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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Anne Delong (talk | contribs) at 23:42, 24 December 2013 (→Armands Celitāns: thanks). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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wikify!

Slovenly is a word I find myself using quite a bit at the moment. Slovenly is what I think of anybody who leaves a message here about an article and fails to provide a wikilink to the article. How do you expect me to read the article if you don't link to it? Even if the article has been deleted, you should still link to it.
I reserve the right to ignore any message which does not provide links where appropriate, has no heading, is in the wrong place on this page, has not been signed with ~~~~, is anonymous, etc.
And if that sounds like a grumpy old man, it's because I am ...

TWA navigation

H RHaworth! I wanted to chat with you about the TWA navigation. That's in use on several other pages, often as a footer where the white space is less problematic. I'm guessing you saw WT:TWA/Portal where the white space is indeed greedy. I'm going to undo your changes on Wikipedia:TWA/Navigation2 but then replicate them at Wikipedia:TWA/Navigation3 for use on that page. What do you think? Ocaasi t | c 19:14, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello, how are you? I think you mean this message: Wikipedia:TWA/Welcome. I agree that page doesn't need the white space. I'll see about fixing it. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 20:00, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

One thing to keep in mind, is these messages are showing up on people who have opted-in to play the game, and who have been notified that they will be getting messages in their userspace. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 20:05, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

My personal page

Please do not edit my personal page again. What you deleted was a note to wikipedia editors, such as yourself, that if you are not a student in my class, you do not have permission to edit this page. Since you are not a student, I kindly ask that you do not edit it again. Regards. Mr. Straub (talk) 02:12, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

deleted article

I'd really really love to see the edge city; Life on a new frontier article. As soon as possible is really important would be amazing. Thanks! Anna Ajacobsen94 (talk) 16:38, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

The Knowledge Centre for Agriculture Deletion

[Title width guide. Delete above here if no further edits - already in archive. If further edits, move below here.]

delete article

sorry to bother you but aparently you erase an article i was trying to public about Mariano Narodowski ... n you tell me why and how can re publish it? thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.23.100.23 (talk • contribs)

FMacks

Can you have a look at FMacks' contributions? He's made all of one mainspace edit, which was incorrectly adding a protection template, and other than that, he's just been playing in his userspace, consisting largely of stuff apparently copied from Raghusri's userspace. He's also (accidentally?) changed one page there, User:Raghusri/age. Do you have any idea what he's trying to do? Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:45, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

A User

Hello RHaworth, a user Ilovenewyear trying to create archives of my talk page (of Template and two articles of Pakistan event list). What can i do of him? -- Bluestor (Talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:04, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Isn't it suspicious that this new user has excellent knowledge of signature formatting, appears to only have made one edit (I can't see deleted edits) and has the same broken English as Yasir72.multan, which Ilovenewyear has been blocked as a sockpuppet of? Plus would a new user know to come straight to you?--Launchballer 21:40, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Blocking accounts of Chinese users

I am writing you to inquire as to why you blocked the accounts of two different students of mine, who happen to both be named David. One is David Zheng (User:David_Zheng1998) and one is David Pan (User:David.pzh).

First, what evidence do you have that this is sock puppet account? They can send you evidence, such as scans of their school ids, that show that they are in fact two different individuals.

Second, why have you blocked our school's IP address from accessing wikipedia? You have been fully notified and know exactly what we are doing, so there should be no confusion here. My intention is to do with the Hangzhou No. 14 High School article what I did earlier this year with the Fuyang, Zhejiang, which was dramatically improved in comparison to the original article.

Thirdly, this is part of a larger problem of discrimination against China based users. As you certainly know, access to wikipedia is periodically blocked in China and it is common for the edit feature in wikipedia to be blocked in China. Wikipedia blocks VPN IP addresses and now our school address is getting blocked. This is a systematic policy of discrimination by primarily Western English speakers against 1.3 billion Chinese. And it goes against the entire policy of Wikipedia - that is - an open access website that permits users to freely contribute to the site.

My goal is to get both of these users unblocked, have the sockpuppet label removed from their accounts, and have the block on our IP address unblocked.

I am signing off on this message from my original account, David Straub, rather than my Mr. Straub account, because I'm hoping that you take me a bit more seriously this time.

Regards David Straub (talk) 23:58, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Regarding the two specific blocks - please re-read this thread. It is a robust feature of the WikiMedia software that if a blocked user attempts to log in, it will invoke a block on the IP address they have used. This block should only last for 24 hours. I have unblocked the two accounts you specify. Please check for any of your students who have not edited since October. Make sure that they do not attempt to log in. Instead, check if they are still blocked as per this example and if they are let me know.
Stop this "discrimination against China based users" rubbish as far as I am concerned. I can assure you that I am perfectly happy for Chinese people to edit and will do anything I can to help circumvent your government's blocking of the internet. Indeed, I will go further: can you cite even one case of discrimination by Wikipedians against China based users? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:41, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

First, thank you for unblocking the accounts and IP address. As for discrimination against Chinese based users, it's not an intentional policy, but it is the result of blocking open proxies. Editors based in China often face obstacles attempting to edit wikipedia articles. Sometimes wikipedia is completely blocked by the Chinese government. At other times when we click on "edit" our connection to wikipedia is disconnected for several minutes. When one individual reads a page on wikipedia that triggers a firewall block from the Chinese government and everyone on that IP　address cannot access any wikipedia pages for 10-15 minutes. If you have enough users sharing an ip address, it effectively means that IP address is constantly blocked. When an IP address in China is blocked, editors using that IP address have few options for editing wikipedia articles, since wikipedia has a policy of blocking open proxies. In my opinion, if a user is signed in under a validated user name, we should not be blocked from using an open proxy. The way the policy is now, 1.3 billion Chinese, or 1/5 of the world's population, face unreasonable obstacles when editing wikipedia articles. Regards. David Straub (talk) 03:16, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

There are 4 more accounts that I am kindly asking to be unblocked: User:Sharow.CMY, User:Roy Zyh, User:EloryHou and User:Eileeeeeeeen. I can vouch that these are real flesh and blood individuals. In fact, David Zheng is feeling some distress because classmates think that he must have edited the page of some forbidden political topic that could get him in trouble. This is the reality of using the internet in China. I would appreciate if these accounts were unblocked. Regards. David Straub (talk) 11:14, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

  • I do not want to rub it in but I will remind you that you brought this misery on yourself by allowing (possibly even encouraging) your students to make frivolous edits. I have unblocked User:Sharow.CMY, User:Roy Zyh and User:EloryHou. User:Eileeeeeeeen has never been blocked - she merely fell foul of the IP address block I describe above. I have also unblocked User:Doris AP01 and User:AllanLY0518 which you missed. I sympathise with you about the matter of open proxies - I suggest you take this up with the Wikimedia Foundation where you will probably get a sympathetic reception. Your suggestion of allowing signed in users via any route seems reasonable and the Foundation might even be willing to create proxies which would recognise stuff incoming from China and allow it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:14, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Ninetology

Hi, My name is Eric and I wanted to make an inquiry regarding an article of ours that got deleted some time ago. This is the said link to the deleted article: Ninetology. May I request for the reason of the articles being deleted? And I get a copy of that deleted article to be reviewed? Wish to get to the bottom of this. Thanks a lot for your time taken to read this. Have a nice day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eric Ninetology (talk • contribs) 03:20, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Andreas Myrenblom

Hello Mr Haworth! I have a few questions regarding an article I most recently wrote about my friend and artist Andreas Myrenblom. When deleted, you refered to a rule regarding significance and importance of the subject at hand, which I did not fully comprehend. If you could please elaborate on why it isn't allowed to be posted, that would be great. Furthermore I'd like to ask if you could assist me in retrieving the article's text, as I didn't make a copy. Best regards, Pontus Edvinsson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pontuse93 (talk • contribs)

G2 doesn't apply in userspace

You deleted User:Lolmobiles as G2, which does not cover the user namespace. If it can be deleted under another criterion, please say, otherwise the page should be undeleted. Dark Sun (talk) 16:56, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

CSD G covers all namespaces. It would appear that User:Lolmobiles has something to do with Lolmobiles, which was deleted as vandalism.--Launchballer 17:20, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

A quote from WP:G2: "This criterion does not apply to pages in the user namespace" Dark Sun (talk) 17:22, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

ϢereSpielChequers is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

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No khan do

Put a page on about Khaled khan plzzz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.63.193 (talk) 10:57, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Hah! What a brilliant section header. Anyway, it would appear that someone has written an article on Khaled Khan.--Launchballer 00:21, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Yasir72.multan on going

The banned user Yasir72.multan is going. He stated to create archives of different users (e.g. Deb, Smsarmad, Darkens shines, Bluestor etc.) This time he/she creat this -- (119.160.118.78 (talk) 15:09, 21 December 2013 (UTC))

Dreamtwinz

Hi, you recently deleted an article named Dreamtwinz as a copyvio. Well I read and have understood all the reasons you gave and believe you are right. I now would like to recreate the page while following all wikipedia's rules and guideline that I have read but don't know how to go about the recreating process of the deleted page, please help. Thank you. --Greemcomics (talk) 01:06, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Holiday Cheer

Holiday Cheer
Victuallers talkback is wishing RH Season's Greetings! This message celebrates the holiday season, promotes WikiLove, and hopefully makes your day a little better. Spread the seasonal good cheer by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone with whom you had disagreements in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Share the good feelings. - Vic/Roger

Armands Celitāns

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Armands Celitāns. Dear Roger: I postponed this G13 eligible submission so that material could be used to expand an existing article. An opinion from Wikiproject Volleyball has confirmed that there is no useable material. Can the article now be deleted? —Anne Delong (talk) 02:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. —Anne Delong (talk) 23:42, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

The Greysteel Company

Hi RHaworth. In October, I submitted an article for creation for The Greysteel Company, a real estate company in Bethesday, MD. I saw that you deleted it, and I was wondering what I need to do to get it back up (reason for deletion, what I need to do to improve it, etc.) Thank you! Vssebastian (talk) 16:03, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Please re-read my reply here. I like to think that I provide proper reasons when I delete an article so it is rather galling for me to see here and on your previous message that you apparently have not read the reason. It may seem petty of me, but would you please tell me what deletion reason I gave - just the reason - do not, as many people unaccountably do, reproduce the entire deletion log entry. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:23, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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