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Merge of Healthy diet

I do not think a merge is the best idea. The healthy diet page should discuss healthy diets in general ( like the DASH diet, Mediterranean diet ) rather than diet elements such as zinc.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:05, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Human diet (non-existent) should talk about diets and healthy diet should merge/move to it and human nutrition should talk about nutrient requirements.username 1 (talk) 21:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Closed as no merge. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:54, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Vincent2128 (talk) 12:26, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Humans Are Biological Frugivores

(Copyright violation removed. Ucucha 13:40, 15 March 2010 (UTC)) http://www.publicaciones.cucsh.udg.mx/pperiod/esthom/esthompdf/esthom19/21-31.pdf[reply]

(Copyright violation removed. Ucucha 13:40, 15 March 2010 (UTC)) http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1667679[reply]

Pearl999 (talk) 16:34, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See discussion at Talk:Human#Humans_Are_Biological_Frugivores. - SummerPhD (talk) 03:08, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now archived at Talk:Human/Archive_31#Humans_Are_Biological_Frugivores. - SummerPhD (talk) 13:13, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge

We don't need two articles on the same topic.Marcus Qwertyus 23:45, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Too long to merge IMO. Human nutrition is also a bit different. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:55, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If this article is too long for your tastes a split can be arraigned. Marcus Qwertyus 00:05, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As I stated previously health diets discusses full diets while human nutrition discusses individual dietary components. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Obtaining nutrition

I've removed the (unsourced) "Obtaining nutrition" section because it almost solely consisted of factual errors, namely:

The switch from foraging to agriculture causes population growth, not vice versa
The declining frequency of foraging in recent millennia isn't a response to environmental change
There was no "worldwide switch" to agriculture 10,000 years ago; the process started 10,000 years ago and is ongoing
Agriculture is more "efficient" than foraging in the sense that it (usually) supports higher population densities and the energy it produces is closer to a given environment's net primary productivity, but until recent centuries was inefficient with regard to individual labour costs, and since then has been inefficient in the long-term because of unsustainability. It's therefore misleading to call agriculture "efficient" and foraging "inefficient" without further explanation.

Most of those errors were introduced recently, but the section as it stood before then was also pretty dire. I would have made a stab at rewriting it more accurately, but I'm not sure a history of subsistence techniques is really relevant to this article (and in any case, it would be nice to have it at subsistence techniques first). jroe ^tk_cb 19:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, forget that last part, I just noticed there's a good write up of it buried at the end of the article. jroe ^tk_cb 19:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vegans redirect under the "Protein" section

I just wanted to say that the link "vegans" in the protein section redirects you to a list of vegans. I believe that it would be more useful if the link would direct you to the "Veganism" page. I have no idea how to change this so, someone please take a look at this. Dennimen (talk) 19:34, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This has since been fixed. -- Beland (talk) 18:34, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

French paradox

I removed this claim:

More active lifestyles involving plenty of daily exercise, especially walking; the French are much less dependent on cars than Americans.

It's unreferenced, and I doubt it is true. Looking at [1] for example, EU-wide stats from 1997 were within 7% of the U.S. for auto mode share. Nothing about exercise is mentioned in French paradox. -- Beland (talk) 18:30, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Page Edit

I plan on providing an extensive edit, mostly comprised of adding content rather than deleting content. This contribution will be part of a class assignment. This contribution will provide the social aspect of understanding malnutrition amongst human populations, especially children, across the globe from both a cause and effect perspective. This will entail providing not only operational definitions of malnutrition and under-nutrition, but also providing the context that produces poor nutrition, including environmental factors and social determinants. My article will also discuss nutrition programs in the United States and programming aimed at rectifying disparities in access to nutritious meals and other social determinants that cause inequalities. This contribution aims to rigorously analyze all the different perspectives of malnutrition and inaccessibility of foods by including sections pertaining to: nutrition education, obesity, poverty and food insecurity, minority populations, rural populations, special needs populations, and the lifetime benefits of these provisions. Within these subjects, I will discuss current and developing programming and policy and the need for social support. I hope my contribution will improve the article by providing a different context for information about human nutrition and malnutrition. Gaining better understanding of the social factors that contribute to malnutrition in humans and the effectiveness and availability of programs that address these needs can serve to develop a broader perspective of nutrition specific to humans. Please provide any feedback you would like or ask any questions about my more specific approach to editing and restructuring the article. I am interested in helping this article reach better class status, as well as help differentiate it from the Nutrition article. Lbockhorn (talk) 03:15, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

questions about revisions

I do not understand why you removed the information on minorities. I plan on expanding that section profoundly, but have only inserted a bit of information at this time due to other time commitments. However, do you see something inappropriate about that information? Also, child wasting is a technical term that signifies the degradation of bodily tissues due to severe malnourishment that is an indicator similar to stunting. May I please revert those edits? I will link the term you believe people do not recognize the term. Lbockhorn (talk) 07:09, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please follow the guidelines for WP:LEAD and WP:MOS. In my opinion, you are extracting (or plagiarizing) a lot of information from the UNICEF report, much of which is more about sociopolitical factors than it is about the Article's topic: human nutrition. Let's stay on topic. --Zefr (talk) 02:38, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Reviewer

One possible thing to consider revising is the way the article separates “industrialized countries” and all the other regions. I also don’t think that the section on the U.S. should be above the section on industrialized countries, and various regions (and the section on the U.S. could use some expansion). In the last section, “Recommended Policy,” more viewpoints should be added. This section talks about a policy recommended by the World Health Organization, but no other potential policies. Additionally, I think there are some areas where you could still add in-text references. For example, you might consider adding an in-text reference to the statement “In 2008, 35% of adults above the age of 20 years old were overweight (BMI 25 kg/m), a prevalence that has doubled worldwide between 1980 and 2008.” It would be good to know where this statistic is coming from. Lastly, work on fixing formatting (missing periods, etc.) in the “Intro” section. Great job so far, and very comprehensive work! Kimmyfromtexas (talk) 05:21, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review of LBockhorn

The first thing that jumped out at me in your contribution was the random phrase "that provide many challenges to individuals and societies" in what you added to the introduction. Fix this ASAP! Read your contribution out loud- some phrases you used do not really make sense. "Nourished women are less likely to experience risks to birth" sounds awkward and needs to be revised to "Well-nourished women are less likely to experience risks during childbirth". Be sure to link organizations and concepts such as the WHO to other wikipedia articles. Avoid using an acronym without first spelling out what the acronym stands for! The casual reader may not know what the WHO is, and you leave him or her no easy means to find out. Consider conceptualizing what "developing well" and "good development" mean. Is it height and weight goals? Is it normal bone fusion? Your section on "Child and maternal nutrition" needs to be split up into smaller paragraphs. Right now you have a lot of text with no spatial divisions, and this can be overwhelming for readers. Overall, you have added important new dimensions to this article, and have sourced your claims with scholarly articles. I did notice that you rely on your 1st and 2nd sources, so consider finding more sources to further back up the information. Great job, and good luck on further additions to this article!

Samanthaplove (talk) 05:52, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deciding new structure

The organizational structure of malnutrition needs some more work I believe. Does the following structure provide a better combination of the previous article and the new social information that needs to be incorporated?

Individual nutrition challenges 4.2.3.1 Illnesses caused by improper nutrient consumption 4.2.3.3 Mental agility 4.2.3.4 Mental disorders 4.2.3.5 Cancer 4.2.3.6 Metabolic syndrome and obesity 4.2.3.7 Hyponatremia

Global nutrition challenges 2.1 Malnutrition and causes of death and disability 2.2 Child malnutrition 2.3 Adult overweight and obesity 2.4 Vitamin and mineral malnutrition 2.4.1 Iron deficiency and anaemia 2.4.2 Vitamin A deficiency 2.4.3 Iodine deficiency 2.5 Infant and young child feeding 2.6 Undernourishment

Are there any comments on this structure? Lbockhorn (talk) 15:17, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]