Talk:Johann Lamont

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Pronunciation and origin of unusual Christian name

Do we know why she has such a curious forename - and is the h pronounced or silent? 86.164.25.249 (talk) 08:11, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding is that it is a reasonably common Gaelic language version of Joanna, but I only read that on a blog or somesuch (newspaper comment thread?), so not a WP:RS. Mais oui! (talk) 09:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[Wikipedia page] Perhaps her parents thought she was a male Afrikaaner.14.114.205.215 (talk) 02:11, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is pronounced the same as "Joanne", I don't know if it's a Gaelic version. PatGallacher (talk) 02:15, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I notice someone's added the pronunciation of her first name to the article, but think we also need to include her surname, as it's pronounced LA-mont as apposed to La-Mont. David Dimbleby made this error on last night's Question Time and she was quick to correct him. Paul MacDermott (talk) 12:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ok, I had a go at adding IPA for pronunciation and think I've got it right. You may want to double check it though. The second syllable of Lamont is the same as the last in government, rather than in Vermont, if you catch my drift. Hope that helps and doesn't cause further confusion. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:52, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate temple

Template:BLP sources is only applied where we have serious, contentious, ongoing disputes regarding bios of living people - no such dispute features either at Talk or in Edit summaries for this article. Further, the information regarding her being born in Anderston, and the primary school she attended, were on her own johann4leader website, which is now offline (johann4leader.org/bio/). However, this info is hardly "contentious"! Is anyone seriously contending that she wasn't born in Anderston, or did not attend that school? No. Thought not. --Mais oui! (talk) 11:05, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If that was where the info was from in should have been cited there when inserted and any such cites could easily be got through web archive or similar. What is the source for the unsuccessful rector campaign?RafikiSykes (talk) 11:21, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not necessary to cite every single item in an article. If it were a criterion, our articles would become an unreadable mess. For example, take a look at some of the content in Category:Featured articles. You will note that these articles, which have been written and edited by some of our most experienced and skilled editors, and must strictly follow policy and guidelines, do not routinely reference uncontentious, elementary points of fact. Often quite large passages are uncited, cos no editor or reader in their right mind would ever contest every last dotted i.

As far as the Rectorship bit, you will have to ask Pat Gallagher. I am a wee bit suspicious that he only knows this because he knew her personally while at university. In which case it is WP:OR and ought to be removed.

On a broader point, I urge you to reconsider the way you slap often 2 or 3 huge templates across the top of articles (often stub articles, which by their very nature have already been identified as needing work) in complete disproportion to any supposed "problem" at the article. I know from experience that this "template cruft" annoys the hell out of a lot of editors. You are not actually helping matters by continuing on your templating campaign. --Mais oui! (talk) 14:02, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Religion field removed (again)

On 21 December 2011 I removed the "Religion" field from the Infobox with the Edit summary: "rm | religion = Roman Catholic per WP:BLP - I have tried, and failed, to find a WP:RS for this; if one can be found, please re-add". A day later a single-edit ip address re-added it (unnoticed by me or seemingly anyone else, at the time). Now duly removed again, and it will stay removed until and unless somebody proves it a) to be true, and b) to be notable, per official policy WP:VERIFY. --Mais oui! (talk) 05:37, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First major interview

I've found an article from The Daily Record which is apparently her first major interview after taking office. It has some interesting stuff in it that we could use, but but this version from thefreelibrary, and its corresponding HighBeam entry has some of the text missing, so I don't know whether we can use those versions as a reference. Does anyone have the original article from the Record? Paul MacDermott (talk) 20:12, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Expanding

I would be quite interested in expanding this if anyone can help. Ideally we should aim to get all articles about major political figures up to at least GA standard, and as leader of the the largest opposition party at Holyrood she is a potential future First Minister of Scotland. Considering her position this article is fairly short, and needs to be more informative. Currently there is a lot online about her recent political career, but very little concerning her early days as an MSP and her career pre-dating her entry into politics. If anyone can help there give me a shout. Meanwhile, I'll start sifting through the sources and put something together. I'll use Ed Miliband as a template. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:45, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Another good article setting out her views. Paul MacDermott (talk) 21:48, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article listing other Committees on which Lamont has served.
SNP misleading Scots on independence poll, says Johann Lamont], Irish Times, 22 September 2013
New leader beat Sheridan challenge, Airdrie and Coatbridge Advertiser, 13 September 2008, part of her campaign was to advocate greater involvement for party members in the decision making process.

Labour leadership

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Views on same-sex marriage
Tells activists to stop saying sorry
Conference speech
Scottish independence referendum
Scottish council elections
Call for debate on tax powers
Questions about universal benefits
Powers group
Tuition fees
Falkirk by-election