Talk:Luis D. Ortiz

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Celebrity Net Worth

Celebrity Net Worth lists him at $15MM - Celebrity Net Woth is based on estimates and not an accurate source. 70.42.157.6 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:51, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Negative Edits

There seems to have been a rash of edits trying to give a negative light to this article. I've tried to fix these submissions but someone keeps reverting them. These are some examples:

Under the state investigation:

"In a blog post following the incident as well as other incidents involving conflicts with others on the show, Luis stated of his mother, "My mother always said that is better to ask for forgiveness than permission."[7]"

This quote is taken completely out of context and he was talking about doing a listing. It has nothing to do with the state investigation.

update 6-26-2013: After consulting with wikipedia editors, they mention all blog or twitter entries are not considered valid sources and therefore should be removed from the article.Senencito (talk) 22:00, 26 June 2013 (UTC)Senen[reply]

Technically primary sources may indeed serve for uncontroversial details such as, say, a birthdate, but an entire paragraph of self-justification is far too much to base it only on primary sources. Besides, there are the issues of misrepresentation and quote mining Senencito pointed out which make the content itself problematic. Regarding the tweet, I fail to see how that's relevant to this article at all. Huon (talk) 22:04, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Senen, your blog says you do photography for Luis for a year. Can you clarify your interest in this and in the fake photos matters? 2600:1001:B01E:4929:1577:63D5:6F46:B03A (talk) 22:37, 26 June 2013 (UTC). Do you have credits on the photo of the subject? ^[1]2600:1001:B01E:4929:1577:63D5:6F46:B03A (talk) 22:44, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you mean my blog entry where I shot Luis for a Magazine. I am a freelance photographer and I’ve shot Luis a few times, I have no problem stating this. I’m sure you’re trying to discredit me so let me jump ahead of you; No one is paying me or pushing me to write this article. I do not have any photo credits on the subject. I do not hide behind anonymity.

Now I would like to ask about your interest in this particular article. Why do you persist in pushing the article to a negative direction. I notice you’re crawling through random sources and putting them in regardless of their context. The latest twitter addition being especially senseless. Would you care to state the reasonings behind your misleading edits? Senencito (talk) 00:46, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BLP violations

Hi, I've semi-protected this following a complaint on RfPP that unsourced material was being added. I've also removed the unsourced or poorly sourced, as well as some descriptions of others in the lead that I wasn't able to check. Please make sure that anything that's added or restored is sourced according to the Biography of living persons policy, particularly WP:BLPSOURCES. Many thanks, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 16:27, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, now there is just one more puff piece on Luis out there without objectivity. Now he can just say he is important and a top broker because look, there's a Wikipedia page including his handsome smile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.208.81.211 (talk) 16:35, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It seems the person that was writing under an ip address has now returned under the alias LuisDOrtega He is once again copying the very same old comments that were deleted once proven to have unreliable sources and is spreading his message across all the wikipedia pages referring to the Million dollar Listing program — Preceding unsigned comment added by Senencito (talk • contribs) 12:44, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your complaints are false as all additions have been well sourced.  Based on you being the original author of this article, having edited or contributed to no other articles, and having been on the payroll of Luis Ortiz, it appears you are conflicted.  If you have clarifying facts, you are free to supplement this article, but not with Facebook pages or personal blogs.LuisDOrtega (talk)

All of the previous comments by Ortega are false. I already clarified I am not being paid, no one is incentivizing me to write on this page I am not hiding beneath an alias and I have no idea why you mention facebook. Meanwhile you are using an alias alluding to Luis D Ortiz, you are also writing in all of this pages spreading the same negative connotations, quotes taken out of context that are many times sourced from blogs or non valid sources. I ask then, what are your intentions, why this incredible interest to slander his person?Senencito (talk) 12:19, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 28 July 2013

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The reference to citation 5 is incorrect. Luis and his brother did not leave Puerto Rico because their mom tried to suffocate and kill them. They left because they "were feeling uncomfortable and suffocated by something". They bought one way tickets to FL and told their parents that they were going to the beach. They did not come back. Their mom was very upset. Ssouza78 (talk) 02:43, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A bizarre misrepresentation of the source. Removed. Huon (talk) 04:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What is the source of the 1 way tickets and the story they told their mother?LuisDOrtega (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:13, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

None, for all I can tell, which is why we don't mention this anecdote in the article. Huon (talk) 15:43, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Editors' relationship with Ortiz and potential conflicts of interest

Please use this space to discuss relationship -financial or otherwise- with the article subject. Senencito: created article, photography of Ortiz: http://www.senencito.com/my-blog/2013/3/28/on-shooting-luis-for.html, other: Ortega: any relationship? None Reeespecto: various comments about Ren Kenaloull's employment of Luis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.208.73.119 (talk) 17:08, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  I've never had any problem mentioning the fact that I've taken photos of Luis. I've stated plenty of times my edits are neutral and no one is paying me or nudging me to create or maintain this article.
  If you check my edits you will see all of them have been neutral and well sourced.
  I don't know who Reeespecto is.
  Regarding Ortega, I think it's pretty telling the fact that he created his account specifically to slander Luis. It's obviously someone with an agenda that is hiding behind an alias. Most of his edits are         blog based and he/she is frequently putting quotes out of context. Again just look at his history. Senencito (talk) 20:58, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

^ http://www.senencito.com/my-blog/2013/3/28/on-shooting-luis-for.html

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