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June 4

Mort Leav

I found an article in Wikipedia on my father, Mort Leav. The date of his passing on is incorrect. It reads "2006", whereas he passed away on Sept. 21, 2005. I couldn't figure how to change that piece of information and wish to know if it is possible to do so.

David Leav removed e-mail to protect against spam Garion96 ^(talk) 12:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC) [reply]

On the top of the article there is a tab called "Edit this page". Click on it and there should be a text box with the article contents. For the date is is recommended to put in the form [[Sep 11]] [[2005]]. That way it will render correctly according to user's date preferences. However it is generally not recommended for people to make major changes to their own pages or relative's pages unless there is a reliable source. Harryboyles 01:56, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, September (and all other months) should be spelled out. So it would be [[September 11]] [[2005]]. Dismas|^(talk) 02:42, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have left a message about this at User_talk:Tenebrae#Mort_Leav (Tenebrae created the article). Carcharoth 13:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And 2006 is absolutely right; my source, Alter Ego #58 (May 2006), p. 68, does indeed say 2006, and I did a typo on the last digit that made it a "5". I'm happy and gratified that the highly talented Mr. Leav's son has come to Wikipedia to see his father's bio here.

Moments like that (my typo aside!) help make this all worthwile. Bob Powell's son contacted my Talk page a couple months back to say, "I enjoy the fact you have taken the time do a page like this!" -- Tenebrae 13:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!!!!!

I am a student at Highlands Elemantary School in New Jersey. Sometime in April or May I was researching information regarding education in Highlands New Jersey. I came up with figures that I now need to retrieve once agian. "Can you please help me"? Part of the information was this;34.8% of the students graduate. About 26% of the students received an associates degree, 17.2% received a bachelors degree, and only 9.2% received a master's degree.

Can you please assist me in finding where I could've gotten this?

Thanks, removed e-mail to protect against spam Garion96 ^(talk) 12:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Have you tried the article on Highlands, New Jersey. Harryboyles 01:59, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cost???

I'm an unregistered Wikipedia user. How much does many of the contributions cost if I should ever become a registered Wikipedia user?64.53.209.169 02:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is free to read or edit, registered or not. -Goldom (t) (Review) 02:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Templates

Is it OK to edit templates? There are a number of templates I have come across lately that I think could be improved. One example is the LOC template.

This article contains material from the Library of Congress Country Studies, which are United States government publications in the public domain.

I think that this would be much nicer if it read:

This article contains material from the Library of Congress Country Studies, which are United States government publications in the public domain.

Is it OK to do that?

Thanks,

Spventi 02:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The general policy is anyone is free to edit anything, which includes templates. This particular template is one of a set (see Category:Wikipedia sources) that all use italic. I'd expect if you change it someone will come along behind you and change it back. -- Rick Block (talk) 02:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the prompt response. I only want to change the wording; omitting the italics was just an oversight, thanks. And if someone wants to change it back or to a different wording, that's fine, too. I just wanted to know if it's OK to start the ball rolling, so to speak. Thanks again.

Spventi 02:58, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uh...the two versions are the same (except for italics), aren't they? Or am I missing something? MCB 23:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You missed that the first instance is actually an inclusion of the template itself. It's since been changed to match the proposal. Previously it read:

This article contains material from the Library of Congress Country Studies which, as a United States government publication, is in the public domain. - GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 18:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Terry Mulholland.jpg

I've tried three times to upload an updated version of his picture, without success. It says I've succeeded, but the picture doesn't change (even when I reload.) What's going on? Grand master ka 03:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You need to clear your browser's cache. On my browser I do it by holding down the shift key when i click reload. --Hetar 03:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above is for Firefox. If you use IE you must press Ctrl+F5. SCHZMO ✍ 14:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse a Redirect?

I'm not sure where to ask this question; Wikipedia:Redirects_for_deletion didn't seem right, so please direct me.

I noticed that the page J.J. Yeley redirects to JJ Yeley. I went to the subject's official website (referenced on the page) and it shows his name as J.J. Yeley. How does one go about safely reversing the redirect, so that JJ Yeley would point to J.J. Yeley, without causing any issues for other users? I was looking at Help:Redirect and I think I can't just do a "move" because of the page history.--Brian G 03:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If there was nothing there but a redirect, you could move it over the old redirect. If there's a history though, you have to either be an admin, or ask one for help at WP:RM. -Goldom (t) (Review) 04:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is the -proper- way to line break?

I've seen , ,, and sometimes just the line break shown in the edit window (via enter) works, but sometimes it doesn't. What's the official way to cause a break? -Goldom (t) (Review) 05:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It really depends on the context. Wikisyntax (see Help:Editing) is intended to "do the right thing" for what most normal people might enter as text. The content is presented in HTML so there are some HTML artifacts that work (like to cause a line break). The markup used here is in reality XHTML, so is a technically more correct way to insert a line break. Virtually all web browsers treat the same as , so there's really only a pedantic difference between them. If you want a line break, either will do. With the / is "more correct" (in a techo-geek kind of way). -- Rick Block (talk) 05:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. -Goldom (t) (Review) 05:37, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We shouldn't have to worry about xhtml vs HTML in the wikitext, and thankfully we don't have to. If you insert , mediawiki will do the right thing and send it as xhtml . ❝Sverdrup❞ 12:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

fixing wikipedia

This question moved here from the Reference Desk. Sandstein 05:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i did search in help for this but couldn't find it. how does one mark a page either as a stub or as a missing entry if one feels it should exist, but it doesn't. Uwe Barschel (i probably misspelled it. i have no idea what it is but someone linked to it and it sounds important) is an example. if we search for something and it doesn't exist, it means we don't know about it so we cant fix it ourselves. how do i mark it to be looked at? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sashafklein (talk • contribs)

Forgive me if I misunderstand, but I think the answer to your question is in two parts:

If you think the article on Uwe Barschel should exist, but doesn't, just link to it normally (with two square braces on either side of the name, thus: [[Uwe Barschel]]). If the page doesn't exist, the link will be in red rather than blue, so other users will know that it needs to be created.
If you think the article should be created, and want to start it yourself, created a redlink (as explained in the above point) on a page that refers to the article you want to create. Then, click the link, and write the stub on the page you're taken to and hit "submit". To mark the page as a stub, select the correct tag(s) to use from here.

Hope this answers your question. RandyWang (^raves/_rants) 11:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might also want to see Wikipedia:Requested articles. -- Rick Block (talk) 15:02, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to mark an article as a stub, place the text {{stub}} at the bottom. There are also many more specific stub messages that help classify the stubs for experts to find and expand later. There is more information at WP:STUB. --Ginkgo100 19:18, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright or not?

Now i want to put in this picture thats online for, but no where on the website does it state that anything is copyright. Its a picture of a school that i got from its virtual library. Is it ok to use witout dubbing it fair use? Or do i have to do the whole process? --Dimigw 06:41, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think following the WP:COPY image guidelines would be best. -- ∞Wirelain 06:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FMCG, Syria

--82.194.62.22 14:57, 4 June 2006 (UTC)Where can I find information about the Syrian Arab Republic FMCG retail and distribution market?[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. SCHZMO ✍ 18:55, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright tags

what is the approate copyright tag to use on a picture that is copyrighted, but granted with permition from the owner as long as the source is specfied? Jerrycobra 09:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is {{Attribution}}, I hope this helps. GWatson  ^TALK 15:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

e-gold no.

My name is Sunday Momodu. i'm about joining the members and while filling the form, i was asked of e-gold no. so pls. how do i get an e-gold no?

I assume you're speaking about joining Wikipedia. I've never heard of "e-gold no"... perhaps you mean e-mail? — TheKMan^talk 16:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, you must be speaking of an e-gold number. Wikipedia does not require an e-gold number, so you must be speaking about joining some other group. — TheKMan^talk 16:56, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No-Forum notice?

Is there a template in existence that can be posted at the top of talk pages that tells users "this page is to discuss the article, not new characters"? Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 19:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not that I know of, but you could always make one! Drop by my talk page if you have any questions. --Hetar 02:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

article was deleted

An article on the British music group Test Dept., and its associated talk page, were deleted today. I think this was because the article was largely a cut and paste job (not done by me) from an unofficial website devoted to the group. I'm new to WP, and I'm not too well up on deletion policy, so feel free to correct me, but personally I wish this hadn't been done. Two reasons: firstly, I'm not sure that the article met the criteria for deletion given in Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Articles, and secondly, because the act of deleting it seems a little excessive. Would it not have been better to have deleted any copyright material, but left something there as a stub? Then there would at least have been something there to work on. If the stub had been left, I would probably have tried to refine the article myself. But now that there is nothing there, I probably won't bother.

Also, the associated talk page contained a brief comment from me, pointing out the inadequacy of the article and stating that I didn't know enough about the band to improve it. This has now disappeared. Presumably a talk page can't exist without its article page? Still, I'm a little miffed that my words have been deleted... is this common practice?

Finally - and again please correct me if I'm wrong - just because the article has been pasted from another website, doesn't automatically make it a copyright infringement - or does it? --Richardrj 21:18, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If an article has been copy/pasted from another website which states somewhere that the text it displays are copyrighted in any way, then yes, we can't use it. And yes also, a copy/pasted article tends to get speedied or at the very least replaced with a copyright infringement template. Inter\^Echo 21:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. In this case, there is nothing on the originating website to say that the text is copyright. Also, I had taken out some of the more egregious pasting as a prelude to improving the article. Do either of these affect the issue in any way? --Richardrj 21:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only two countries, Paraguay and Uruguay, still require that someone declare their work to be copyrighted rather than public domain; everywhere else, original work is the copyrighted property of its creator unless otherwise specified. Unless the author of the biography on this fansite has explicitly licensed their work under the GNU Free Documentation License, or declared it to be in the public domain, the content cannot be copied wholesale to Wikipedia. Removing part of the content does not change the copyright status of the rest of it. See Wikipedia:Copyright FAQ. --Kwekubo 21:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for that. What about my other questions - firstly, would it not have been better to have taken out the copyright material and left a single descriptive line as a stub? Then someone else could have come along and improved it. And secondly, is it OK for my contribution to the talk page to be deleted? --Richardrj 21:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk pages are deleted with their parent articles when the parent itself is deleted. Also, a stub could have been left, you'd have to asked the admin that deleted the article why they didn't just go that route instead of deleting the whole thing. It's up to the admin what they do with it, delete it or turn it into a stub. You can still recreate the article if you'd like and just make a small stub if the subject is notable. It just takes a second. Dismas|^(talk) 01:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like there was a bit of sloppiness all around. Admins who delete copy-paste copyvios should always remember to check the article's history; in this case there had been a short but original article for the better part of a year. I've restored the non-copyvio portion of the article's history. Editors (admins and otherwise) who spot copyvios should always check the article history for a non-copyvio version to which they can revert. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 05:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much! --Richardrj 07:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Status Quo

In the entry for the rock bad Status Quo, there is a link on the name of one of the band members (John Coughlan) but it links to a different John Coughlan. How do you make it link to the correct one?

Done. Basically all I did was go to the article for John Coghlan and saw that the second one was the one you were talking about. Then I changed the links to [[John Coghlan (drummer)|John Coghlan]] which looks like this: John Coghlan. Dismas|^(talk) 01:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

link to different person of same name

In the entry for the rock bad Status Quo, there is a link on the name of one of the band members (John_Coghlan) but it links to a different John Coghlan. How do you make it link to the correct one?

You'll have to create a disambiguation page first off. I'll do that for you. --Pilo t|guy ^{(roger that)} 22:19, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See your talk page. --Pilo t|guy ^{(roger that)} 22:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures of philosophers

Hello!

The image NussbaumMartha1.jpg has the template NoRightsReserved. I would like to use this image for the Dutch Wikipedia too, but I can't find the copyright notice on the website where it is downloaded from (source, not this source). Can you tell me what is the case? Special US laws for the .edu tld? Or has the uploader placed the wrong template?

Different case with Kolakowski.jpg. It has the template Attribution, but the source explicitly states All rights reserved (notice). Should this image be deleted from Wikipedia, or could there be something I have missed?

Best regards, Ilse@ 22:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like both of these images have been tagged with bogus and unsupported licenses. I have tagged them and listed them at WP:PUI for review/deletion. --Hetar 02:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the answer. Ilse@ 07:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 5

Image:World population.PNG

I want to upload a new version of this image that includes Montenegro. However, I am confused about licensing and what I am supposed to write. SCHZMO ✍ 00:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Basically, the license will still be exactly the same as the original image. The summary should also still include all information from the original image. The only difference is that you could just add a small note saying that you modified it to add Montenegro. --Hetar 02:45, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't Montenegro part of Serbia still? (Or Yugoslavia or "Serbia and Montenegro" or whatever.) Why would you add it to the map? · rodii · 13:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You should read the Main Page more, Rodii ;-). They declared independence 2 days ago. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 13:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

*blushes* · rodii · 12:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Numbers and Letters Quizes Dates in History

I am trying to find help with quiz answers that start with numbers then letters with answers being a historical fact, can u help? Thanks Betti Boo . 1979=W ?, 11901=AOA ?, 1981=WBO ?, 3158=HRTSP ?, 1924=TI ?, 71241=AOPH ?, 10468=WSIWH ?, 1990=AAAMT ?, 1879=EBPM ?, 2621839=FGNAA ?, 1091930=SHBJ ?. I really need some help with these. Thanx --210.86.41.19 00:41, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. SCHZMO ✍ 00:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking Contribs possible?

I find it frustrating that some people misuse the the "contribs" feature to cast aspersions on POV. I sometimes edit controversial subjects, and have been drug into debates about my POV based solely on the fact that I edit a number of articles on particular topics. A couple of editors have assumed (incorrectly -- ironically) that if I edit on a topic, I must therefore have some affiliation with, or affinity for, that topic, and that my further edits are therefore suspect.

Seems to me that edits should be discussed on their own merits, rather than on suspicions about the affiliations of the editor, yes? So I wonder whether this problem can be resolved by blocking from the view of the hoi-polloi my list of contributions? Is such a thing even possible? Thanks!

It is not technically possible. If someone were blocked, he or she would just need to sign out to see them again, or could create a new account. We cannot block them either, as it is public data under the Privacy policy, as well as required for the GFDL. Tito xd^{(?!? - help us)} 02:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Permission to copy from a Website

I have a permission from a an encyclopedic website to copy any of its material, as long as it is not used by itself for profit. Recognizing the nature of open editing of Wikipedia, they say only their initial text represents them, and they ask for two things: (1) we put a link, in the Sources section to the specific page we copied from. (2) put a category that includes all articles with material from their website. Is this permission OK? Does it violate GNU? If so, in what way, and what the permit should tentatively look like? --Shafei 03:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No; we can't use material under those conditions. The only text we can (re)use on Wikipedia must be material that is either in the public domain or material licensed under the GFDL. Wikipedia content isn't – and can't – be restricted to not-for-profit use. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 04:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If they agree to PD and waive not-for-profit, What about the requirements for citing them as a source, with a link? Also is specifying a category for articles using their material. OK? --Shafei 05:33, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Citing sources is a policy on WP anyway, so that part should be fine. Creating a category at their request probabaly wouldn't go over well though - it could be viewed as advertising, and would likely be deleted later (which could leave them upset)-Goldom (t) (Review) 06:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see thousands of their articles as possible sources. So, Can the permit look like this:

Website-A grants permission for copying for everybody from all its material. Because of WP's continuous editing environment, Website-A considers its original text the only representative of its views on the subject. Website-A requires:

mentioning its name as a source, with a link to the original article.
making available a list of all articles that use material from Website-A. (Shafei: They are not asking for category, but a category will be the easiest way to achieve this requirement).

Does such permit look OK? Because of the potential large number of articles, are there any further steps needed? --Shafei 13:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We can't make any offer of credit to them beyond the requirements of the GFDL and rigorous academic honesty (citation of our sources).

Particularly if you're looking to add thousands of articles to Wikipedia, it might be a very good idea to tell us what site you're talking about—this might allow us to discuss specifics, rathe than vague generalities. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Procedure for deleting an article

What is your policy regarding deleting articles. Is there a process if someone wishes to remove and article on Wikipedia? I've read about speedy deletion, but is there something more deliberative? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Postxian (talk • contribs) .

Please see WP:AfD. Also, don't forget to sign your posts on talk pages with ~~~~-Goldom (t) (Review) 04:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We've decided that putting the deletion policy at Wikipedia:Deletion policy would be the most logical. ;) - Mgm|^(talk) 12:02, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Duhhh....thanks! I don't know why I couldn't find it. I'm new here, as you might have guessed. Postxian 15:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

denist;s

i am looking for very good dentist

Try your local yellow pages. — TheKMan^talk 08:08, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

British English Vs American English

I have been unable to find a Wikipedia guide discussing the use of British English Vs American English. There are a number of spelling differences between the two languages that cause some contention when discussig some entries. If such a guide does not exist, can I suggest a guideline on the topic be created.

It's in the Manual of Style, under National varieties of English. Dismas|^(talk) 10:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is, of course, a common consideration, and guidelines can be found at Wikipedia:Manual of Style and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (spelling). The short answer is, if the topic is related to a regional dialect of English (e.g. London Underground was a recent one that came under question, but is clearly a British subject), use that region's dialect for spelling, punctuation, etc., if it's a region-neutral article, use whichever you prefer if you are the first major contributor, otherwise use whichever is currently used in the article.
It is not acceptable to change one to the other due simply to personal preference. Please also avoid words that have different meanings in a different major dialect – for examples see List of words having different meanings in British and American English. I hope that all helps, you're welcome to leave related questions on my talk page, but I strongly recommend a thorough read of WP:MOS for all serious editors. — Estarriol ^talk 10:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the very prompt response, a most useful guide (ie. National varieties of English). E! 20:47, 5 June 2006 (AEST)

send me about this

please send me all history of this. And how to iuse it . and how to make i an user id for any web sit . please send me quickly. and also send me the working of this and how to use i this web for my personal purposes......... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shkltariq (talk • contribs) .

Please see Wikipedia and Wikipedia:FAQ. Note that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not generic hosting for your website or something you may want to use for your own commerical purposes (if that's what you want). Of course, it is a free encyclopedia and you are more than welcome to use it for research, general reference and also to update it with honest, encyclopedic information (not commercial spam or vanity). — Estarriol ^talk 11:39, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you're interested in MediaWiki (the software used by Wikipedia), see MediaWiki and [1]. Hope that helps? --Keitei (talk) 18:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

united states of america~

contiguous states~

Do you have a question? Please elaborate if you do. — Estarriol ^talk 15:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For a list of U.S. states, see U.S. state. To find out about the contiguous states, read the Geography section of Alaska. Please note questions like this are best asked at the Reference desk; the Help desk is for questions related to editing Wikipedia. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 15:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image upload - fair use?

I wish to upload this image to Wikipedia, but I am unsure if it counts as fair use, or which copyright tag it would go under.

This disclaimer is shown on the bottom of the page containing the image:

the use of copyrighted materials is allowed strictly with a hyperlink to MaltaVista.net

Would it be acceptable to upload this image if I included the link to MaltaVista in the summary? And if so, which template will I need to use?

Thanks in advance. Wykebjs 16:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That small excerpt can be read in many different ways, and you'd really need more information to apply one of the licences that we accept. The best thing would be if you could email them and ask if they already have or want to release their materials under a free license (frex CC-BY-SA). If you don't get any explicit information, all you can do is to use it under Fair use. Be restrictive though, and note that uploading images as fair use requires rigour. I'd judge that your linked image is not acceptable fair use, since the image is not unique and we could make a free alternative. ❝Sverdrup❞ 16:58, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you can confirm commercial use is permitted, use the tag {{CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat|a link to http://www.MaltaVista.net is presented.}}, and provide a link back to the source of the image. — TheKMan^talk 17:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are images restricted in any way between language Wikipedias?

I'm an active Bulgarian Wikipedia editor. I find pictures at the Commons and already in other language pages on the topics I'm writing about. But, when I try to link to an image it rarely works and most photos don't come out at all. So my question is, are there any restrictions, and how am I supposed to overcome this problem? Thanks.

I want to upload a 1924 press release photo (jpg)made in Central Europe. What is the appropriate copyright description.

I also want to upload a pg for which I own the copyright.

In both instances the jpg is is rejected as *.* not acceptable.

Jlgordon 19:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

search box problem

I started a stub for the article Speaking with the Angel. In-site links seem to work fine, but putting speaking with the angel in the search box returns a bunch of irrelevant articles. Is there something wrong? --KyleGarvey 20:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, nothing wrong. Unless you put in the capitalization correctly, it won't find it for a few weeks though. That's how long the database usually takes to get updated. You could put in redirects or just wait for the db to update and thus search would work. Dismas|^(talk) 20:27, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(after edit conflict) Articles take a while to appear on the search lists. Google picks it up faster, but not immediately. I've added a redirect with that capitalisation now though, so it should take you directly to the article. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 20:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The process to rebuild the search index is started manually by one of the developers. This has not been done since at least March 8, 2006. I don't know why it's been so long, but it may be considerably longer than "a few weeks". -- Rick Block (talk) 20:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Damn! That is a long time! I was under the impression that it was roughly once a month or so and that's why I said "a few weeks". Dismas|^(talk) 04:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article not appearing in search

I created an article Motorcycle Headlight Modulators on May 19th and it still does not appear when I search for Motorcycle Headlight Modulators. Did I miss something when I saved my article?

Thanks!

No, you didn't miss anything. See the answer to the question above yours. By the way, I've moved your article to Motorcycle Headlight Modulator. Article titles should be at the singular form whenever possible for easy linking. If you need to link to the plural, you can type: [[Motorcycle Headlight Modulator]]s which will automatically include the 's' in the link, or use piped links. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:32, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Special characters - Music Notation

I've been reading music theory entries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_scale). What I believe to be sharp and flat notations are displaying as ? in FireFox and as an unidentified character in IE 6. Is there something I can do to get these accidentals to display propperly? Thanks. --69.211.17.174 21:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To my knowledge, I am afraid not.

Wikipedia uses Unicode which requires an appropriate font to be installed. Please see http://www.unicode.org/help/display_problems.html. I think the characters you're looking for are in this set. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 6

Nomination for Featured Article

I need help nominating the RENT article to be featured. I have done everything the directions told me, but I cannot get the nomination to show up on the nomination page. Please help! Political Mind 00:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, problem solved.

Changing headline

Hi

Can you tell me how to change the page headline? I have been able to edit the body of the text, but not the atcual name of the page - the page I am referring to is the Gibbs Quadski. I wish to remove the "Gibbs" from the headline as this is not it's official name and makes it difficult for people to find the page when they search for "quadski" as it does not come up unless they refer to it as "gibbs quadski"

Thanks

In this case, you should probably create a new article for Quadski, and hit the "#R" button above the edit window. Then type in Gibbs Quadski. From then on, when you search for Quadski, you'll be redirected automatically. To rename a page, though, hit the "Move" button at the top of the page, then enter its new destination. Let me know if you need anything else! :) – DakPow e rs (Talk) 02:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just went ahead ahead and moved the article for you, so the problem should be fixed now. For more info see Help:Moving a page and Help:Redirect. --Hetar 02:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly protect this page

The data in the article List of Indian languages by total speakers is being altered to show wrong data, by unregistered users. Kindly make it a protected page. --Masatran 04:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please request this at WP:RFPP --GeorgeMoney ^T·C 04:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personal identity, privacy

I hope this is the right thing to do, but I think it is important: I know that the individual known as KOMPRESSOR, an internet-based musician of some popularity, has repeatedly asked that his real name be removed from any site that publishes it, a request generally obliged. Because this has previously been explained as a matter of personal security and general privacy, I wonder whether it is appropriate that editors have repeatedly mentioned his name (once in the article, apparently long since removed, but then several times on the talk page).

I took the measure of replacing mention of his name on the talk page with asterisks, explaining my motivations. I don't believe it is right for any individual to be exposed on the personal level (including full name and home town) via Wikipedia due to "internet fame" if they have indicated that they don't wish for it to occur. I am not a friend of the person in question (in fact I always thought him rather obnoxious), but I really think it's a breech of WP's purpose and morality to act as some sort of internet gossip rag, especially when an individual's privacy is at stake. I am told that replacing someone else's comments on a talk page is a breech of policy, but I think it was appropriate in this case. Hopefully you can decide for yourselves. Fearwig 05:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your excisions (leaving in place, of course, your reasons for having redacted the name), an explanation for which I left on the article's talk page. Joe 06:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MTG characters (L)

MTG characters (L)'s headers don't look right and I can't figure out why. --68.52.65.122 09:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed it. Does that look better? Dismas|^(talk) 09:28, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki-linking from quotes

I'm almost certain that wikilinking words and phrases in a quote is forbidden by the Manual of Style, but haven't been able to find anything confirming this yet. I would have thought that the quote should be left 'clean', and that anything that needs explaining should be mentioned in the accompanying text before or after the quote, and linked there. Can anyone confirm this? Carcharoth 11:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, the current Manual of Style does not include such a stipulation. However, there is a proposed policy that you may want to take a look at, see: Wikipedia:Quotations should not contain wikilinks. --Hetar 16:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've started a discussion on the talk page there if people are interested. Carcharoth 18:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Publishing true stories

(title added retrospectively) Carcharoth 13:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC) [reply]

I would like to know how to publish an article on wikipedia which is a true story? pl give me details of the format. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.65.150.177 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia has a policy of No original research since it's an encyclopedia. This means that you can't tell your stories at Wikipedia, you rather "retell stories" by summarizing and citing sources. ❝Sverdrup❞ 14:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Telling stories shouldn't be done on Wikipedia period. Stories are to entertain people, encyclopedia articles are to inform people. I suggest you find a wiki at Wikia that better suits your needs. - Mgm|^(talk) 17:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Three in one: format of titles + notability + semi-protected pages

Hello; I hope I'm in the right place here - there are tons of pages like this to ask questions! If not, please someone direct me to the right place.

Now, I've added the section "Work" at Horatio Alger, Jr., which I hope is fine. Is this the right format? Can I create stubs for all these books? Which article titles should they have? The entire book title plus subtitle, or just the minimal main title? For example the first listed work: Abraham Lincoln, the Backwoods Boy; or, How A Young Rail-Splitter Became President. Should that be Abraham Lincoln (book), Abraham Lincoln, the Backwoods Boy, or Abraham Lincoln, the Backwoods Boy; or, How A Young Rail-Splitter Became President? Should I make redirects for the others?
I've found that there's no article for this person. Can I add it? How do I find whether he's notable enough? He's written a number of books, so I'd take it information on him is worth including.
Some pages (Abraham Lincoln) are "semi-protected" for anonymous users, but also for new users (like me). What exactly is the period one is considered a new user? Not that I've got anything for Abe right now, but I'm just curious.

Thanks, Charles Cassidy 15:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Traditionally, the subtitle is not included. The one exception to this is with short titles, for disambiguation. So for example, if there is already an article called Abraham Lincoln (book) then you could use Abraham Lincoln: The Backwoods Boy. More information at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books).
WP:BIO lists criteria for determining the notability of people. Looks like your guy probably merits an article.
Anonymous accounts, and user accounts less than 96 hours old can not edit semi-protected pages.

--Hetar 16:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the answers. Charles Cassidy 16:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Skin

I just want to change a "skin" in "my preferences", but the link doesn' work. It seems corrupted. For the answers, please use my talk page (meladina 15:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]

E-mailing

Can I e-mail a article from Wikipedia?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Searcher1951 (talk • contribs) .

If you are asking if you need special permission to forward Wikipedia content via email, or to copy it elsewhere, you don't; Wikipedia is made available under a free license called the GFDL that permits copying and re-use under most circumstances (see Wikipedia:Copyrights). If you're asking how to email Wikipedia articles, that basically depends on your web browser; I don't believe there's a special web-based service on Wikipedia that will automatically mail an article to an addreess entered in a form. However, most web browsers have a method of mailing a web page (or a link to a web page), or else you can save it as an HTML file on your hard disk and send it as an email attachment. Hope this helps. MCB 01:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Variables in templates

Hi! I'm an admin from Slovenian Wikipedia and would like to ask here for some help on using variables as part of templates. I have been trying to add a date based on variables {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} and {{CURRENTYEAR}} in a specific template on Slovenian Wikipedia. The template should work so that when it is substed the variables are substed too, but when it is only transcluded the variables are not shown at all. Is it technically possible to achieve this and how is it done? Thanks very much.

I've also posted this question to WP:VP (technical). --Eleassar ^{my talk} 17:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article on money cannot be fetched

I tried everal times to access the article on money, but only got the following error:

Error in fetchObject(): Deadlock found when trying to get lock; Try restarting transaction

Backtrace: GlobalFunctions.php line 658 calls wfBacktrace() Database.php line 588 calls wfDebugDieBacktrace() Database.php line 1812 calls Database::fetchObject() LinkBatch.php line 90 calls ResultWrapper::fetchObject() LinkBatch.php line 69 calls LinkBatch::executeInto() Skin.php line 192 calls LinkBatch::execute() Skin.php line 171 calls Skin::preloadExistence() SkinTemplate.php line 108 calls Skin::initPage() MonoBook.php line 28 calls SkinTemplate::initPage() SkinTemplate.php line 155 calls SkinMonoBook::initPage() OutputPage.php line 588 calls SkinTemplate::outputPage() OutputPage.php line 808 calls OutputPage::output() Database.php line 469 calls OutputPage::databaseError() Database.php line 412 calls Database::reportQueryError() Database.php line 1337 calls Database::query() JobQueue.php line 61 calls Database::delete() Wiki.php line 285 calls Job::pop() Wiki.php line 245 calls MediaWiki::doJobs() index.php line 137 calls MediaWiki::finalCleanup() index.php line 3 calls require()

It's working for me: money. Wikipedia is one of the most accessed sites in the entire world, and because of this, the servers sometimes encounter errors under the strain. It's usually nothing serious, just try reloading, or wait a few minutes and hours, and try again. JIP | Talk 18:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User Messages bar

Is there any way, by changing my custom CSS, to change the text of the "New Messages" bar? I'd like to change mainly so I don't keep falling for "You have new messages" boxes on user pages... smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 18:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can't change the new messages bar text from css, but you can change the color. But, if you change the color, even the fake ones will look like the color you want. The text for the new messages is located at MediaWiki:Youhavenewmessages --69.236.20.213 18:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I tried changing the colour. Oh well... smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 18:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Book cover use

Hi. I've been at WP for a little while but never really done anything substantial. My first big edit was creating & writing the article on 9tail Fox, which is an sf novel. Not long ago, some kind user added a whole template box thingy to it (What're those things called? top right of the article) and I thought I'd have a go at filling it it, but got stuck on the "image of cover" bit.

I've read WP:FU, and it says low-res book covers are allowed but equally the Upload page specifically says not to upload an image from the Web. My question is: do I have to go rent the book from my library and scan in the cover to be able to upload it as {{book cover}}, or can I just use a reasonably-sized pic from Google Images? Please response on my talk page or at 9tail Fox, I'll never remember to check back here. Thanks for reading this! Tyrhinis 20:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As it says on the Upload page, "Most images on the internet are copyrighted and are not appropriate for uploading to Wikipedia." In this case, the book cover is copyrighted, and any image of the cover is copyrighted by the artist or publisher, but you should be able to upload the image under fair use. Just tag it with {{book cover}} and post a link back to the source. — TheKMan^talk 20:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposing a style change to a category of articles

Without getting into the details here, I'd like to propose a formatting change to classical music articles (e.g. Symphony No. 5 (Beethoven)), basically creating a standard template from which all articles would come. However, I'd like it to be done communally (this is Wikipedia, after all) with a central place for dialogue to happen before affecting any changes. Is there a place for this? And how would I go about notifying the authors of the articles and others who may be interested? Would I really have to resort to a blurb on the talk page of each piece [gulp]? Andrewski 21:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest you visit the Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music, post your idea on its talk page and have someone with a bot post a quick note to people who've shown an interest in those kind of articles. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:18, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks very much; I didn't know this existed! For future reference, how would I search specifically for such a thing?
  - A hierarchical list of WikiProjects can be found at Wikipedia:List of WikiProjects. --MCB 01:25, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Knowing the syntax for those links helps, but once you do, you can stumble upon such a project by accident like I did. I just typed in the name and found its link was blue. - Mgm|^(talk) 04:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

copyright clarification needed

Our church is doing a series on King David and I would like to use information from your article on Michelangelo's David in our church bulletin. We publish paper bulletins only, no web, so I am not sure whether this is possible under the terms of your copyright. I could mail you a paper copy of the bulletin so you could see our use of your material. We would need to make about 175 copies of the bulletin for use at our three Sunday services. Any help you can give would be appreciated.

It doesn't matter if you use it on the web or in print. As long as you provide the URL of the article, you're okay. You say "I would like to use". If you want to use the information, but phrase it in your own words, copyright isn't a problem. Only the way it's written down can be copyrighted, the facts themselves can't be. If you decide to write it down in your own words, you still need to cite your sources (i.e. say you used Wikipedia's article to find the info). - Mgm|^(talk) 22:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In the case of an actual copy of an article, it does matter if it is on the web or in print, whether it's verbatim or a derivative copy, and whether the number of copies exceeds 100; there are some requirements about making a machine-readable copy available (or possibly the URL of Wikipedia), and providing the full text of the GFDL (the free license under which Wikipedia is provided). Please see Wikipedia:Copyrights, Wikipedia:Verbatim copying, and in particular the sections on Copying in Quantity and Printed Copies. Hope this helps, --MCB 01:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 7

Common names: For Wikipedia or Wiktionary?

Hi. I am wanting to update several articles about personal names (and the occasional surname), and I can't figure out which site would be best to place the content on. If the pages are going to be describing the meaning on the names, which will be the majority of what I want to do, then it would presumably be an article for Wiktionary. The only encyclopedic content may feature lists of people with such names, and we already have that massive list of people by name page for that sort of thing. (Though, for first names, I don't believe we have that.) I may want to mention that certain people popularized certain names, but I could just do it on those people's pages as well. Basically, where would it be best to put entries about first and last names? -- transaspie 00:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For an example of a Wikipedia article about a personal name, see William (name). If you plan to create something like that, a Wikipedia article is fine. MCB 01:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What to do with these articles?

A user, User:Natter(contribs), has been creating a number of one line articles about species of animals. I'm really rather unsure what to do about them though since they should have articles but surely not this short. So what tags should be put on them or what should be done with them? A sample of the articles: Cycloderma, Trionyx, Palea, Cyclanorbis, Amyda, etc. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 02:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They all seem to have been deleted as "Very short articles providing little or no context". --Sam Blanning^(talk) 11:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, now they have... yeah. Dismas|^(talk) 21:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page on deleted article

Hi, is it possible to delete a talk page of a deleted article? An administrator deleted an War for the throne, but the talk page is still there. Just wondering. Bye --Starionwolf 03:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, in most cases talk pages should be deleted along with the article in question. If you come across such a page again, please tag it using {{db|reason}}, replacing 'reason' with something like 'is talk page of deleted article. If you tag it correctly, an administrator will come along and do the deletion for you. - Mgm|^(talk) 04:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks for the reply. I'm still new to Wikipedia. Bye --Starionwolf 19:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Someone deleted the talk page before before I had a chance to put the DB tag on it. lol Bye the administration team is fast! --Starionwolf 04:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ratu Sukuna

I type another article of Ratu Sukuna on his Failures and I'm wonderfing what happened to it. My log name was Nabukubukunivalu. You can reach me on (email removed to protect from spam)

We've never had an article called Ratu Sukuna, Ratu Sukuna on his Failures or lowercase variants of that name. Possible reasons why such an article may have been deleted can be found at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion - from your post it sounds rather like an attack page, or "Articles that serve no purpose but to disparage their subject". --Sam Blanning^(talk) 10:58, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Searching Wikipedia

I notice that if I want to find the entry for TunaHAKI Foundation using your search engine, I must type it exactly in that way. How can I fix it so if someone types just Tunahaki, without the capitalization and without the word 'foundation', so that a search will still bring them to the page? e-mail address removed - you really don't want that much spam, do you? — Estarriol ^talk 10:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You should create redirects to all alternative spellings and capitalisations that are likely to be searched on. I will create the first for you as an example (Tunahaki Foundation). — Estarriol ^talk 10:14, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Incidentally, please see Wikipedia:Notability for notes as to why the article has been challenged in an Articles For Deletion proceeding. I'll also do some investigation and take part in that process; I encourage you to do likewise. — Estarriol ^talk 10:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If you type the exact title and hit "Go" you are sent to the page in question. For an article to be include in the search database so it can be found with non-complete search terms takes more time. -- Mgm|^(talk) 11:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proper titling of an article about a flood

How would I title an article about a specific flood. Would it be 2005 Example River Flood or something else? If it is the example I gave, would "flood" be capitalized, since it does seem to be proper there? Thanks, Chuck 08:07, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the examples in Flood#Significant modern floods, it seems to vary. Most are capitalised (Red River Flood, 1997, Great Flood of 1993), some are not (2000 Mozambique flood, 1931 Yellow River flood). My intuition, and the examples so far, suggest that it is proper to capitalise for the reason you cite. Please remember to use redirects for possible alternative spellings/capitalisations. — Estarriol ^talk 10:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, what if the flood concerned a few close quartered rivers, how would an article be titled then (each river probably doesn't need it's own articles, but rather just a section). Thanks again, Chuck 08:07, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can again only suggest that you take inspiration from the names in the Flood article. What was the flood called in the media? — Estarriol ^talk 10:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chick Skin

I was playing with my preferences and changed my skin to Chick. The skin causes overlaps with text and fields so I tried to change to another skin, however the skin seems to prevent some save button (including ctrl-s) from working when editing my profile, so now I'm stuck with this skin. Any thoughts on how I can change to another skin? - S.ferguson 09:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried clicking the reset button? This resets the skin to the Monobook skin (default skin)Harryboyles 11:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The solution is to go to this link and change to another skin. --Commander Keane 14:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, forcing it to use another skin worked. It appears to me that there are some useability issues with the Chick skin, is there a process for reporting this? - S.ferguson 18:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That would need to go straight to the developers. Tito xd^{(?!? - help us)} 07:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chick is for PDA's I think.--Commander Keane 21:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Logged out

Since one or two days ago my account is constantly logged out. Sometimes it's even logged out if I go to the Main Page. Why is this? I've made a change in my browser (IE) to save URLs for seven days rather than the standard 20, but that's all. Then I've tried using the lowest security level, "Accept all cookies" but still it's the same. What can I do to stop being logged out? Jack Daw 09:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the cookie is corrupt. Clear your browsers cache (in IE: press Ctrl-F5). Also make sure you tick the "Remember me" box when you log in.--Commander Keane 14:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually clearing the cache may not fix corrupt cookies, perhaps go Tools, Options, Delete Cookies.--Commander Keane 14:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still keeps logging out. Jack Daw 22:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you using a firewall? I had a similar problem that persisted for about a week, until I altered my firewall settings. I changed it so that Wikipedia was allowed to set third party cookies and the problem cleared up instantly. Road Wizard 23:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea :D How do I find out? Jack Daw 10:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Retroactively replacing anon moniker

Is there a way I can retroactively replace my anon moniker Mightberight/wrong (which I used before becomeing a Registerd editor), with my registerd moniker GoodDay? GoodDay 13:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a good idea to change the moniker on all talk pages as it creates unneccesary load on the servers. I learnt this the hard way when I got pulled up for fixing spelling erors on talk archives. (quote from my talk page) "Each time you commit a change you are saving the entire text of the article as a new entry in the database, which is an amount of overhead that simply isn't worth it for fixing miscellaneous errors in old text on talk pages that no one really cares about." Just leave the talk pages as they are. Harryboyles 07:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oops! I've also went back and corrected spelling errors (in the past). Very well, I'll stop these actions, please forgive my inappropiate actions, I was unaware of the headaches it was causing. GoodDay 13:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And you can, of course, make a note on your userpage that you used to be Mightberight/wrong. Skittle 10:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I handle an article that is full of errors?

I am new to Wikipedia. I am a professional dance instructor. I was referred to the article in Wikipedia about East Coast Swing by one of my students. The article is so full of errors that it can not be safely edited. How do I go about asking that the article be removed and totally replaced by correct information for the topic of interest. I have posted an entry to "my talk" and to the topic's discussion page. I feel that this bears more direct and immediate attention though.

--AttitudeDanceStudios 14:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the article is rubbish feel free to be bold and delete all the wrong information. When you do that use a good edit summary and explain why you did it on the talk page. Hopefully the article will be able to grow nicely after this pruning.--Commander Keane 14:50, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Write a better article, put it in its place and explain what was so wrong about the old article. Mgm|^(talk) 15:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to do whatever you like to improve the article, and don't worry too much about messing it up as there are plenty of users round here to fix it. Take a look at WP:BOLD. Andrew 18:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question about Wikipedia:Article size

Wikipedia:Article size explains that "external links, further reading, references, see also, and similar sections; tables, list-like sections, and similar content; and markup, interwiki links, URLs and similar formatting should not be counted toward an article's total size since the point is to limit readable prose." The Hugo Chávez article is currently (after a lot of work to reduce its size over the last month from 99KB) at 72KB, and is loaded with pictures, (repetitive) templates, tables, and (biased) references. The end result is that, even if the prose is an acceptable size (I think it's not, since it still reads like an ad campaign for Chavez and socialism, and there are multiple lengthy sections that could be split into daughter articles, which would also reduce references), the article is time-consuming to edit on my browser (IE6) because the page takes too long to load. Diffs and history are also difficult to check because of the time they take to load. I have stopped checking diffs because it takes too long. Can someone help me understand the options here? Is this an IE6 problem, or should the article be a size that allows one to easily work on it, and should the lengthy sections be moved to the (already established) daughter articles? It's not productive to try to work on the article, because of its slow load time, but other editors have argued that the article size/length is fine. [2] [3] TIA, Sandy 17:26, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've just had a very quick look through the talk page, and I think the best thing to do is have a careful read of the Wikipedia:Resolving disputes page. I'd also read lots of policy; it'll really help you to argue your case. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 17:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really consider it a dispute, just a policy I need to understand, and whether it might be related to my browser ? If it's OK for an article to be so long that you can't edit it, then I'm not interested in trying to work on it, so want to understand the issue. Sandy

You can carry out section edits by clicking the "Edit" link by the heading of each section; this will mean that only the Wikicode for the relevant section will be displayed in the edit box. I don't know if this will help (if you've tried it already, just ignore this). Andrew 18:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Andrew, I have done that, and it does help, but my bigger concern is checking history and diffs. When I click on the History tab, and look at last changes, they take too long. I don't believe there is a way around that? Sandy 19:18, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a look at the diffs of the article Hugo Chávez myself, and I can see your problem. I tried adding section=1 to the end of the URL in the address bar, but it still loads the whole article, which like you say is particularly large (there are 93 references, for example). Since displaying diffs for one section at a time doesn't seem to work, I don't know how you'd get round it. The article is already tagged for cleanup, but I'll see if there's another tag for shortening the length of the article. Andrew 21:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added the verylong tag, and another editor removed it. I just find it unproductive to work on an article that is this long, and wish we could move out some major chunks of text, to make it easier to edit. I'd like to add back the tag, but not without consensus. Sandy 23:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies/verified users

How do you become a "member" to "check the 'openness' of the prxy"? Neither the page here or WP:OP explain how to become "no the list". Anybody know? Thanks, Kilo-Lima|^(talk) 18:20, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can check the openness of a proxy without being a member, it's a technical skill. If you don't know how to do that then you're probably better off not being a member. If you do and want to join then you should probably ask one of the administrators on this list to add you, assuming you meet their other criteria. --Cherry blossom tree 21:50, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Invisible Page

This may not be the appropriate place to ask this, but why is the Class of the Titans wikipage never found when I search for it using the search engine here? Or perhaps I should ask, where should I report this apparent glitch?

The search index from which the Wikipedia search engine takes its results is updated irregularly on a manual basis by a developer. Apparently Class of the Titans isn't included yet. It's annoying, but not a glitch. Generally, Google takes it in quicker. Try finding articles by adding "site:en.wikipedia.org" to the end of your google searches. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- ... and if you're really asking about the "go" button (not search), although "go" acts like it's case insensitive for most article titles, some require adding a redirect. I've added Class Of The Titans which will let you "go" to this article based on any case entry of the right letters. -- Rick Block (talk) 20:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

Me again. I've found this article on the Dead-end pages list. However, I'm having troubles finding the guidelines for the notability of schools here. Where can I find out whether this one meets the criteria? If it doesn't, do I list this at AFD? (I'd move the page to the correct title but I can't yet). Thanks, Charles Cassidy 21:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is any guidance on what to do with articles about schools as no one has been able to agree on what makes a school notable. You may find the Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments page interesting as it lists many of the key points made in previous discussions. Road Wizard 21:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's now been moved to the correct place. I didn't follow any of the school debates, but I understand that any school nominated for AFD will be kept, so there's not much point. --Cherry blossom tree 21:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing as it is the only accredited school for people with learning disabilities in the area, I think it's more notable than your regular school. I moved it and did some formatting. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the answers! Another thing I've learned here. Charles Cassidy 22:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename an article

I created an article about Helmer Swenholt. Today I found out I have misspelled the name, there is no "d" in the last name (should be Swenholt). Evidently the "d" was dropped by his father. What is the solution to this? I would like to correct the error. I suppose I will have to correc the other linkst, too but how do I rename the original article? Mfields1 23:01, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Click on the "move" tab at the top of the article, provide the correct title and a reason (typo), click "move page", and voila. Using "move" is preferable to "cutting and pasting" because it keeps the page history intact. — TheKMan^talk 23:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 8

Problem solved.

edits

How can I view my edit count? Geo.plrd 01:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See Special:Contributions/Geo.plrd. You'll have to count them a page at a time. Dismas|^(talk) 01:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can also go here, follow the instructions, and then visit User:Interiot/Tool2/code.js?username=Geo.plrd. Kalani ^[talk] 01:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I always used the German wikimedia counting tool--M @r ē ino 01:48, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spacing help

I'm working on translating a Spanish Wikipedia article, Lope de Barrientos. At the end of the present text there's a poem which I have translated, attempted to offset the English from the Spanish text with a fair amount of spacing. I used non-breaking spaces to achieve this effect, but it only lines up properly in Internet Explorer; when I look at the page in Firefox, it's all cockeyed. I'm sure there's a better way to do this. Please dazzle me.--Fuhghettaboutit 02:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Better? -- Rick Block (talk) 03:50, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen poems and anthems translated in a table side by side. - Mgm|^(talk) 04:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Which is exactly what Rick has done. Hat's off to you. Much obliged.--Fuhghettaboutit 04:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with IP Address??

I recently looked at Wikipedia and it said I had new messages, even though i wasnt logged in (Nidis is my username, im the only person who uses this computer). But i checked my messages, and i got this as shown below:

User talk:144.139.71.56 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search

Attention:

This IP address, 144.139.71.56, is registered to Telstra and may be shared by multiple users. Comments left on this page may be received by other users of this IP and appear to be irrelevant. Caution should be used when blocking this IP or reverting its contributions without checking.

If you are an unregistered user operating from this address, note that this need not necessarily be the IP address of your machine. In many cases, it turns out to be the IP address of a proxy server that communicates between your browser and the Wikimedia servers. Such proxies are shared among a huge number of users compared to the number of persons using your particular machine. If you are frustrated by irrelevant comments appearing here, you can avoid them by creating an account for yourself.

However, you might still be unable to edit Wikipedia if the IP you are using is blocked due to a MediaWiki "feature". In such a case you could request to be unblocked.

In the event of vandalism from this address, efforts will be made to contact Telstra to report network abuse.

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to John Howard, are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thanks. Tangotango 06:53, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to John Howard, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Rjm656s 07:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC) [edit]

Your edit to John Howard

Your recent edit to John Howard was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // Tawkerbot2 07:12, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism, and if you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thank you. Kevin 07:23, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, as you did to John Howard, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Kevin 07:27, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

You have been temporarily blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. Please note that page blanking, addition of random text or spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, and repeated and blatant violation of WP:NPOV are considered vandalism. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may come back after the block expires. ~Kylu (u|t) 07:30, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

This is the discussion page for an anonymous user, identified by the user's numerical IP address. Some IP addresses change periodically, and may be shared by several users. If you are an anonymous user and feel that irrelevant comments have been directed at you, please create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other anonymous users. If you're concerned with privacy, registering also hides your IP address. [RIR WHOIS lookup: America — Europe — Africa — Asia-Pacific — Latin America/Caribbean]

Whats the go? I havent editted any pages about John Howard!! I've only editted a few pages about the band Tool and maybe some pages about anime, and always for the better, not vandalism! Whats the go?

The top of the talk page states: "This IP address, 144.139.71.56, is registered to Telstra and may be shared by multiple users. Comments left on this page may be received by other users of this IP and appear to be irrelevant." Since you are on a shared IP address, the best way to avoid such messages is to remain logged in. Hope this helps — TheKMan^talk 04:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like Telstraworks much the same as AOL and shares IP adresses between users. So you may be the only one to use that computer, but not the only one with that IP. If you haven't edited the article in question, you can safely ignore such messages, they'll be meant for someone else. Besides, you say you have a username, but you didn't login. Otherwise your messages would be at User talk:Nidis, not User talk:144.139.71.56. - Mgm|^(talk) 04:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

scientfic aptitude questions

routinly asked questions in scientfic aptitude

Please read the instructions at the top of this page. You have not described your problem in full sentences and I suspect this belongs on the reference desk instead as it has nothing to do with how to edit wikipedia. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:50, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to make bold strokes in math mode

Hi, I'm wondering how to make a bold stroke in math mode, that is $\,|$ , only in bold. The canonical method <math>\boldsymbol|</math> does not seem to make any difference, $|{\textrm {\ vs.\ }}{\boldsymbol {|}}$ . Some pixels are actually different when I view the enlarged image but it's nothing really visible. I tried to make bold strokes using standard wiki syntax, | vs. |, but the outcome is font and font size dependent (I see no difference using the standard font size, for larger fonts it works better). There's a dirty trick using sans serif I's, ${\mathsf {I}}$ , but that is a semantically inferior solution. How can I make a reliable, semantically sound bold stroke?--GrafZahl 08:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

copyright question

I asked a question above ([4]) about the deletion of an article, large parts of which were taken from a website. Obviously there were copyright issues here. The article has now been restored, minus the copyvio parts. But I've now come to realise that the person who pasted the text into the article may be the same person who wrote the website. If so, what is the copyright position then? --Richardrj 09:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IANAL, but I believe there would have to be some sort of declaration along the lines of "I, the creator of this copyrighted work, hereby release this text to be licensed under the GFDL, to be used on Wikipedia and all texts that cite it under the terms of that license." They may also be able to add some kind of restriction on it (eg. must be attributed to them in some way), but otherwise I'm pretty sure that's it. Confusing Manifestation 09:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CM is right. Even if they wrote the material themselves, they'd still need to release it udner the GFDL or another compatible license. You can send them a message from Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for these replies. But how does this work in practice? It's not me that wants to add the copyright material - I personally don't think it's right for the article - it's the original author himself. So I can hardly send him a request for permission. If he wanted to put his own material on WP, where would he make the declaration - on the originating website? On the article's talk page? Or somewhere else? --Richardrj 10:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Either by emailing the proper address at Wikipedia:Contact us (using a domain that can be traced to the site in question) or by posting a note to that effect on the site. We can't take their word for it that it's theirs we need to verify they are who they say they are. What article and material are we talking about? - Mgm|^(talk) 12:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article is Test Dept. See my earlier question for the context. Please note, I am just asking this out of curiosity - I don't know for sure that the person who previously uploaded the copyright material is the same person as the owner of the website, nor do I know whether he wishes to restore it. --Richardrj 12:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect icon

Can anyone explain why, when editing, I used to have available to me an icon for "Redirect", but it seems to have disappeared? I'm feeling stupid that I can't work it out for myself! Dweller 10:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A quick look at http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=US&redirect=no shows the image is still there. Clicking it should give you the exact location, but if you want to redirect, you don't need to know that. Following the proper syntax will insert the image automatically. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I actually meant the #R that appears on the editing tool bar, but thanks. Interestingly, it has mysteriously returned since I posted my message. Dweller 12:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The #R icon is skin dependent. The icon shows if you are using using the MonoBook (default) skin but not available with Classic. I don't know about the other skins. --hydnjo talk 12:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

After checking: the #R icon is available only when using the MonoBook skin. Also, when using the Simple skin there are no edit icons at all. --hydnjo talk 12:23, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Being something of a noob, I've no idea what skins are. I just use IE v6.0. I've not made any amendments to my browser settings before during or after noticing the icon disappear and reappear :-) Dweller 12:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Skin" refers the overall appearance and formatting of a WP page and is selectable through your "preferences" setting. See Help:Preferences#Skin for more details. --hydnjo talk 12:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC) addendum: If you've made no changes, then I have no clue as to what would make the #R icon go and come back. Anyone? --hydnjo talk 12:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

logging in

Hi um i had this old account but then i forgot the password to it so then i pressed the e-mail new password button when i remembered wheni created my account i had used my old email addreess that i dont use any more so is there like any way i can get my old account back? --71.68.13.79 15:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not unless you can remember the password. Of course, you can always create a new account. --Hetar 18:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Next time you switch email address, make sure you know the passwords for all the stuff you signed up for. You generally need your email address to retrieve your password, if you can't access anymore and don't remember the password, there's nothing we can do. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

fission of mercury

Dear others iam in searching of fission method of mercury, can one of you helph me in this subject.

my e-mail email address removed

Waiting for your Responce

Dr Bhargav

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. --Kwekubo 17:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

common wealth list of universities

hi i want the complete list of common wealth list of universities in world

Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Kwekubo 17:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need help with images

in the article hand grenade im trying to make the 2nd picture apear as wide as the one above it, 198px, but it keeps showing up in huge full size.•USER•ADAM THE ATOM•TALK• 17:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it has been fixed by another user. --Hetar 18:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation page?

Frida points to a movie page, there should be a way to have it also point to Anni-Frid Lyngstad I think what needs to be done is to create a disambiguation page offering the choice which page?

Is this correct and how is this done? Rujholla 18:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Normally, if there is only one other possible use for a term, it is easier to insert a short notice at the top of the article. Check out Frida now and you will see what I'm talking about. --Hetar 18:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

cool thx -- Rujholla 18:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Potential Spam Victim

Going through the User Creation Log I saw a new user who had apparently included their email address in their username. [5] I include it here as an external link to avoid posting their email address further. I've raised this issue on their talk page, but I don't really know what the best thing to do would be if they decided they didn't want their email address available for spamming. If they decided this, would it be possible to delete their account? Or are they now stuck with that, but can start a new account to avoid posting their email address in too many places?

Note that I don't know yet whether this will be a concern to them, but I'd like an answer ready ASAP if it is. Thanks for any help. Skittle 18:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can request a name change at Wikipedia:Changing username. Of course, if the account only has a few edits, it would be easier to just create a new one. New users frequently use their email address as their username, so its not something I view as that big of a deal. Accounts are never deleted btw, but you do have the right to vanish. --Hetar 18:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think a developer would be willing to change that name for them, but the user would need to be aware first. I think I'm going to suggest an addition to Wikipedia:Username and the register screen to recommend not using your email address. -- Mgm|^(talk) 19:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

bug not fixed

Using Safari on Mac OS X, I noticed a bug in the mediawiki software - the edit toolbar does not appear when I try to edit a page in this browser. Searching the list of known bugs, I found that someone else had already noticed this - [6]. However, the bug report states that the bug is fixed - it isn't. The edit toolbar still doesn't appear with Safari. Can anyone help? Thanks very much. --Richardrj 19:50, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to bring this up at the technical section of the Village pump, for technical issues. -- Natalya 20:11, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've done this now. Thanks very much! --Richardrj 04:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you using the browser's most recent version? -= Mgm|^(talk) 04:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently not. I'll look into that tonight. Thanks! --Richardrj 08:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I Make A Discography?

Hi there!

Can you please give me some assistance for how to make a discography for an artist?

There are many ways of doing it - a simple list, a table or something more expansive and probably many more. You should probably decide which style you like and click "edit this page" to see how the effect was achieved. If you have any more specific questions feel free to come back. --Cherry blossom tree 23:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Watching out for new entries in a category?

Is there any way I can be notified when a new entry appears in a given category? Watching the category page itself doesn't seem to do what I want. Thanks for your help. -- noosphere 22:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can't, I'm afraid. Because pages are added to categories by editing the page itself rather than the category, you'd have to be watching that page to see the change. --Cherry blossom tree 23:23, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The only solution I can think of is to get a Bot to do the scanning for you at regular intervals. I am pretty sure there are bots which do category watching currently. Ans e ll 00:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The "Related changes" link (in the navigation frame on the left) on a category page shows changes to articles in the category which includes the change adding an article to a category. Although not exactly what you want, this seems pretty close. See Help:Related changes. -- Rick Block (talk) 13:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 9

Legal question

Am I allowed to post a direct link to the Paska Ankka webcomics? According to the Finnish Aku Ankka (Donald Duck) comic, Paska Ankka violates their copyright, and as such I think the webcomics are illegal. Is it still allowed to post a direct link to them? JIP | Talk 04:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you think the web site in question is infringing, you should probably avoid linking to it. The Wikipedia guideline on external links says: "External sites can possibly violate copyright. Linking to copyrighted works is usually not a problem, as long as you have made a reasonable effort to determine that the page in question is not violating someone else's copyright. If it is, please do not link to the page. Whether such a link is contributory infringement is currently being debated in the courts, but in any case, linking to a page that illegally distributes someone else's work sheds a bad light on us (see Wikipedia:Copyrights and in particular Contributors' rights and obligations)." Hope this helps. MCB 06:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

modifying the information provided by a template

Hi there, I'm working on the article [KPSU] and just found the "radio stations in Portland, OR" template which you can see here:

Since KPSU is both an AM and a FM station I'd like to stick KSPU into that template somehow, but I can't figure out how to do it. Is it possible? Thanks a lot. You can message me at my userpage.Katsam 04:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Simply edit Template:Portland(OR) AM and Template:Portland(OR) FM and insert links to KSPU. Kalani ^[talk] 05:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a link next to "my contributions"

I'd like to add the link "random image" to the list of links at the top of all my Wikipedia pages, next to "my contributions". I think I've seen screenshots of things like this done before; maybe you modify monobook.css or something like that. I looked around in the help pages for a while, but I couldn't find anything that said how to do this. —Bkell (talk) 07:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image Tag

I asked the United Nations for a photo and they replied:

"These photographs may be used only in editorial contexts and not for advertising purposes." They said that they are giving it to me for free and for use in Wikipedia.

But what type of tag can be given to this? will it still be useful? Or should I just go back to them and ask for another GFDL permission? Thanks! R Davidson 09:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia material should be free for re-use including commercial purposes. If they only allow use on Wikipedia (and not outside it) and restrict it to non-commercial, I'm afraid you can't use it. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:27, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Restriction on non-registered users?

When was article creation for non-registered users restricted, and what is the rationale? Additionally, was this a debate? If so, where can I find the relevant discussion page?

72.10.102.37 14:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The rationale is that if vandals/creators of nonsense pages have to register, they are less likely to bother - and that a high percent of such pages were coming from anon users. The discussion says it is at the WP:VP/T, but its been archived, and I dunno in which archive, dig around in there if you want to find it. While I'm all for letting anons edit, I have to admit that the creation of speedy-deletable articles has gone way, way down since this rule. Creating an account is easy, free, and still completely anonymous if you want it to be. (More, actually, since it hides your IP). -Goldom (t) (Review) 14:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The restriction has been in place since at least December of last year. It was done by executive fiat (from Jimbo Wales), so although there was discussion after the fact there was no debate and consensus leading to this change. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question about a strange use of page

There is a page I've been watching for a few days, which I feel is probably just in the wrong place. However, I have too little knowledge on the subject to know where it should go. The article in question is Cell biology (disambiguation). I mentioned my concern to the creator on the talk page - namely, that this is not a disambiguation. I felt it would better be placed at "list of... something". He wrote a lengthy reply, but to be honest I'm not really sure what he's trying to say. I think someone who knows about the topic should probably look at it and reccommend what to do. If anyone here can, that would be great, or if there is a better place to post this? (I don't know of any places to ask for review that aren't either to see how great it is, or resolve a dispute, neither of which really apply.) -Goldom (t) (Review) 15:08, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, you're right, it needs a move. It's actually great work on MaxEnt's part but it's not in the right place. I've backed the suggestion on the talk page to that effect, and will act on it soon enough once MaxEnt has had time to read and reply. If I seem to be forgetting about this, please give me a nudge within a week or so on my talk page. Cheers. — Estarriol ^talk 16:23, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Oops. Should I not have moved it then? I have, just now. Max didn't seem to be against the rename, just talking about how important he found the page. Skittle 16:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - No, that's OK. It was an obvious move, and nobody would really have a leg to stand on in arguing against it. Good work. — Estarriol ^talk 17:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - Thanks guys! That's where I thought it should go, but couldn't tell if he had a problem with it or not. I'm glad I didn't mark it for deletion back when he started it and it looked like a pile of nonsense - maybe something good's come out of it. -Goldom (t) (Review) 01:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Password change question

Someone [not me] from IP address 169.244.143.115

[which has been repeatedly blocked for vandalism -- it's the Maine public schools shared IP] tried to reset my password.

Someone's just bored and playing with the blinkenlights, I think.

Could code be written to allow specifying IP addresses _from_which_ a given password can be changed, or possible to extend blocking to password changes?

It's just an annoyance, I can also just filter these messages if it continues of course.

Ignore such messages if you didn't request them. The whole point of being able to request a password change is to make sure the owner can do it no matter what machine they're on. Blocking certain IPs from doing so wouldn't be effective. If you don't use the password, the requester can't use it either. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:06, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New article

how do i start a brand new article?

Take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article. --Hetar 17:10, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia's Many Hyperlinks

Wikipedia hyperlinks almost every word. In an article on history, for example, dates are linked twice - once for month/day and once for year. Very handy! But a bit obtrusive at times. I merge related Wikipedia pages into a single document, and remove the links one at a time. Is there a way to delete all in one swell foop? --24.15.80.169 17:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where such deletion is appropriate (and in most cases it would seem to me to be inappropriate), you can go into edit mode, copy the entire document, paste into a word processing program, do a search and replace function separately of "[" and of "]", placing nothing in the replace field. This will remove all the brackets, and thus remove all internal wiki links.--Fuhghettaboutit 18:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Linking the month and day and the year separately allows for the user preferences on how to display dates to kick in. Only remove such links if they're not right behind each other. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:08, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can a warning be a WP:NPA violation?

Let's pretend there is a Wikipedia contributor with a habitual problem of breaking a certain Wikipedia policy or guideline. I inform him that the next time he engages in his suspect behaviour I will file a Request for Comments on the matter to get the opinions of more editors. I would tell him in the politest possible way, of course. Would it be good form to tell him this is the absolutely last warning and give him a last chance to mend the error of his ways? Or is "one more time and we'll go to RfC" considered incivil or threatening a fellow editor? Weregerbil 18:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would go with the warnings and use RfC as a last resort, however I don't see that is being uncivil in any way. --Pilo t|guy ^{(roger that)} 18:45, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can see how "one more time and I'll go to RFC can be threatening, but it's not uncivil. You'd have to be calling the editor in question a jerk, ass, stupid nitwit or vandal to qualify said warning as a personal attack. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:10, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing a redirect

The article Buu no longer insta-directs to Majin Buu, even after the proper fixtures for a redirect have been placed. Instead, the page is blank, leaving two articles. Is this a glitch or something else? Voice of Treason 19:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect works for me now. Are you sure no one edited it after the redirect stuff was put in place? - Mgm|^(talk) 20:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I may just need to clear my cache, other users couldn't see it either. Voice of Treason 21:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That was it. Sorry about that. Voice of Treason 21:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do change the name of an article to an existing redirect?

Right now, there is a discussion to change the name of the "Lindy Hop" article to "Lindy hop" to reflect the fact that the topic is not a proper noun and is not normally capitalized. However, the "Lindy hop" article already exists as a redirect to "Lindy Hop". This means that we cannot change the name of the article simply by using the "Move" command. The only other thing I can think of is to manually copy and paste the material from "Lindy Hop" to "Lindy hop", but I would have to do this to both the article and its talk page, and it would overwrite the existing material on the existing "Lindy hop" talk page. Is there another accepted method to handle this? --Cswrye 20:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have done the move (since as an admin I can delete pages). What you needed to do was get an admin to do the move. Never do a cut and paste move, I am thankful you asked here :-).--Commander Keane 20:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For the full answer (as in where do you find an admin to do that), see: WP:RM /wangi 21:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dealing with a problem user

I just had a message left on my talk page accusing me of adding inappropriate images to an article. As I'd never edited the article I checked and found it was left by an IP which I'd left a BV template on for blanking and vandalising another article. Obviously I reverted his addition to my talk page, but should he continue to be harrassing where can I take it to be dealt with? --Crossmr 20:47, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can report a vandal at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. However, you should warn the vandal first with a series of appropriate messages. Some templates for this are at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. Before posting there, a final warning should have been given (such as {{test3}}, {{test4}} or {{blatantvandal}}) and the vandal must have vandalized within the last few hours, including after the final warning--Fuhghettaboutit 22:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, this was left after I left {{blatantvandal}} on the talk page of the IP for vandalising an article. I've left him another, if he continues I'll post there. Thank you. --Crossmr 23:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

photos

Hello,

I was reading the article about the u.s.s wisconsin and instead of a photo showing the ship. It Is a picture of a naked person who's upside down and something is coming out of their anus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.229.111.127 (talk • contribs) 07:44, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Someone's reverted the vandalism. It was picked up in just one minute and I guess you must have been unfortunate enough to view the page befroe the revert. Vandalism is a big problem and we have ways of dealing with it. See Wikipedia:Vandalism for more info.

I WANT TO KNOW HOW TO BECOME A WIKIPEDIAN

HI,

MY NAME IS RABAB.I'VE USED WIKIPEDIA FOR MOST OF MY PROJECTS AND ASSIGNMENTS AND WITH THE HELP ITS GIVEN ME I THINK ITS A WONDERFUL SITE.I KNOW THIS IS QUITE STUPID BUT I WAS HOPING IF I COULD BE GIVEN THE INFORMATION OF HOW TO BECOME A WIKIPEDIAN BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND A WAY ON THE WEBSITE THAT WOULD HELP ME IN THIS MATTER. THANK YOU AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.42.2.21 (talk • contribs) .

Hi Rabab. All you need to do to become a registered user is to go to Special:Userlogin and create an account. There are benefits to creating an account. Anyone can edit almost every page, whether registered or not, simply by clicking on the edit this page tab at the top of all articles—there are no prerequisites to "becoming a Wikipedian"; just jump in and contribute; be bold. Before you start editing though, I would suggest you peruse the Wikipedia:tutorial. This will help you avoid many newcomer mistakes, such as typing in all caps. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

changes are being rolled back

My changes are not being saved any more. They get rolled back. Why is that? Thanks—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bdhooper (talk • contribs) .

You should ask Jon Awbrey at his talk page. At around the time you were editing, an IP was editing as well. Your edits might've caught up in his reversion of the IP's edits. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 10

Who created the Disestablishments by Year category?

Why created Category:Disestablishments by Year thingy?? Who created it?

Shkarter1985

change ip

i want to change my ip address. or you can say hide my ip address is their any way to do it.

Sure, once you create an account your ip adress will be hidden. More info at Wikipedia:Why create an account? --Hetar 04:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC

Your IP is assigned by your internet service provider. If you dial up, you'll probably get a different one each login. If you're DSL/Cable, you probably have either a perminant one, or at least it doesn't change more than once a week or so. If you don't want it showing up on wikipedia, you can register an account - it's free, gives you lots more abilities, and will only show your username instead of an ip. (sorry for dupe answer, edit conflict) -Goldom (t) (Review) 04:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

B.Ed results

We want to see B.Ed results. Exam was given through paniv centre under SNDT womens university mumbai. centre code is 125 centre name is PANIV. How to see the results.

what is big bang theory

Contacting numbers of users

Is there any easy way of contacting (OK, spamming...) a number of specific users in one go? I'd like to post messages to memebers of a project, but find that there isn't a single talk page that all regularly use. Cheers. 4u1e 07:16, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which project? All WikiProjects have an associated talk page that members should be looking at. WikiProjects are, by and large, the main medium for addressing large numbers of related users about a particular subject. You are welcome to leave follow-up queries on my talk page. — Estarriol ^talk 10:56, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they should be looking at the project page, but people can forget such things. If stuff is posted on a talk page, you get informed no matter what page you look at. No watch list required. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:29, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or you could always copy and paste, but it you have the AutoWikiBrowser, you can add the users' talk pages you want to add the text to, then add the actualy text in the second tab of the program and then click go. It will the load up all of the users' talk pages and add in all of the text. Hope this helps. Kilo-Lima|^(talk) 11:49, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Map Legends

In the deep dark recesses of my memory, I remember seeing a map on a Wiki article with an external legend (that was part of the frame, i.e. not part of the picture) - probably set up as a template. I can't for the life of me find the article or figure out how to do this. Does it ring a bell to anyone? If so, would you be able to contact me on my talk page? Thanks! -- PageantUpdater 07:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean such as in Richard Francis Burton#Exploring the lakes of central Africa (1856 – 1860)? That's a simple caption to an image, you can look at the source of that section for how to do it. — Estarriol ^talk 10:58, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately not, the map I remember had a caption with coloured squares and text beside them (to explain coloured sections on the map). Thanks for trying though :) -- PageantUpdater 11:09, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I think you mean a map key. Sorry, can't help there. — Estarriol ^talk 12:11, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

recognition of BE(Mech) pass out 1990 from S S Govt Engineering college,Bhavnagar,Gujarat

I would like to know whether 1990 pass out BE(Mech) from S S Govt Engineering College,Bhavnagar,Gujarat is eligible for AMIE membership and Chartered Engineership.

Thanks S K Joshi email address removed 09879597906

I have moved this question to the Humanities Reference Desk as they are better geared up for answering this type of question. Road Wizard 12:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Firefox extension for CSD

I've read about someone who used Firefox's tabbed browsing capability to open a bunch of CSD tagged articles at once, then go through each of them to delete them with a speed that an unsuspecting user thought they were using a bot. Is there an extension that allows you to open a bunch of selected links in new tabs? I can only open one link at a time. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have a mouse gestures extension that lets me open links in new tabs in the background by dragging the link down with my right mouse button. In this way I can open many links very quickly. —Bkell (talk) 13:19, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure about an extension, but you can bookmark a series of pages in a folder then return later and choose "Open in tabs" from the menu. This will open all of the links in the folder simultaneously as a set of tabs. Road Wizard 14:28, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was kind of hoping to do the selecting of said links all at once too. - Mgm|^(talk) 14:37, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- There is the Copy All Urls Add-on, though I have never used it myself. One drawback I can see from the description is that you will need the links to be in the correct format beforehand. Road Wizard 15:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Firefox extension I have is simply called "Mouse Gestures", though there are several others that do similar things. I have a rather old version (1.0), and it has some bugs, but maybe they're fixed now. The idea of mouse gestures is that you can hold down the right mouse button and "draw" pictures to do different things. For example, I have mine configured so that holding down the right mouse button, dragging the mouse to the left, and releasing the button is the same as clicking the Back button. Dragging to the right is the same as Forward, dragging down is either "new tab" or "open this link in a new tab" (depending on whether the mouse pointer moves over a link or not), and dragging up is "close tab". You can enable more complex actions too; I have "up then left" configured to mean "go to the parent directory", and "down then up" means "duplicate this tab". Other mouse gestures include "rocking", where you depress the right mouse button, depress the left mouse button, release the right mouse button, and release the left mouse button. These can be configured to do things, but I don't have any actions associated with them. I tend to keep things simple and only have six or eight actions associated with mouse gestures.

Alternately, you can download Opera, which has mouse gestures built in. In my experience the Opera mouse gestures work a lot better than the Firefox ones do (you can do mouse gestures anywhere in the window, for example, not only in the browser pane), although as I said I use a rather old version of the Firefox extension, and it's probably been improved.

You can't select a rectangular region of the screen and open all links in that area with Mouse Gestures, nor is there some kind of "open all links on this page" option. If that's what you're looking for, I can't help you there. But common actions like Back and Forward, and opening links in new background tabs, are much quicker and easier with mouse gestures. —Bkell (talk) 19:12, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If I draw the line through the links I want to open, then move right-up-left it will open said links in new tabs. Not the figure I was looking for, but it'll do the job nicely. Thanks! - Mgm|^(talk) 20:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

info about software engineering

my name rahul monde.Can get some info about software engineering,if you can then contact me.

Removed email address, user has a Wikipedia account: User:Monde rahul. EvocativeIntrigue 14:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on user's talk page [User talk:Monde rahul|here]] (found user in page history). EvocativeIntrigue 14:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

contribute article

How do I submit a topic/article?

See Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia#Create new articles Computerjoe 's talk 15:18, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editing those universe tables

How do you edit those things at the bottom of pages that list related articles and what are they called? I tried to look this up in the help section, but I didn't get anywhere since I didn't know what they were called. Here's an example. I'm trying to edit that table at the bottom to include this game. How would I do so? Ace of Sevens 15:30, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are talking about [7]. If you want to edit it, just click "edit this page". In the future, if you want to edit something similar to that, just click "edit this page" at the top of the article, scroll down and look for something like {{xenaverse}} (it should be enclosed in {{}})), then, type it into your address bar, so it looks like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:xenaverse

--Pilo t|guy ^{(roger that)} 15:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They're called templates, see Help:Template. When you edit a page that includes any templates, in the page source they look as described above (in double curly braces). On the edit page, below the source for the page, there's a list of links to templates included on the page. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathon Coudrille

Help please; i was advised by Charles thompson to edit a page on the artist Jonathon Coudrille, And in attempting to uploud the copyright logo used to sign the paintings i seem to have violated my own copyright. I do not have broadband; I am an old man. evidently also an idiot. I may die before i succeed with this task. please help, in simple old-fashioned language. Jay Hazelwood. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jay Hazelwood (talk • contribs) .

I went ahead and fixed the problem for you. You had just confused the copyright tags that were used. Instead of {{copyright}} you should have used {{logo}}. --Hetar 17:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

June 11

Searching WP

Is there a way to manually reach the "search with google/yahoo" screen that comes up when a normal search fails for technical problems? I find it almost always works better, but see no way to choose to get there. -Goldom (t) (Review) 01:21, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need function or name of a specific CIA building in Langley

To the rear (west)of the New Headquarters Building and northeast of the parking garage of the Central Intelligence Agency is a long and low building (windowless I think) which can be seen on Google Earth satellite photos. Is this a warehouse or is it possibly the printing plant? I am a CIA enthusiast and collector of facility photos.

All I want to know is either the formal name of the building or its function. Thanks very much. 142.46.3.10 02:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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