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Neutrality

I added a POV neutrality symbol because the last part of this article is at best, questionable.82.42.151.164 15:34, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The part about teams using his anger against him is something A LOT of commentators mention - being in the article just writes down what a lot of people think. Spain did this to DEADLY affect - how best to defend against rooney than get him off the pitch Thnom 21:55, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Add picture of Rooney

... several commentators comparing his impact to that made by the legendary Brazilian Pelé at a similar age during the 1958 World Cup. Other commentators, perhaps prematurely, have compared him to Manchester United legend Eric Cantona.

Which is more premature - comparing Rooney to Cantona, or to Pele? Wonder if a Man United fan added that last sentence ... AndrewMcQ 22:43, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

vandalism!!!!!!!! --213.235.102.135 09:16, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

He is compareable to Pele at his age, what is the problem???

I would suggest that at Manchester United it would be considered sacrilege to compare a young player to cantona as opposed to pele, a player who's list of erstwhile young heirs could constitute numerous teams! (217.43.172.170 19:07, 17 December 2005 (UTC))[reply]

vandalism?

i thought it said at the bottom of the page: If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, do not submit it. we CAN edit mercilessly.

Neutrality

Just a suggestion, but perhaps the main subheadings below the introduction could do with re writing by someone!

Picture

The previous picture had a "no source, will be deleted" notice on it, so I've replaced it, Just In Case. --fuddlemark 09:21, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect

Huh? how does London redirect to this? Surly the city of London is more important that some football player?

It was vandalism that was fixed. -- Reinyday, 19:16, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

POV check

I added the {{POV check}} onto this page because stuff like, in the opening paragraph, states "he is a talented young player" etc. Serious work must be committed to this article for it even to be regarded as NPOV. --Kilo-Lima 15:20, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Cite wanted

I see an anon has put Wayne in Category:Roman Catholics. Given his name, I wouldn't be surprised, but is there any clear evidence for it? And even if there is, is it a relevant fact to record? -- Arwel (talk) 02:49, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Christian Brothers La Salle is a Catholic school. Perhaps he's said he's agnostic or something (doubt it), but he was certainly raised Catholic.

Transfer fee

The initial fee of £22m is paid directly to Everton Football Club.

I think this is wrong. United initially paid Everton £10m. While another £10m was paid a year later on 1 August 2005. Plus a Payment of £3m if Rooney is still a United Player on 30 June 2007. I'll leave it for now to see if anyone disagrees. --Redmachine432 06:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not Biased

Though there are a few mistakes here or there, the article on the whole does not appear to me to be biased. Calling a talented player a talented player cannot be deemed to be inappropriate, and Rooney definitely qualifies as a talented player and also as one of the most promising young players of our time, as can be testified to by anyone who as seen him play.

59.93.245.124 17:57, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

I would suggest that describing him as a talented young player is not POV, as I'm pretty sure he's won a few young player of the year awards, which would be a definite source for the comment. The whole `temper` section needs renaming to `disciplinary issues` and its loaded terms removed (`tantrum`?), and there's nothing on the brothel thing in Personal life - BBCi can be referenced for that. Proto t c 09:28, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think also the SHREK lookalike thing is supremely important to half of Manchester82.9.36.7 06:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected

Thanks to the incessant vandalism of this article, I have semi-protected it which should at least keep some of the kiddies away. -- Arwel (talk) 17:44, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia section

I propose deleting the "Trivia" section as it appears to be becoming a magnet for for any rubbish people want to insert. As it stands, it's supposed to be reporting what was said about Rooney in the German magazine, "Kicker", but recently it's had "Footballers' Wives character Callum Watson is based directly on Wayne Rooney. Elements of Rooney can also be found in characters Darius Fry and Harley Lawson" added - can anyone prove this? (WP:V). The value of the advance of his book deal was given in Sterling in the immediately preceding paragraph (7.5 million euro = $5 million), and who the hell cares what his favourite breakfast cereal or rapper is? This is supposed to be an encyclopaedia, not a drooling fansite! -- Arwel (talk) 11:57, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pele / Shrek?

Why exactly did him being compared to Pele lead to him being nicknamed Shrek. Surely, this nickname is more to do with the fact that he actually looks like Shrek. I can't think of any possible connection between Pele and Shrek. Timb0h 09:53, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shrek

Is he actually nickamed Shrek, or is this the vandals?--M Johnson (talk • contribs) 09:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not even sure he's officially nicknamed anything. The "White Pele", I've only ever seen on Wikipedia. He does look a bit like Shrek, and the vandals like to try and get this in. The tabloid newspapers occasionally comment on it (like they compare Ruud van Nistelrooy to a horse). Proto||type 09:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You see it a lot on the web, can't say for sure if this is something the rival fans throw at him. Someone also went to the trouble of doing a piccy too - Shrek/Rooney--Andymarczak 10:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've actually just hidden all the nicknames from the article, and they should stay hidden until decent references can be provided. Proto||type 10:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone knows he's called Shrek. Skinnyweed 16:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Links

I am curious as to why links to sites relating to Rooney's injury have been removed. Do they not give an indication of the cultural impact of Rooney upon the Enlgish physche? I have restored them for the time being, but if they are subsequently removed, could the editor please bring the debate to here and justify it? Thank you. McGonicle 14:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References

Add more references and help inline cite them. Skinnyweed 00:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Foot scan brought forward

Source: BBC

This is so that Rooney does not have to fly back from Germany and a replacement can be drafted in - see article. TheTallOne 22:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: Is it worth mentionning that it was brought forward inorder for this to happen? TheTallOne 22:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That "World Cup doubts" section is recentism. There's more on this than his Euro 2004 performance. Skinnyweed 16:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good reason to add more on Euro2004, rather than take away from WC2006. In time, the injury section may be reduced accordingly to its long-term context. SLUMGUM yap stalk 23:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gambling

I've removed the heading as the allegations were denied, and thus I don't consider it important enough to be a topic on this page when it hasn't been substantiated. The content itself is still under the "personal life" heading. If anybody objects to this change please state why here before reverting it. 82.17.202.62 14:32, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]