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September 27

Template:Infobox problem

Template:Infobox problem (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused maintenance template. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:21, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, of course, the fact that it has no links does not mean it is never used. However, I don't think this was ever widely used. Frietjes (talk) 14:01, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Ort in der Türkei

Template:Infobox Ort in der Türkei (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:38, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, assuming the translation drive using this template is no longer active. Frietjes (talk) 14:02, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox OPcrew

Template:Infobox OPcrew (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:34, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, appears only applicable to non-notable subjects. Frietjes (talk) 14:03, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox NCAA Division I Baseball Tournament (1954-1975)

Template:Infobox NCAA Division I Baseball Tournament (1954-1975) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:35, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No longer in use as it has been superseded by another infobox. Billcasey905 (talk) 20:06, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per Billcasey's rationale Mizzou415 (talk) 14:55, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Napolimetro

Template:Infobox Napolimetro (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:20, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, redundant to {{infobox rail line}} (see, e.g., Line 1 (Naples Metro)) Frietjes (talk) 14:03, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox N-Number

Template:Infobox N-Number (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 18:33, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, or userfy, appears this was never deployed. Frietjes (talk) 14:05, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete not likely to be used as it just a copy of the data from the FAA website so has no real use as most of it is not encyclopedic, also ignores the fact that "N-numbers" are not unique. MilborneOne (talk) 12:00, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Mustafa Kemal Ataturk extension

Template:Mustafa Kemal Ataturk extension (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 18:30, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete Frietjes (talk) 14:05, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Missouri Supreme Court case

Template:Infobox Missouri Supreme Court case (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 17:54, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know anything about TfD, but this template was used in an earlier version of an article before it moved up to a superme court case. I can see it being used for articles of similar cases (those which are almost notable enough to make it to SCOTUS) in future. SPat ^talk 18:00, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If that happens there is always Template:Infobox court case.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 18:34, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, didn't know that existed. SPat ^talk 22:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete as redundant to the court case infobox. Frietjes (talk) 14:06, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Minnesota Senate district

Template:Infobox Minnesota Senate district (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 17:51, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, redundant to {{Infobox United States legislative district}}. Frietjes (talk) 14:07, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Largest cities of Bihar

Template:Largest cities of Bihar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

no longer needed after being merged with the article. Frietjes (talk) 17:48, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 16:41, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox metabolic pathway

Template:Infobox metabolic pathway (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 17:45, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Magic: The Gathering event

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:57, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Magic: The Gathering event (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 17:30, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete Frietjes (talk) 17:33, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - When I created this template, I was planning on writing a series of articles on professional Magic: The Gathering events. Given that I never got around to it, the template is entirely redundant. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:43, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Tom Hanks sidebar

Template:Tom Hanks sidebar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unnecessary since it only connects three articles, and all three articles are already well-connected through the see also sections, other article links, and Template:Tom Hanks. Frietjes (talk) 15:27, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as redundant to Template:Tom Hanks for navigation.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 15:55, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Locomotive AAR

Template:Infobox Locomotive AAR (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 14:10, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, the standard is to just use {{Infobox locomotive}}, which links to AAR wheel arrangement when the wheel arrangement is specified. if we need more anchor linking, we can always incorporate such a switch as a subtemplate of that template, but that's not really needed. Frietjes (talk) 17:37, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox line2

Template:Infobox line2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The purpose of this template is unclear. It's used on 5 articles, and in all cases it should be replaced with Template:Infobox coat of arms or a similar template. eh bien mon prince (talk) 14:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, appears to be a fork of {{infobox}}. the transcluding articles should use template:Infobox coat of arms as indicated above. Frietjes (talk) 17:39, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

merge with the article, but move to a subpage and redirect to preserve edit history. Frietjes (talk) 18:03, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Irish clan

Template:Infobox Irish clan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

One transclusion, redundant to Template:Infobox clan. eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:13, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

merge with Template:Infobox clan. Frietjes (talk) 18:04, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with the recommended merge. —Willscrlt ( Talk | com | b:en | meta ) 07:19, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Iraq football season

Template:Infobox Iraq football season (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:09, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete as redundant to {{infobox football club season}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox internet show

Template:Infobox internet show (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:03, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete as redundant to {{infobox web series}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Interactions

Template:Infobox Interactions (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:48, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

userfy or delete. Frietjes (talk) 18:06, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox horse coat

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was withdrawn Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:57, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox horse coat (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:08, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: At least for another month or two, WikiProject Equine didn't fully realize this template even existed, we would like the opportunity to take a look at it and see if it's something we can use. Can you allow us time to discuss it and perhaps do any improvements that seem needed? Thanks! (If we decide we don't want it, we'll support a TfD later...) Montanabw^(talk) 22:54, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The project does indeed know that it existed, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Equine/Archive 3#Proposing a color infobox -- WOSlinker (talk) 20:39, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out, we obviously all dropped the ball, forgot about it (including, clearly, me) and never completed our work on it; looks like we mostly favored the concept, were just fussing over nuances and the discussion died. Definitely worth salvaging and resurrecting. Montanabw^(talk) 03:13, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for now to be renominated if no use is found -PC-XT+ 04:24, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawn per Montanabw, there are 47 articles in Category:Horse coat colors so it could definitely see some use.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 16:06, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Hells Angels

Template:Infobox Hells Angels (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:48, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete as redundant to {{infobox organisation}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:08, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox headline

Template:Infobox headline (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The purpose of this template is unclear. It's used on 5 articles, and in all cases it should be replaced with Template:Infobox coat of arms or a similar template. eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:46, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, appears to be a fork of {{infobox}}. the transcluding articles should use template:Infobox coat of arms as indicated above. Frietjes (talk) 17:40, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Harvard Residential House

Template:Infobox Harvard Residential House (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:44, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, redundant to {{infobox residential college}}. Frietjes (talk) 17:40, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox greekroyalty

Template:Infobox greekroyalty (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:34, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete as redundant to {{Infobox manner of address}} Frietjes (talk) 18:09, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox former country multi-name

Template:Infobox former country multi-name (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:03, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete as redundant to {{infobox former country}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:09, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The only difference between this template and {{infobox former country}} at the time of the split was centering the name at the top. As such, it is redundant. TDL (talk) 18:35, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Football Olympic tourney

Template:Infobox Football Olympic tourney (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 10:59, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete as redundant to {{Infobox Olympic event}} Frietjes (talk) 18:10, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox European Free Trade Association

Template:Infobox European Free Trade Association (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template should be merged back into the article, European Free Trade Association. eh bien mon prince (talk) 10:23, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and delete - Single use template with no prospects for any other uses. No benefit to having this in template space. TDL (talk) 17:02, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
merge and delete, but consider keeping the edit history behind a redirect. Frietjes (talk) 18:10, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox European Economic Area

Template:Infobox European Economic Area (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template should be merged back into the article, European Economic Area. eh bien mon prince (talk) 10:22, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and delete - Single use template with no prospects for any other uses. No benefit to having this in template space. TDL (talk) 17:03, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
merge and delete, but consider keeping the edit history behind a redirect. Frietjes (talk) 18:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Enneagram

Template:Infobox Enneagram (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 10:16, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, not needed since the individual articles were merged with Enneagram of Personality, which has a simple table with all the enneagrams. Frietjes (talk) 18:12, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Dutch basketball club season

Template:Infobox Dutch basketball club season (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 10:01, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, redundant to {{infobox basketball club season}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:12, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as redundant. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:47, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Dublin Bus

Template:Infobox Dublin Bus (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only used in an abandoned AfC. eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:59, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, redundant to {{infobox bus line}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:13, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox drum corps

Template:Infobox drum corps (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Should be merged with Template:Infobox drums corps. eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:57, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

merge. Frietjes (talk) 18:13, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox distributed computing project 2

Template:Infobox distributed computing project 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Single use on PrimeGrid, there is already Template:Infobox distributed computing project which is more widely used. eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:49, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by template creator While it is true that the template is currently only being used on PrimeGrid, I don't see how that is a valid reason for deletion of this template. Also, I think this infobox contains exactly the fields that are (in my opinion) useful for an infobox in this article. But if we can update {{Infobox distributed computing project}} so that it can hold the information that this template currently holds in the PrimeGrid article, then that's fine with me. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 11:56, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you create another infobox, instead of editing the existing one, then?--eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:56, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. Perhaps I thought it was easier to create a new infobox than updating the existing one. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 13:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete after merging with Template:Infobox distributed computing project. Frietjes (talk) 18:14, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox dance genre

Template:Infobox dance genre (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:36, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete or merge with {{infobox dance}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:16, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox creator

Template:Infobox creator (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Obsolete, only two uses in file space, the Creator template on commons is used for the same purpose. eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, a link to the creator's WP page is enough, we don't need to duplicate article-space content in file-space. Frietjes (talk) 15:03, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox CPBL player biography

Template:Infobox CPBL player biography (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:01, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, redundant to {{infobox baseball biography}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:18, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox conic section

Template:Infobox conic section (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 08:49, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment it seems to be incorrectly coded, and someone substed {{infobox}} as the basis of the template. -- 65.92.181.39 (talk) 04:09, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete, currently a cut-and-paste fork of {{infobox}}, but if someone wants to make it work properly, I would reconsider. Frietjes (talk) 14:09, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox company center

Template:Infobox company center (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 08:44, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete Frietjes (talk) 18:19, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox CareerTech

Template:Infobox CareerTech (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 07:54, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, all the transclusions were most likely converted to use {{infobox school}}. Frietjes (talk) 18:48, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Canadian budget

Template:Infobox Canadian budget (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 07:47, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete Frietjes (talk) 18:48, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:EngvarB

Template:EngvarB (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Completely needless given existing Template:Use British English on pages and Template:British English on talk pages, so there's that. Further, no evidence whatsoever that Ohcon or other users are checking edit histories to ensure that pages are actually (per WP:ENGVAR) properly or by consensus considered British English. No evidence whatsoever that pages with American English are being similarly formatted or protected via bot. In at least one case (Pippa Passes) the current method of inclusion of the template produces unsightly white spacing at the top of the articles. — LlywelynII 06:43, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I can confirm that pages with American English are not being similarly formatted, but so what? There is no deadline. The project is a staged one, and work is continuing to apply WP:ENGVAR to articles, principally based on WP:TIES – initially British, Australian, NZ, Irish, Scottish, Indian, South African. The EngvarB template is conceived to be nationality-neutral, and allows a generic templating that upsets few – as opposed to broadly applying {{use British English}} to articles about Irish etc subjects – which can understandably provoke nationalistic sensitivities although none are intended. The "unsightly white spacing at the top of the articles" seems to be a technical constraint with hidden templates in general and does not affect only this one, otherwise all hidden templates would need deletion. -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 07:14, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Could the same tracking be done by adding a second parameter to {{Use British English}} and its cousins? Something like {{Use British English|date=June 2010|last_checked=September 2013}}. Have I understood the purpose of {{EngvarB}}? -- John of Reading (talk) 09:14, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I have been contemplating evolving the template and the related work for some time, but want to get the work done whilst avoiding complication. Of course we can always add a parameter to the template, if we find a good use for same. At present, when the script passes, it would simply change {{Use British English|date=June 2010}} to {{Use British English|date=September 2013}} because nobody has found any advantage of keeping the 'June 2010' date. Maybe in time, WP can move to International English. But you would think that there is a huge cultural trench where lies the Atlantic that bodes ill for universal application of IE if you read all the comments on WT:MOS and my talk page about national variants of English (or date formats). -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 09:56, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This project is unnecessary, appears US-biased and could provoke divisiveness. We already have guidelines on ENGVAR that work well. Labelling an article as "British English" places decision before discussion, over-emphasizes ENGVAR issues and is likely to provoke division. The project is fundamentally flawed because it doesn't take account of the most common variant - International English (e.g. see the Oxford Dictionary of English) - and appears to give special status to US English pages as the dominant form. In fact the main corpus of the English language is International English, with the others (US, Canadian, British, Australian, Indian, Irish, etc.) being important regional variants. Bermicourt (talk) 09:35, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- @Bermicourt: You seem to have misunderstood that this is about deleting {{use British English}}. But if you believe {{EngvarB}} should be deleted, then the line of discussion in the above vote belongs at the relevant talk page. And until it's generally accepted that we can and should use IE, this template is necessary. The use of this EngvarB template is merely an extension of WP:ENGVAR, to keep articles' spelling a consistent variety throughout whilst avoiding provoking nationalistic sensitivities, which is something you alluded to in your comment. In actual fact, I've actually stopped applying {{use British English}}. Having said that, I tend to agree that the whole Engvar thing is divisive, but we also need to accept that it exists as part of the Manual of Style and needs to be maintained. I totally agree, why not "International English" instead? But has its dictionary even been defined? And who recognises IE? Or maybe we will evolve a "Wikipedia English" along these lines?
  I dislike the proliferation of templates for Australian English, South African English and even Scottish English and Hong Kong English – heaven help us that it's splintering to this degree – because they potentially create large permutations and thus hugely complicate maintenance. In the sense of what I'm doing, running the EngvarB script is applying a uniform spelling from a dictionary I established (close to British) rather than IE spellings. That dictionary is not immutable. -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 10:11, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- PS. If anyone would propose to delete all the "use English" templates listed here, I would happily support, but I sincerely believe EngvarB should be kept for the reasons I already gave. -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 10:19, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Ohc. I don't know how widespread the concept of International English is, but the New Oxford Dictionary of English views English as a world language. To that end they employed around 70 editors and consultants from all over the English speaking world including e.g. 18 US consultants, 8 Indian English consultants and so on. In practice, words that are common to all or most regions are considered "international", words that are mainly used in just one or two regions are specifically annotated as such. This seems a smart approach which Wikipedia could adopt, provided we can agree on which dictionary or dictionaries are authoritative. There will probably be US objections if we only use the ODE as it may be seen (wrongly) as a British source, but if there were a leading US dictionary that used the "international" approach, we might find it easier to gain acceptance. Bermicourt (talk) 13:49, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"International English" has not been established on the Wikipedia MoS; that requires a change through discussion at MoS. Good luck with that. Meanwhile, deleting templates will not make such MoS changes happen. Dl2000 (talk) 15:05, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I found User:Angr/Unified English Spelling extremely interesting. But "interesting" (and moot) will all it ever be unless we can sweep away the nationalism that exists here and embrace genuine multi-culturalism. It would be un fol éspoir under this consensual model we have. Even the author accepts that it's a personal view that isn't ever likely to be adopted. -- Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 02:41, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, no coherent deletion rationale and based on faulty understanding of the templates. First note that {{EngvarB}} is not redundant with {{Use British English}}, etc. per template documentation; it groups similar spelling patterns of regional English variants for spell check, WP:COMMONALITY that is approximately associated with the British Commonwealth (the "appears US-biased" complaint is therefore absurd). EngvarB cannot simply be merged to the British English tag without causing complaints, in fact that has generated complaints on Australian articles. Thus EngvarB would be more likely to reduce the chances of divisive discussions. There are editors who occasionally fix for WP:ENGVAR consistency, and such templates help with identifying articles for such repair. There are indeed some technical and operational issues with the templates which need to be resolved (e.g. dating original tag versus checking dates; syncing with talk page templates) which should be solved but deletion is a false solution to these (WP:BATHWATER). There are editors who occasionally check for WP:ENGVAR consistency, such templates on the article assist that task. The deletion reasons are strictly WP:IDONTLIKEIT and the nominators have not supplied proof of any actual chronic or unsolvable problems and alternatives to deletion have not been sufficiently discussed. Dl2000 (talk) 15:05, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as currently useful. If there is a redundancy, ((tl|Use British English}} seems more likely the one to be deleted, IMO. -PC-XT+ 08:43, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or at lest change the message displayed. This is not a request for copyediting as I understand it, and the WP:GOCE should not be responsible for it.--DThomsen8 (talk) 14:32, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The template does not show up as text, therefore no message is displayed. And who says that WP:GOCE must accept responsibility for this, or numerous other kinds of templates for that matter (WP:NOTCOMPULSORY)? Dl2000 (talk) 02:03, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Am I wrong that this template places the article in the copyedit category? That's what adds apparent work to the WP:GOCE.--DThomsen8 (talk) 02:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The documentation could be clearer, but as you've mentioned this is not a cleanup request template as such and could be exempt from a copyedit category (or add a category to indicate GOCE-exempt templates such as this). In any case, deleting the template entirely is overkill (WP:BATHWATER, WP:ATD); maybe WP:GOCE should recruit a larger labour pool? Dl2000 (talk) 01:50, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]