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Having archived my talkpage (I think I did a previous archive which is somewhere out there or just in my deletion log if anyone wants to locate it...)

These articles I want to be reminded about for possible future action:Illinois Valley Community Hospital (I still think it's notable, perhaps it can at least be merged), Futuristic (rapper) (I think he's notable per substantial coverage in reliable independent sources), Alice Fryer Hall (a borderline case that probably merits at least a merge to the area where she established herself), Parillada (I am not convinced that this should remain simply a redirect, it seems to me to be notable as a distinct for of BBQ or style of BBQ), Swamp Cabbage (film) (notability is marginal but if those involved make additional films it can perhaps be worked into an article on the creator), Sam Branson (if he isn't notable he's very likely to become notable soon) and finally Wendy (webseries), that seems like it would be good to merge somewhere or at least mention in an article about corporate sponsored web films.

Colombian Cuisine

Please do not delete my information. Then I will improve the rest of the information --Theryx7 (talk) 14:50, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Actually, if you look at my edits you will see that I was incorporating what you added while restoring what you deleted. You have still not explained why you have removed so many article links and images. Some of what you've added is poorly written. It's unfortunate that you aren't willing to work more collaboratively with others. Candleabracadabra (talk) 14:54, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Well tell me that food is important in the article and I would add food along with my new information. The above information also had many problems.--Theryx7 (talk) 15:02, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

My suggestion would be to add an underconstruction tag at the top so people know when you are actively working on the article. I think that articles on foods and beverages of Colombian cuisine should all be linked to from that article or that article should link to a list of Colombian cuisine foods article. And article links that were lost in your editing should be added back. In addition to the couple I mentioned on your talk page (including the coffee grower's acis), butifara is another regional specialty that comes to mind. You might also look at the Category:Colombian cuisine to make sure they are included. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. I would be happy to have a look when you are finished working it up. If you do changes section by section and explain your reasoning for changes that can also be helpful. I'm not sure why you're grouping all the photos at the bottom? Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:44, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of J. Mandor Matson

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Charlotte

I don't really know much of anything about Charlotte, NC, but I'd be glad to help with general editing or stuff like that. Charleston, SC is my hometown, so I tend to stay pretty focused on my substantive work.ProfReader (talk)

Need diffs!

You still need to provide diffs for the AN thread. I tried to find the "snide comment" to DGG, but I couldn't. Please post them ASAP. StAnselm (talk) 01:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

John Collins House

Please see Category:All articles sourced only to NRIS; while it's reliable for a few specific pieces of information, NRIS really isn't enough by itself for an article, due especially to numerous errors that it contains. Nyttend (talk) 22:35, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

I see your point but I think the bot tagging is misguided. The project can identify and work on articles sourced only to NRIS, but mass tagging doesn't seem helpful or constructive to me. Many other sources use NRIS anyway, so this approach isn't necessarily useful. Obviously articles should always contain the best and most comprehensive sources possible. We do the best we can. While the Park Service makes lots of mistakes, it is useful for the basic information and provides a good starting point. I don't understand why all the actual nominations for National Register of Historic Places aren't available online. The information in those forms is really the meat of the content and sourcing we need. Thanks for the note. Candleabracadabra (talk) 14:33, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

The tagging is basically a specialised form of {{One source}}. Meanwhile, NPS is in the middle of digitising nominations (see File:NRHP nominations upload status.svg for state-by-state details), but they have thousands and thousands left to go; it's not something that they can do overnight. Of course you're right about these forms being the meat of the content, but please note that form citation is 100% different from NRIS-only articles. For one thing, NRIS gives only a few tiny facts from the nominations: when your entire stub is sourced to NRIS, either you're unable to write anything substantial about the site, so it's not really a helpful stub for anyone (but its existence produces tons of mirror pages, which Google finds, thus actually making it harder for someone to research the site), or you add tons of unsourced content. If you cite the nomination form for the site, your page won't end up getting tagged as NRIS-only, since it's citing the nomination form and may be able to have tons of additional information, and at any rate with the nomination you can provide plenty of site-specific informatioon that's not even mentioned in NRIS. Nyttend (talk) 23:08, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for raising that issue at AN. I have left 6 questions for the editor concerned at the end of discussion. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:45, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry that your articles got deleted and I'm happy to see them restored, along with your "user rights". Thank you for your contributions and your assistance to others in improving articles. Take care and have a great day. Candleabracadabra (talk) 14:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

sorry

That was a weird edit conflict. Didn't mean to restore your comment.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 14:02, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Okay, no problem. I thought I had left an edit summary noting that I just wasn't sure, but I'm not seeing it now. Anyway, we'll see what progresses in the discussion. Have a happy every day. Candleabracadabra (talk) 14:10, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Your request at REFUND - Kathleen Peters

I haven't restored the history, because the 2007 version was not about the same person. The whole text was: "She is very rad and nice. She is married to <name>". JohnCD (talk) 15:43, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you for looking into it for me. Happy holidays. Candleabracadabra (talk) 15:49, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

(2nd) Nomination of Kevin Bott for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Kevin Bott is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin Bott (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

As a participant in the 1st nomination discussion, you may wish to participate in the 2nd.--Ddcm8991 (talk) 17:28, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

I will have a look. Thanks. Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:41, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Cite

Amy Bach, Kathryn Sikkink, Gail Buckley, Jonathon Kozol,Jim Wooten‎ and Samuel Hynes. Candleabracadabra (talk) 18:27, 21 November 2013 (UTC)  Done by a kind editor. Candleabracadabra (talk) 23:09, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

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NRHP stubs Comment

Though appreciated, you might want to slow down on creating the NRHP stubs. Especially with them being unsourced, they are likely to be deleted. I stopped creating the Florida NRHP stubs a while ago for that reason. If there are sources other than the National Register, I do try to create them. If you'd like help, I'd be happy to oblige though. Especially since I visited most of the sites and got photos of them. :) Cheers! --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 16:06, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I think there are almost always sources on the NRHP listed buildings, although good sources are sometimes tough to find. I have been happy to have help with those I've created articles on and have tried to include the photos you've taken. It would be great if the NRHP application docs were always available as those are very meaty. Happy Holidays. Candleabracadabra (talk) 10:08, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Eagles Theatre

Doncram is currently banned from NRHP topics.

Eagles Theatre was listed as the Eagles Building (104-106 West Market St.) in the Downtown Wabash Historic District nomination (also known as Wabash Marketplace, the same name as the society preserving it). The district was listed with NRIS reference number 86001678 on July 18, 1986; note the nomination form was written in 1985, probably explaining the date in Indiana Economic Digest which was a republish of an item from the Greater Fort Wayne Business Weekly, date/issue unknown. Thundersnow (talk) 15:48, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Eagles Theatre

Interesting. Thanks. I will clarify that it is listed as part of a Historic District. Happy Holidays. Candleabracadabra (talk) 15:46, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

McColloch-Weatherhogg Double House

I added the infobox (ask me how when you're done with my other recommendations) and did a bit of polishing. Assuming you've got a copy of the nomination form, you should add the author's name on that ref. You should also reword some of the text, or some folks might call it a copyright violation. See if the United Way of Allen County has a website with any info. Is it in a historic district? All told, looks pretty good. thanks. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 01:50, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Indiana NRHP articles

I noticed you've been creating a lot of articles on NRHP-listed buildings in Indiana recently. Most of your new articles don't cite any sources, don't have any categories, and appear to be based entirely on information in the National Register Information System. These articles are leaving other editors (like me) with a lot of cleanup work, and there are a number of problems with articles that only cite the NRIS; the database is error-prone, and short articles don't explain why a building is notable enough to be on the NRHP. I highly recommend that you take some more time to write and develop your articles, since you've been submitting articles 3-4 minutes apart, and cite additional sources besides the NRIS. If you need help finding additional sources, WP:NRHPHELP has a list of available sources for each state, including a link to a state database with almost all of Indiana's nomination forms. (There's also a nice tool to generate an infobox and categories for an article, though there's an implicit rule that the tool shouldn't be used to generate two-line articles based entirely on NRIS data.) TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 03:19, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. In my opinion a short article is better than no article. I agree the NRHP info is sometimes flawed. That's why it's helpful to get the articles started and sort out what the buildings are actually called etc. I often have to correct what's already included here. Additions and improvements are most welcome. I'm not a big fan of info boxes. I don't add categories myself and I'm sorry if that's a burden to others. Usually I do things the old fashioned way and create by hand. If there's a tool to create articles on NRHP listed properties it should be used. I don't see any reason why we don't have articles on all of them, especially when many of them have lovely photos. Happy Holidays. Candleabracadabra (talk) 14:10, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

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Request to approve my article as a separate entity

I submitted an article named 'BIIT' at Articles_for_creation/BIIT. You have added my article in the article named 'Arid Agriculture University, Rawalpindi'. The article BIIT is a separate institute and is just affiliated with 'Arid Agriculture University, Rawalpindi'. I don't want to add it in the article 'Arid Agriculture University, Rawalpindi'. Please approve it as a separate article and do not add it in any other article.Sidra456 (talk) 03:59, 28 November 2013 (UTC)