Talk:Defense of the Ancients

Changing the Picture

Hello, this page looks really well done and informative, however I think there is one way that this page could possible be improved. You'll notice that the primary screenshot (the one titled 'a game of dota in progress') for this article is sub-par for this page, for numerous reasons:

1.) Ancient version (6.48b). Considering that the current version is 6.74c, its past time for an update, if only to match the fact that dota has come a long way since then.

2.) Outdated visuals. Skeleton king still has stormbolt. Headress still provides a weird green aura. No healthbars shown. New players to the genre could see this and be misled as to the current content of the game.

3.) If you look on the mini-map, you can see that there are only three heroes on the Sentinel side. Considering that dota is traditionally played 5v5, this could again be misleading to a new player.

Considering that I'm assuming most people editing this page play/have access to the game, I'm sure it would be extremely easy to get an up to date screenshot that more than accurately depicts dota in its current form. I'd suggest a similar screenshot in terms of what is being depicted- nothing too crazy like a gank or teamfight. The current screenshot is good in that regard. I'd provide one myself but my internet is in a bit of a rough spot at the moment.Clarty 94 (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Inaccurate term

The term is wrong. DotA is not a "MOBA", it's a ARTS. Please fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faestus (talk • contribs) 18:58, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

This entry states that DotA is a Multipalyer Online Battle Arena (Wtf is that???). DotA is a RTS. Please correct that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faestus (talk • contribs) 19:11, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

To be fair, the term for the genre is v. ambiguous. It's called a heap of different things by a heap of different people. I think that the best thing would be for the name of the genre to be omitted, and perhaps to state that a name for the genre is not available until it's been absolutely determined what the genre will be called. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GrivvyWivvy (talk • contribs) 13:24, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't have a particular source but the term MOBA was coined by Guinsoo. It seems to have caught on and I have seen it several other places on the web. I believe it is a appropriate term to use, but I am a bit partisan for League. Marcusyoder (talk) 05:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

The issue is that the term MOBA is essentially Riot Games' trade name for League of Legends. Valve similarly uses the term ARTS for Dota 2. Because this article is on the Warcraft 3 Custom map I'd suggest calling it an RTS if you have to give it a genre. 75.97.192.37 (talk) 13:30, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Take it to Talk:Multiplayer Online Battle Arena. Changing the genre name requires changing...er... the genre name. All the related articles will shift with that. As it is, ARTS is considered an alias of MOBA, with MOBA being the common name. -- ferret (talk) 14:56, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm talking more about DotA just being a custom map of Warcraft 3. In the end you're still just playing Warcraft which is an RTS. It's like saying Chess960 is a totally different game and genre of game when in reality it's just a permutation of Chess. I don't think the DotA map has a genre 75.97.192.37 (talk) 17:43, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

DotA is not a mod, it is a map

Yes, it is distributed in map file with extension .w3x , which is extension for warcraft 3 expansion scenario file. It does not modify any file of the original game, warcraft 3, so it is not a mod. I thought that wikipedia is about facts and not about some biased opinions. I am not a registered user, but I would be glad if some of you registered users would correct this misinformation. Thanks 11:01, 12 August 2013 (UTC)Sokoro

For the general reader and not the video gamer, they're equivalent. This is why it is described as a mod rather than a map. --Izno (talk) 21:55, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Eul is a Valve employee

A little note should be added in the sequel section on Eul being an employee at Valve working on Dota 2. Dota 2 producer Erik Johnson mentions it in this interview. There was a small controversy over the franchising of the term "DotA" by Guinsoo and Riot. It would be useful to anyone looking for information on this to be able to find where all the major developers are (that is Eul and Icefrog at Valve, and Guinsoo at Riot.)75.97.192.37 (talk) 13:30, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe all of that is covered in Dota 2. -- ferret (talk) 14:56, 1 September 2013 (UTC)