Talk:Ralph Miliband

This article has not yet been rated on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Biography: Politics and Government / Science and Academia

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by the science and academia work group (assessed as Low-importance).
	An appropriate infobox may need to be added to this article. Please refer to the list of biography infoboxes for further information.
	An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Belgium

	Belgium portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Belgium, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Belgium on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.BelgiumWikipedia:WikiProject BelgiumTemplate:WikiProject BelgiumBelgium-related
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

London Low‑importance

	London portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject London, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of London on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.LondonWikipedia:WikiProject LondonTemplate:WikiProject LondonLondon-related
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Socialism Low‑importance

	Socialism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Socialism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of socialism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SocialismWikipedia:WikiProject SocialismTemplate:WikiProject Socialismsocialism
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Politics of the United Kingdom

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Politics of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Politics of the United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject Politics of the United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject Politics of the United KingdomPolitics of the United Kingdom
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Jewish history

	Judaism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Jewish history, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Jewish history on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Jewish historyWikipedia:WikiProject Jewish historyTemplate:WikiProject Jewish historyJewish history-related
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

He or his father?

[As Adolphe Miliband, he was born in Brussels of Polish-Jewish émigré parents. Both his parents lived in the Jewish quarter of Warsaw, before his father, Samuel Miliband, joined the Red Army in the Polish–Soviet War.[1][2] He is buried in Highgate Cemetery close to Karl Marx and many celebrated left-leaning minds of the 20th Century.]

Who is buried in Highgate Cemetery, Ralph or Samuel? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 05:17, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If it is Samuel it is hardly necessary to mention it; if Ralph the statement would preferably follow his own death.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 16:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am quite sure it is ralph but I didn't find a cite with a quick look - this article http://www.camdennewjournal.com/reviews/books/2010/sep/books-review-ralph-miliband-and-politics-new-left-michael-newman has a pic of him as a young man. Off2riorob (talk) 17:51, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quote about his sons

Where does the quote - "The sadness of some of Ralph's circle at Ed and David's divergence from their father is considerable." come from?

I saw no reference to it in the article it was linking to. Athosfolk (talk) 12:08, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's in the second part of the article. That could be made clearer, or the quote, which is given without any context whatsoever, could be removed completely. – Hysteria18 ^{(Talk • Contributions)} 14:50, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Navy

Hello, it says in the abstract he served in the British Army. He of course served in the Royal Navy, could someone please change this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.86.243.150 (talk) 10:57, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed – Hysteria18 ^{(Talk • Contributions)} 12:33, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I notice no citations for service in the Navy. Nor are any dates given. If no-one can find a citation we may have to delete it. 80.192.22.216 (talk) 10:11, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Check his obits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.27.50 (talk) 13:28, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Adolph or Adolphe?

It's 'Adolphe' in the lead and infobox, but 'Adolph' further down. Which is correct?--A bit iffy (talk) 16:22, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

With an 'e'. Now cited and consistent. Philip Cross (talk) 17:31, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Mail

The article notes that "On 1 October 2013, the Daily Mail' published an article by the Labour leader defending his father's patriotism following a feature in the newspaper three days earlier which had severely criticised Ralph Miliband." However, this is severely misleading without adding that the Mail re-published its original feature together with a combative editorial. As it stands, this sentence makes it sound almost as though the Mail is admitting error or at least allowing equal weight to both sides of the argument - which obviously isn't the case. To balance things out, then, I added these sentences: "At the same time, the Mail republished its original piece with a headline "We repeat", and it published an editorial defending its original stance. Mail readers were not allowed to add comments to the editorial or to Miliband's article, only to the republished anti-Miliband article." But these changes have been reverted, supposedly as giving undue weight to these details. However, without these sentences, the original statement is misleading for the reasons I've given. 82.153.39.9 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:26, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was probably a littler hasty in removing all all your addition, but this article is about Miliband Snr. What the Mail has done, or not done, in regard to the comments section of the articles, and its reassertion in a virtual reprint of the Levy article and the accompanying editorial, is drifting from the immediate subject. If a more substantial outline of the incident becomes necessary, if it should remain in the news, such content really belongs elsewhere, in Ed Miliband's biography or the Daily Mail article. Philip Cross (talk) 14:59, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]