User talk:SefBau

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Thank you for welcoming me. I appreciate it, and thanks also for the guidelines! SefBau (talk) 13:50, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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Have a question

Hi, I want to be a contributing editor here, however I have an important question, is there a list of "tags", the one you put on a page like {{unclear|date}}, {{ref improve|date}} and etc. Is there a complete list of those different tags that we put on a page. Thanks a lot! SefBau :  msg  05:12, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, there is such a list. Take a look at WP:TC. Also please see WP:RESPTAG & WP:TAGGING. Regards, --Glaisher [talk] 06:13, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, great help! SefBau :  msg  12:25, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Nitin goyal

nitin goyal is a businessman and from chandigarh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shankigoyal (talk • contribs) 10:14, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, what is this about? Can I help you? I don't understand what you're trying to say. Please enlighten me. SefBau :  msg  10:23, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Nitin goyal

nitin goyal is a businessman and from chandigarh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shankigoyal (talk • contribs) 10:16, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Duplicated message, please see my reply above. SefBau :  msg  10:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikipedia's deletion process

Greetings, SefBau, and welcome to Wikipedia's deletion process! Thank you for your contributions. As a newcomer, it may be helpful for you to read Wikipedia's deletion policy, and the pages describing the articles for deletion process, proposed deletion, and speedy deletion. Remember that deletion debates are not votes, and reasons matter, especially reasons relating to the central content policies of verifiability, neutral point of view, no original research, and what Wikipedia is not, and to the consensual community guidelines for biographies, corporations, music, and fiction. Also remember that deletion is not always the answer to a bad article. Feel free to drop me a line at my talk page if you have any questions. Again, welcome! Michaelzeng7 (talk) 19:48, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Tango Café

Thank you, SefBau, I greatly appreciate your taking the time to advise and comment on the creation of the Tango Café page. Not sure if this is the correct place to address the concerns. If not, I apologize and please enlighten me.

There were two criticisms: one that the piece "read like a biography" of the owner. Three sentences out of nine mentioned her name. I have eliminated the last two references. (As a newbie with wikipedia, I don't really see the references as excessive, but so be it. )

The other issue was the use of videos as references. There were six articles referenced from newspapers. There were seven references to "The Tango Cafe Legacy" video series, of which five were interviews or discussions. Their purpose was to document the Tango Café's role in Pittsburgh as a cultural center in multiple dimensions. To me, again as a new contributor, these seem more "verifiable" than many printed and broadcast sources. They don't qualify as "self-published", in the sense that the author/videographer of the series, Victor Beltrán, was not a subject or a participant. (I did fail to include the author's name.) In any case, they may be republished the Latin American Cultural Union or the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce; I don't know if that makes them more suitable as references or not.

The remaining references document music performances and art shows at the Café; I can see the problem with including them in the reference section. I wonder whether some of these are suitable for inclusion via an "External Links" section or side-bar?

I greatly appreciate the chance to contribute to wikipedia; with time I will master the authoring skills. Thank you! Notsofeo (talk) 23:47, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

• Hi! I myself is new here in WP, you've also reached the right place for me to answer. I'm actually confused with your article first, what is your main reason for contributing that article? Please read WP:Notability & WP:GNG & WP:NOT. Right, the article somehow have references, but as the article looks right now it is not on a publishing state. It is actually confusing as a cafe was also used as a cultural center, as I see this is what you're trying to say its significance. However, "video, and multimedia materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or archived by a 'reputable' party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable sources. Like text sources, media sources must be produced by a reliable third party and be properly cited.' For me, YouTube is not. References about the performances must be few, personally the inline citation for the performances looks too cluttered.
• Maybe you have the right references but the way it is written doesn't give me the impression of its importance. Read existing articles that is similar to yours and base your WP:Formatting there, as improper formats often doesn't get approved. Expand the whole article to give us vast information for its significance to have its own page here. BTW, you can still add credible information about the owner if it is needed I said it looks like a bio since there was little info for the main article and just looks like a bio. :)
• I may be wrong so let the other editors read it, RESUBMIT IT but I'm guessing they'll say the same. Sorry couldn't help much as I'm only using my mobile phone. Hope this helps. SefBau :  msg  01:31, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

CSD pointers

Hi Sef! I just deleted an article you tagged for CSD, and wanted to give you a quick tip on tagging for deletion. The article in question (Davy vara) was a pretty clear A7 (didn't assert notability about the subject), but you also tagged it as a G10 (attack page). I read it over and it didn't seem like an attack to me. Usually, we only tag things as attack pages when they're pretty blatant. Good call on the A7, though. Keep up the good work, and feel free to ask me anytime if you have questions. Best, Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 08:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the fast action. I tagged it as an attack since for me the article somehow stated potential libelous information without sources. Sorry about that, next time I'll be careful. SefBau :  msg  08:29, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

It's totally okay, and sometimes a G10 is a matter of interpretation. It was getting deleted either way. I look forward to seeing you around! :) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 08:51, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I hope so too - busy with some things. I'll just familiarize myself first. :) Take care. SefBau :  msg  11:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Joe Lipa

Ok, no problem, i'll try to find a way to add my source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edmon74 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for complying. :) SefBau :  msg  11:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm guessing you are newish around here

Thanks for pointing out the similar editing patterns. I've opened a sockpuppetry report for those with the toolset to check them out. It;s pretty easy to do, but it helps if you have a tool like Twinkle. Doing it manually is a pain in the fundament Fiddle Faddle 15:24, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the head's up. I've supported your report and added my explanation. Yes, I'm new around here. I'm using Twinkle aswell, I'm just not sure if it's true sockpuppetry, but since you did it thanks! :) Have a great day! SefBau :  msg  16:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)