Talk:Augusta of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach

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House of Saxe-Weimar

Applying the name "House of Saxe-Weimar" to a non-ruling prince or princess of this family is a little problematic. The Grand Ducal Family of Saxe-Weimar and Eisenach was a branch of the House of Wettin. As such, all members of the grand ducal family were members of the House of Wettin as well. "House of Saxe-Weimar" is fine when describing the whole family in general to distinguish them from other Wettins, but it is not needed for the Empress Augusta, who has it in her article name. The form "House of Place" seems mostly to come into play when a junior branch of a family succeeds to the throne of another territory. For instance, the branch of the Wettins in the United Kingdom. They were members of a junior branch of a ducal family and taking that family's territorial name as a house name is fine, but it is mostly an exception, rather than a rule, unless we decided to call the Hohenzollerns the House of Prussia or the Zähringens the House of Baden. Both are fine, but already implied in article names. With the UK royals, it isn't so clear so Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is used at the bottom with "cadet branch of the House of Wettin" given as well. With most other Saxon royals, it is not needed. Also, the Belgian case cited by individual who reverted is an exception, not a rule. The Belgian Royal Family's house name was specifically legislated. They are now then a cadet branch of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (as a junior ruling branch of that family) which is a cadet branch of the House of Wettin (Coburg and Gotha line). Charles 03:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Date and Location of Franz Xaver Winterhalter Portrait of Augusta of Saxe-Weimar

According to the authoritative Franz Xaver Winterhalter (Menzenschwand 20 April 1805 – Frankfurt am Main 8 July 1873) - Works From 1861 To 1865 (Last Update 1 January 2009) by Eugene Barilo von Reisberg, "706. Augusta, Empress of Germany & Queen of Prussia (1811-1890), née Prinzessin von Sachsen-Weimar-Eisenach, 1861. Oil on canvas, 271 x 180 cm. Missing since 1945."

The reference is available on the Internet at: http://www.bvram.com/ .

Also, "705. Wilhelm I, Emperor of Germany & King of Prussia (1797-1888), 1861. Oil on canvas, 271 x 180 cm. Missing since 1945."

Gogm (talk) 21:17, 28 August 2011 (UTC)gogm[reply]