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Riham Barghouti

I am trying to edit this page to get it concise with Wikipedia guidelines. I know I am far off from getting there but I am trying. As for the section of Riham Barghouti, I think it is appropriate to list details about her since she is a founder and I was in the process of properly referencing this.DaltonCastle (talk) 22:18, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am working on properly referencing the section now. If the information is incorrect please feel free to reword it appropriately, I am more than willing to collaborate with you.DaltonCastle (talk) 22:21, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is not acceptable. You cannot add unsourced text implying that a living person is lying; you cannot make unsourced, and contentioys, assertions about the biography and activities of a living person; and you most certainly cannot add defamatory claims sourced to NGO Monitor RolandR (talk) 22:36, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, that's a fair point. I did not add any unsourced text, and if there was it was accidental. There were no claims that anyone was lying, simply that they were incorrect in an assumption. And I was not aware NGO Monitor was not an NPOV source...I'll keep that in mind from here on out. I'm still open to discussion.DaltonCastle (talk) 23:29, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Your edits claimed, with no apparent source, that Riham Barghouti was falsely claiming to be a Palestinian. They relied on an obvious error (now corrected) on the Jerusalem Fund website to imply that she was falsely claiming to be a professor of sociology. They made numerous unsourced assertions about her life and activities. The only evidence offered was her own writingss, which did not confirm the assertions but merely established that she made various statements. And you relied on the notorious NGO Monitor to back some of the defamatory claims. I suggest that you look at these threads in discussion pages about NGO Monitor, and its record of hounding and defaming its ideological opponents: Gerald Steinberg, NGO Monitor, User Soosim and others; Soosim;NGO Monitor as a source for Marc Garlasco; Reliability of Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem.
Nor did you offer any evidence, except for NGO Monitor's assertions, that Barghouti has any official or leading role in the organisation, and is worth any more than a brief mention here. The bottom line is that your edits, coloured by the hostility of NGO Monitor, presented a tendentious, and in places defamatory, picture of Riham Barghouti and her role in Adalah-NY. As such, they are impermissible in Wikipedia. RolandR (talk) 00:05, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]