Talk:Bob Brozman

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"ref does not speculate as to reason or cause of death"

From the cited article: In 1980 Brozman was involved in a serious car crash and, according to Thomas, "suffered severe pain in his spine and his extremities ever since". A year and a half ago, Brozman told him he was unable to play Hawaiian guitar. "He said 'My hand won't do it' ... and he was the greatest Hawaiian player since Tau Moe." While recording his last album, Fire in the Mind, "there were times when he just had to stop, and it was incredibly painful for him". According to Thomas, Brozman "took his own life. He said he was dissolving before his own eyes, and he was devastated by the loss. He struggled to imagine his life without an instrument in his hands." 69.89.111.229 (talk) 01:05, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but that's not good enough. The obit does not say he committed suicide for that reason, you are drawing an inference that that was the reason. I will revert.--ukexpat (talk) 01:39, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. The relationship is clear to any reasonable person. But you're determined to be that kind of person, so you win. Hooray for you! But it does say he took his own life. I will re-insert that. 69.89.111.229 (talk) 01:46, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am just applying policy. We cannot infer anything that is not explicit in a source, especially where BLP applies as it does here (recently dead person).--ukexpat (talk) 02:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are creating a synthesis of what you're reading in the source. That's the problem. It's up to the reader to make that association or reach that conclusion, not to us. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 02:07, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry guys, the obit does indeed say he took his life. It's near the bottom. (I don't know if the paper itself it considered reliable, but what the IP is saying is correct, the article says he did take his life, it's not inferred or synth'ed, but rather stated plainly. KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ... 16:50, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The question is not whether the source says he took his life, of course it does. The issue was with the previous wording, which was drawing conclusions from what is in the article as to why. So your wording is actually perfect, since it's completely neutral. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 17:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In fact the article said that even before User:KoshVorlon's edit.--ukexpat (talk) 20:43, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Post-death allegations

This sentence has been removed several times. I have replaced it as it is properly cited. 173.206.86.241 (talk) 01:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]