk) 02:50, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In principle, yes, but I remember that there were some discussions in the past, and a considerable part of the community thinks it sould not be a guiideline. At least this was my impression.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:32, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think the balance has changed. NC Mongolian and so on are guidelines, why should this not be - since this is how articles in any case are. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:00, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Might be. We could give a try.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:04, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oleksander Korniychuk

Hi, can you add the Russian/Ukrainian names and find the other wiki articles and find anything on him?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:41, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm it is the same article as Alexander Korneychuk. Am I right? The Legend of Zorro 21:55, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but I'm not sure which spelling is right, a lot of our articles on Ukrainians spelling it Oleksander.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 22:18, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will have a look. Spelling is obviously a hard issue, we need to check how is he best known in English-language sources.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:12, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Alexander Korneychuk has the highest Google books hit with 136 results. Nearest is Alexander Korniychuk with 10 results. The Legend of Zorro 20:04, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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User talk:Ezhiki#List of Russian landscape painters

Ярослав, вы не заглянете туда, если найдется время? Там Ленинградартист просто развернул деятельность, а мне не верят. Очень по вам скучаю :(( --Shakko (talk) 19:54, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Обязательно, но, наверное, уже завтра: только что вернулся из Польши, три дня был без интернета вообще.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:00, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion of page "Rajeev Chawla"

I am surprised that the page on Rajeev Chawla was deleted by you by saying that he is not a notable person. In my edit I provided many evidence of notability How can the page be undeleted

1. Interview of Shri Rajeev Chawla by Innovations for Successful Societies (ISS),jointly hosted by the Woodrow Wilson School of Public & International Affairs and the Mamdouha S. Bobst Center for Peace and Justice of the Princeton University, USA http://www.princeton.edu/successfulsocieties/content/focusareas/CS/oralhistories/view.xml?id=283 2. Shri Rajeev Chawla received the Prime Minister's award for Excellence in Public Administration http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=26544 3. http://www.unpan.org/DPADM/UNPSDayAwards/UNPublicServiceDay/2006PublicServiceDay/tabid/1298/language/en-US/Default.aspx 4. Presentation on Bhoomi as provided in the UN Public Administration Website http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/UN/UNPAN023395.pdf 5. Newsweek Article mentioning Bhoomi along with several other best practices http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/16/how-e-government-is-empowering-citizens-worldwide.html 6. Reference to Bhoomi in UN Conference http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/un/unpan025305.pdf 7. Winners of the UN 2006 Public Service awards http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/un/unpan022965.pdf 8. Report of the 2006 UN Public Service Awards http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/un/unpan023650.pdf 9. United Nations web page on details of the 2006 UN Public Service awards functionhttp://www.unpan.org/DPADM/UNPSDayAwards/UNPublicServiceDay/2006PublicServiceDay/tabid/1298/language/en-US/Default.aspx 10. CV of Shri Rajeev Chawla as listed in UN website http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/un/unpan025191.pdf 11. Employment Record of Shri Rajeev Chawla as listed by Government of India http://persmin.gov.in/ersheet/MultipleERS.asp?HiddenStr=01KN027500

All these sources were in the article during the AfD process, and the consensus was still delete. Most, if not all of them do not qualify as reliable souces describing the subject of the article.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:12, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Geography of Franz Josef Land

Have started this. Might interest you.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 07:00, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am afraid here my help might be very limited, an interesting topic, but I do not have access to special literature.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:00, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


OECD/OCSE

Russian Federation isn't at all a recognized member of OECD/OCSE.See also OCSE/OECD article.In Russia article is written that Russian Federation is an OECD/OCSE member.Lies!151.40.3.61 (talk) 16:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

[4]. I suggest you complain to OSCE if you think their website published wrong info.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:13, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Donajowsky

(a request to look at the paper and some related discussion).--Ymblanter (talk) 16:02, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Не присмотрите за кадавриком, "русским композитором"? --Shakko (talk) 11:29, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Попробую. Поставил в список наблюдения.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:31, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
спасибо. а то у меня национальная гордость проснулась. Оказывается, у лорда Маунбаттена была идея фикс насчет нашего марша, и он его даже на день рождения королевы заставлял играть (в русс. статье описано). И они играют! А композитора написать не могут. Думаю, это все же был "Дунаевский" первоначально. --Shakko (talk) 11:34, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
А спеллинг названия марша правильный? Странно, что статьи нет (правда, в статье про морских пехотинцев ссылки тоже нет).--Ymblanter (talk) 11:36, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
английское написание, по-хорошему, надо брать с офиц. сайта морпехов (там одна из первых ссылок). Статьи нет - это нормально, в русской тоже я только сегодня ее написала. --Shakko (talk) 11:49, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
For re-listing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rachel's Vineyard. Bearian (talk) 15:58, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:02, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Editintro for fiction articles?

I have proposed a means of preventing copyvio plot summaries that requires changing the site-wide Javascript. Your feedback is appreciated at Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems#Editintro for fiction articles?, before I take this to a wider audience. MER-C 06:55, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:20, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An infernal heat

Yaroslav, if you have some spare time, then help a bit with the hell at talk:Heat please. I can’t cope with a mile of rubbish there because simultaneously engaged in other conflicts. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:05, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am leaving in five minutes, will have a look later today, in a couple of hours.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:16, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yaroslav, I can mistake, but your apparently pay even less attention to topics of physics than I pay to topics related to Russia. Of course you may work with whatever articles you like, or to acquire an aversion to physics. But one dive into a hell of incompetence at talk:Heat, or into some other hell, would have in any case more merit than daily hovering on drama-noticeboards. Dramaboards do not require so high skills as you have: they are for retarded or lazy people. Do not behave like these admins (add a personal attack to your taste). Regards, Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:20, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I actually added Heat to my watchlist and I am following the talk page discussions. I believe at this point my intervention is not yet needed, and the disruptive user is likely to be topic-banned. The problem is that at the point the signal to noise ratio at this page is very low, and it is possible that I have missed some of the signal, but at least at the moment I do not see any destructive edits to the article itself. I also see a couple of users who seem to be competent in the field. Anyway, I am watching the talk page and I hope to be able to react if smth happens.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:30, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Good. My post was actually personal: after yesterday adventures I realized yet another time that dramaboards are dangerous for me. The people likely would made same conclusions without me, and any retard can declare that a consensus is reached. I only wasted my time and yielded myself to hatred. And you, are you sure that anything from 2009 will not reappear? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:56, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, I guess it would not reappear. Someone like Lvova would be quickly taken care of here, and very efficiently. And I do not care anyway.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:00, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly they would, per WP:DIVA. BTW, together with one Yaroslav Blanter since November 2009. I do not expect en.wikipedia to discreet thoroughly one sub-species from another. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 11:49, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I obviously disagree.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:53, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

AfD close

Can I ask you to reconsider this close, please. The numbers you give (10 delete/merge, 4 keep) is easily a consensus to get rid of the article per usual practice at AfD. thanks. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 07:01, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are actually correct,, I miscalculated the fractions. Shame on me.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:21, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Discussions

When will you close these discussions: here, here, here? Banhtrung1 (talk) 15:28, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am not planning to close these discussions, and I can not recollect me ever promising to close them.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:32, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I saw you closed this discussion, so I think you will close the rest. Banhtrung1 (talk) 03:15, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not admin and can I close discussion which over 7 days? Banhtrung1 (talk) 03:16, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please see WP:NAC over what discussions can be closed by non-admins. In short, you should not be involved, and it must be an obvious consensus for keep, merge, or redirect.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lenta.ru

Ярослав, здравствуйте. Никого тут не знаю кроме Вас. Данную статью постоянно вандалят. Вы не подскажите куда жаловаться и к кому обращаться? --85.232.118.82 (talk) 18:28, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Вандализм мы откатили, последний вандал предупреждён, я поставил в список наблюдения, если вандализм продолжится, придётся защитить.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:36, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently my mistake or a malfunction occurred. I intended to rollback [5]. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 18:42, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I understood this. But then I discovered there was more vandal edits and rolled back everything from April (there was only one useful sentence added, which I re-added). Thanks for helping.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:49, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Dear Ymblanter:

Thank you very much for fixing up a problem that I didn't realize I had caused. Firefox crashed on me when I was writing the last few words of my, well, whatever that was. It's the first time that's happened since I switched to Windows 8. I rebooted, assuming that my edit would be lost and was surprised to find the text still there in the edit box. I typed the end of my sentence, and saved just as my doorbell rang and I had to make tea for guests. As a result I didn't realize that something had gone wrong, and it wasn't later when I checked my watchlist that I saw your fix. I shouldn't have trusted the browser after it crashed, I guess. Anyway, thanks again for recovering it for me. I wouldn't want anyone to think that I was deleting people's comments on purpose. —Anne Delong (talk) 19:27, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, you are welcome. Everybody realized it was a good faith edit.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:32, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ENTHOI Lakatamia FC

I noticed that you deleted my article about ENTHOI Lakatamia FC as an administrator. I believe that you should not have done that before you were reading the статья. If you did you would noticed that команда играла в Πервый League нa Кипрe. Cтатья states that it happened during cезон 2005/06, which exist в Википедии. Τы could check that cезон. If you needed source, then почему you didn't delete статья 2005–06 Cypriot First Division. If you are interested for the benefit of Wikipedia, as an administrator you should have checked that. You could check Google.

Anyway, вот мои sources: [6] [7]

--KRBN (talk) 11:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, my business was to determine consensus, and this is what I did, but since you are clearly getting confrontational instead of asking you to add the sources again I will add them myself. When I have time.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:34, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I asked Wikiproject:Football to comment on the reliability of the sources, if they are fine, I am going to restore the article.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:00, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Done--Ymblanter (talk) 13:30, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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TheShadowCrow

I completely forgot that TSC was under a topic ban; I have blocked for 1 month. GiantSnowman 18:31, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was not sure for how long a block is warranted, and I decided that it would be better if someone else does it. But I am sure we will see several rounds of appeal, and the block duration will come to a consensual value.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:33, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

in case of gerard depardieu article

i did it because the of this

Year Film Cesar nomination Cesar win Director
2012 The Man Who Laughs(L'homme qui rit)
Life of Pi Ang Lee
Asterix and Obelix: God Save Britannia Laurent Tirard
Le grand soir
2011 Grenouille d'hiver Slony Sow
Un baiser papillon Karine Silla
Raspoutine Josée Dayan
2010 Houba ! Le Marsupilami et l'Orchidée de Chicxulub Alain Chabat
Une femme d'affaires Frédéric Schoendoerffer
Potiche François Ozon
La tête en friche Jean Becker
Le grand restaurant (TV) Gérard Pullicino
Mammuth Best Actor Benoît Delépine and Gustave de Kervern
L'Autre Dumas Safy Nebbou
i wanted to remove the error. that's why --178.235.183.165 (talk) 11:18, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure what you wanted to remove but you removed about a half of this table, in particular, the Life of Pi.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:21, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Got it, thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:23, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Explantation required

Why did you make this edit, and why are you asserting me to be a sockpuppet? Please support your reply with evidence, not personal opinion. 212.183.140.59 (talk) 10:27, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You have been investigated last time, and found to be a sock.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Me, or a previous user of this IP (it is from one of the UK's largest public pools of IP addresses)? When? Where? 212.183.140.59 (talk) 10:53, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DeFacto. And you will be now blocked as well.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:56, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can't see anything about me there. Are you sure you are not confusing me with a previous user of this IP? Are all the IPs from this ISP now blighted because of some historical use by an unwelcome contributor? 212.183.128.113 (talk) 11:07, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. All IP from this range with the predominant interest into metric systems will be treated as socks. I guess someone would need to block the range. I am not doing this only because of my insufficient technical skills and because I have to catch my flight in three hours.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:10, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No NO mobile user from the UK is allowed to edit articles related to the metric system - no matter how much they want to improve them? Wow! That sounds like a seriously flawed judgement to me. Especially as the issue is so controversial in the UK, with so many people having strong opinions on it. Hardly a day passes when it isn't in the news there, in some form or another. Wiki is in serious danger of misrepresenting the NPOV on this issue then, I would content. Where can we get this matter discussed properly? 212.183.128.113 (talk) 11:15, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Get unblocked first and then please feel welcome to discuss it.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:17, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not blocked. Can you tell me where that diktat about metric articles is documented so that I can read it for myself? It's not that I don't believe you, but I want to read the detail, specifically the small print. 212.183.128.113 (talk) 11:20, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Protected in error

You recently protected History of the metric system because of persistent sockpuppetry. This was either a mistake or was tendentious. Either way, can you now unprotect it please. 212.183.140.59 (talk) 10:51, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, because you are a sockpuppet and you are persistent. Everything was done properly.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:16, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Year Film Cesar nomination Cesar win Director
2012 The Man Who Laughs(L'homme qui rit)
Life of Pi Ang Lee
Asterix and Obelix: God Save Britannia Laurent Tirard
Le grand soir
2011 Grenouille d'hiver Slony Sow
Un baiser papillon Karine Silla
Raspoutine Josée Dayan
2010 Houba ! Le Marsupilami et l'Orchidée de Chicxulub Alain Chabat
Une femme d'affaires Frédéric Schoendoerffer
Potiche François Ozon
La tête en friche Jean Becker
Le grand restaurant (TV) Gérard Pullicino
Mammuth Best Actor Benoît Delépine and Gustave de Kervern
L'Autre Dumas Safy Nebbou
2009 Bellamy Claude Chabrol
In the Beginning Xavier Giannoli
Diamant 13 Mat
2008 Hello Goodbye Graham Guit
Mesrine: L'instinct de Mort Jean-François Richet
Babylon A.D. Mathieu Kassovitz
Disco Fabien Onteniente
Asterix at the Olympic Games Frédéric Forestier and Thomas Langmann
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