User talk:Jengod/Archive 7
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Not trying to make this sound accusatory, but rather as a genuine request: In the future, when you move a blurb from an article onto a new article, please make sure it does not make reference to "the above paragraph" or "earlier in this article", etc. Thanks. DryGrain 18:19, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Medical Vis.
Ty for the edit! :) --inks 21:15, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Renaissance Philosophy
Thanks for the fix. Stirling Newberry 21:00, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Compress the Hollywood Boulevard photo?
Have you got Photoshop? If you don't I could compress that photo into a JPEG which is a fraction of the current 800k. Mackerm 21:25, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Jeopardy ToC
hi. i read your comment on the talk:jeopardy! page that the tournament of champions has been terminated. is this true? it seems strange that they would do that. i was wondering what your source was. thanx. -R. fiend 17:29, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Supercouples
I realize I forgot a lot of supercouples, like Todd and Blair, and Jack and Jennifer from Days of Our Lives. If you can write articles about their histories, by all means, add them to the article. I only wrote fair to good articles on Cliff and Nina, Luke and Laura, and Greg and Jenny. I don't know if Nico and Cecily were a supercouple, though. They didn't fall in love in the conventional way, and I don't think Maurice Benard was on All My Children that long. In any case, tell me what you think. Mike H 22:52, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC)
- Speaking of, I got RickK to help me finish Cliff and Nina. What do you think? Mike H 00:16, Jul 21, 2004 (UTC)
did you know
you consistantly put up extremely interesting did you know entries. props. Thepedestrian 19:05, Jul 21, 2004 (UTC)
Question
Hi, you sent me a welcome message earlier today [1] after editing heriot .. I have since created an account name. Thank you for the welcome. Do you know how I can attribute the article I wrote as user 69.138.197.185 to be attributed to Stbalbach? Sorry I dont know who else to ask if this is a Sysop function or somthing I can do.
A Did you know candidate
I see that you are one of the main editors on the did you know template; I have an article that I feel would be interesting to list but am not sure of what order they go in/come out or anything like that. The article is Chidiock Tichborne, was created this evening, and is about one of my most favourite poets (even though he only ever wrote one poem). I suppose the formatting could be
...that [[Chidiock Tichborne]] wrote his only known [[poem]] while awaiting [[execution (legal)|execution]] for [[treason]]?
I think it's rather interesting anyway... -- Graham ☺ | Talk 20:47, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Links in article titles
You say, "Stop putting links in article titles." What do you think about using links in titles on certain pages, as List of Star Trek: Enterprise episodes? Also, nice job on the biographies!
Acegikmo1 21:29, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Treasury Secretaries (kudos)
Nice job adding those stubs. There's lots of other American politicians who need stubs, if you have the inclination - see Category:U.S. Supreme Court justices or Category:Speakers of the U.S. House of Representatives, where there's a sizeable number without articles, for instance. Of course, if you don't want to, don't feel any pressure about it - I always get sick of adding in stubs like that. john k 23:21, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Snow for the fishies
Thanks so much! I thought it would be worth writing up, as it's a rather interesting subject once the unnecessarily stilted and jargon-ridden source texts have been transliterated. I originally planned to write just an illuminating stub to compliment Vampire Squid (which I also got carried away with, sort of), but I'm happy with the results, and happy you've enjoyed it. :) By the way, I love the mad happy faces, and your soapbox points are spot on! Cheers, -- Hadal 02:46, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
To n-dash or not
Hi Jengod,
I would like to agree with your stance on n-dashes in biographies. My Oxford Dictionary for Writers and Editors agrees that this is the accepted punctuation for joining dates, or indicating tension/movement (although it only gives an example of dates in full years, e.g. 1914–18 war).
However, I would suggest that this rule is out of date and not necessarily appropriate for Wikipedia. The problem is that it is a rule created for printers, who have much better resolution to play with than we currently have on computer screens. If you look at the example on your user page, there is virtually no white space between the 9 and the – and the – and the 5 (it is probably font and browser dependent, but for me the &ndash actually merges with the 5). Typographically, this is very, very, very bad. It damages the readability of the text, plus it is un-necessarily difficult for editors.
I would suggest, that it would be better to encourage formatting like:
15 August 1769 – 5 May 1821
with spaces around the ordinary dash. Then encourage Wiki developers to spot this common style and render it with the appropriate dash depending on the output medium (much as dates can be reordered using Wiki-magic).
Just a thought. I guess there is a better forum where this sort of idea ought to be discussed. -- Solipsist 19:37, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Summaries
Hi Jen! I thought you might be interested in this project: m:Wikisummaries. I think I will begin somewhere on en:, perhaps in my user space. +sj+ 23:54, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Template:1911
I think that you were the one the edit-protected Template:1911, because you were the last one to make an edit to it. Can you please explain why it's protected? I would like to create the new category Category:1911, but I need to be able to edit the page in order to do so. [[User:Mike Storm|Mike∞Storm]] 01:59, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
List of Michigan county name etymologies
Hi, I noticed you're editing User:Jengod/List of Michigan county name etymologies in RC. I had started tracking down some of these (but I'm easily distracted). Some of them are pretty gnarly to put into a one-liner--that Henry Schoolcraft made up a whole bunch of the names using latin and native american elements. Like Arenac County, for example: The name was manufactured by Henry Schoolcraft from Latin arena, meaning "sand" and the syllable sounded as auk or akke, meaning "place" according to Schoolcraft's studies of Native American languages. Thus Arenac means "sandy place". Or how about Alpena County: Alpena County was originally named Anamickee, after a Chippewa chief who signed the Treaty of 1826 negotiated by Henry Schoolcraft. The word means "thunder", which was appropriate since the county orignially included the shore of Thunder Bay. Schoolcraft dismissed the Native American legend about how the bay was prone to thunder storms. He manufactured the name Alpena, using the Arabic al, meaning "the", and either of the Native American words pinai, meaning "partridge", or penaissee, meaning "bird". Schoolcraft later wrote that he used the latter word, with Alpena therefore meaning "bird country", although some believe the former word to be more likely, with Alpena thereby meaning "the partridge" or "partridge country". Most of the stuff I'm finding I think would go into the county article, but I was also thinking of maybe making a single table with lots of types of info. I started with User:Bkonrad/Sandbox, but the format right now is messy, and I couldn't see how to get etymology into it too without making even more of a mess. (And I know the List of Michigan counties already has some of this info, but I thought a table might work better than a list.) older≠wiser 18:44, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Oh, I have no objection to having a List of Michigan county name etymologies. I don't think I could cram the etymologies into what I'm doing in my sandbox anyhow. If (when) I ever get back to that, it will just be a spiffed up replacement for the current List of Michigan counties. For the Schoolcraft etymologies, I think you're on the right track to gloss over the details in the list. older≠wiser 19:27, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Did You Know...?
Hello. I saw your comment on the Did You Know...? discussion page saying that people can go ahead and pick the articles they want to go on that section on the Main Page. Did you mean only admins? As I can't edit the main page. It's just that I have a doozy of a DYK. [clears throat]:
- Did you know that the British Royal Family announced the death of The Queen Mother's nieces - Katherine Bowes-Lyon and Nerissa Bowes-Lyon - when they were, in fact, in psychiatric care?
Admit it, it's stunning. I just stumbled on this info today and I'm writing it all up. --[[User:Bodnotbod|bodnotbod » .....TALKQuietly)]] 19:14, Aug 9, 2004 (UTC)
United States Template
Can you please tell me which browser (and what edition of that browser) you are using? I've checked it in versions of IE, Netscape and Mozilla and nothing I did ought to have affected the size of the font. The only thing I did is have the size-decreasal affect the whole inner table at once rather than each row separately.
But I'll change that part of it back, if you are still having problems. Let me know. Aris Katsaris 20:39, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Let me know if it looks okay now. And btw, what edition of IE does it say when you click on Help/About Internet Explorer? I have edition 6.0 Aris Katsaris 21:03, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Metric units
I appreciate your comments very much. Thank you.
Bobblewik 08:15, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
listdev template on VfD
Thought you might be interested in commenting on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Template:Listdev. older≠wiser 20:43, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
en dashes in spaced expressions
You write:
- En dashes should be used to indicate the span of time between a beginning point and an endpoint. On Wikipedia this comes up a lot in biographies, so stop doing hyphens, m-dashes, space-ndash-spaces and whatever else you punctuationally kooky types like to do, and just succumb to my will, okay? Thanks. :)
- Example: Napoléon Bonaparte (15 August 1769–5 May 1821) blah blah blah tried to take over the world...
I beg, in all respect, to disagree. Your example is less than optimal. While spaces in expressions as
- Monday–Friday
- 1948–1991
are extremely ugly, in your example it might be argued that the very lack of spaces makes it actually harder to read, as the connection between the year of 1769 and the figure "5" appear as closer than the connection within the respective dates.
Although I have no universally applicable solution to this eternal problem of typography, I would advice against using it as an example as it makes your cause less understandable — and less agreeable.
Personally, I'm less fond of the dashes in expressions with full dates, where I often prefer constructs such as 15 August 1769 to 5 May 1821, but I can see the logic of arguments for "spaced en-dashes" in such cases.
/Magnus Hansen, Malmö
Rio Grande postage stamp
I like the Rio Grande postage stamp, but I am pretty sure images of all U.S. stamps since 1978 are not in the public domain. In fact, you can see the Copyright notice at the bottom of the image if you look closely. USPS is a government chartered corporation rather than an actual U.S. government agency. --H2O 19:56, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Jen, here is the USPS non-commercial use policy. [2] It looks like it is no problem (if you get permission). --H2O 00:29, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Politicians project
I want to thank you for inviting me to participate in the politicians project. However, given the recent turn of events, I'm beginning to have doubts about how much of my time here is well spent. Several of my pages on election results for local Ohio offices have been nominated for deletion as "non-notable." However, when I noted the level of detail about characters listed in Tolkein appendices, I'm being told that encyclopedic means comprehensive. Apparently, there aren't enough people interested in Ohio politics to save my pages, but there are enough Tolkein fans around to keep reams of detail copied out of the back of novels. I'm a little dispirited. Acsenray 16:31, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Please don't create substubs
Just a polite reminder not to create substubs. It's much better for Wikipedia if you create normal stubs instead. While substubs shouldn't be deleted once they are created (unless they are patent nonsense or vandalism), they shouldn't be created in the first place. [[User:Mike Storm|Mike∞Storm]] 22:15, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Anna Amalia Duchess of Saxony-Weimar-Eisenach
Shouldn't this be at Anna Amalia, Duchess of Saxony-Weimar-Eisenach? RickK 19:32, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
I don't know about any naming convention, though the other titles on her page have commas. OK, I'll move it. RickK 19:38, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
The Library
Nice work on Duchess Anna Amalia Library: I thought I'd start an article and found you'd already made one! Some of what you did seems to have been replaced with a machine translation of something entirely different at one point but I think I've resurrected your efforts and patched over the translation. You should have a look at it, though, to see if there's any inadvertant duplication and to enhance the overall copy-editing goodness. - Nunh-huh 01:53, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Oh-my-God. I hope you don't have a patent on craptastic because it's my new favorite word<g>. Especially applicable to machine translations! - Nunh-huh 02:14, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Cimarron Territory
Thanks for you kind words. And for your edits too. As for Cimarron Territory, history is not exactly my strong suit, but maybe it does deserve a few sentences on its own. Mainly because of the old television series, Cimarron Strip, that was loosely based on it. I don't know when I can get around to it though. Maybe a redirect would be good to start with. — CPret 02:48, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Great Lakes
Why do you believe an overwhelming majority of English speakers refer to the North American Great Lakes when they say Great Lakes? - SimonP 03:17, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)
- Jengod, thanks for your words of support. I completely agree with you that in general it is a good thing to try to balance US-centric tendencies, but where there are so many casual references to the Great Lakes, it just seems to make more sense to leave the article where people expect it to be. [[User:Bkonrad|older≠wiser]] 11:33, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- There are tens of millions of English speakers living around the African Great Lakes. Uganda, Kenya, and Malawi are all English speaking countries with some sixty million people. Again provide some evidence, that takes into account the greatly differing access to the Internet, that shows that the African Great Lakes are much less cited in English than the North American ones. It is certainly true that on the Internet, because of financial barriers to entry, the Great Lakes of North America are the most referenced. But as Jimbo has repeatedly mentioned Wikipedia is not an Internet encyclopedia, it is an encyclopedia that happens to be on the Internet. Currently Wikipedia has many thousands of editors from North America and, according to Wikipedia:Wikipedians, twelve from Sub-Saharan Africa, so it is not a great surprise that we have far more links to the North American Great Lakes. But this should not be taken as proof that English speakers in general are similarly biased. - SimonP 15:50, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)
- Tens of millions vs. hundreds of millions. Hmmm. Also, you have not provided any clear evidence that the unqualified term "Great Lakes" is commonly used to refer to what I generally see referred to as the "Great Lakes of Africa" or the "African Great Lakes" -- i.e., the people writing recognize that the term "Great Lakes" needs to be qualified because the unqualified term is most commonly used to refer to the North American lakes. [[User:Bkonrad|older≠wiser]] 16:00, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- The unqualified term Great Lakes frequently refers to the African group. The UN does so [3], so does the BBC [4], as does the WHO [5], even the US government does sometimes [6]. Also what do you mean by tens of millions vs hundreds of millions. There are not hundreds of millions of people living around either Great Lakes. - SimonP 16:27, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)