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See Volga River.

some discussion of the battle of Stalingrad, 1941-43, the biggest land battle in human history?

Could someone please bring together the two sections concerning the Battle of Stalingrad? And please use more politically neutral expressions since this is not the Russian Wikipedia (for example: Second World War instead of the Great Patriotic War; the latter sounds odd for non-Russians). I already erased 'German-fascist group' because it didn't sound appropriate. Being objective keeps everybody happy! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.156.230.159 (talk) 09:05, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Was originally known as Ekaterinaberg, N? Trekphiler 15:50, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No. Ekaterinburg, or Yekaterinburg as it is usually transliterated today, is another city entirely, in the Urals, and bears that name today. During the Communist era, it was known as Sverdlovsk, after an old Bolshevik. The city, like many others, got its name back in the 1990s.65.13.220.212 (talk) 23:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong

Stalin was not part of the defense of stalingrad (at least in any noteworthy way) during the Russian civil war. Took it out. Someone else needs to clean it up. Your job not mine. Obviously a Russian (USSR nationalist?) edited the above into the article (many misspellings of a foreign nature as well). He may come back.

It would have been hard for anyone to defend "Stalingrad" during the Russian Civil War, since there was no such place at that time. It was still Tsaritsyn then. 65.13.220.212 (talk) 23:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

awkward wording

"Not to mention the unknown number of civilians killed" is a bit awkward. Needs to be edited, I'll do so later. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Climie.ca (talk • contribs) 15:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

literal translation

Shouldn't that be 'Steel city' or 'city of steel'? Steel is what stalin means yes? --maxrspct ping me 12:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Stalin" refers to Joseph Stalin, but the word itself does not mean "steel", although, of course, it is a derivative form. Were the city named for abstract "steel", the name would have been "Stalegrad" ("steel"=сталь, stal').—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh right, the Stalin biography I have seems to say steel. Perhaps 'steely' though? Or is it proper noun? Thanks. --maxrspct ping me 16:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, the city was not named after "steel", but after a person (Joseph Stalin). "Stalin", of course, is a proper name, which is why we do not translate it. Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How close is it to steel? I have it written in various books etc and its all over the web: "His first promotion came in early 1912, when Lenin invited him him to serve on the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party. he then changed his name to Stalin ("steel")" [1] --maxrspct ping me 19:41, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, "Stalin" does not actually mean "steel", but it is a good enough approximation when one needs to explain the meaning to a foreigner, since the root is the same. The word "Stalin" is basically the word "stal'" (steel) modified so it would look like a last name. There is, however, no such word as "stalin" (note the capitalization) in Russian. All in all, when a city is named after a person, that person's name is not translated into English, but is used directly. For example, if some place is called "Uletaysk", it would not be translated to English as "Fly Away" settlement just because "uletat'" means "to fly away", even though the root is the same.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Caricyn

I've noticed that the name "Caricyn" is sometimes used as a city in the Volgograd Oblast, and since the article listed "Tsaritsyn" as an alternate name, would Caricyn be the same as Tsaritsyn? --Įиʛ§øç βїʛβяøтњєя ^{Rant | Contributions} 21:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is simply an alternative, albeit less commonly used, variant of romanization of the Russian word "Царицын", which, as you correctly noted, is the former name of this city.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 02:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I understand. I have since redirected the Caricyn article to the Volgograd article. Perhaps a note should be made? --Įиʛ§øç βїʛβяøтњєя ^{Rant | Contributions} 03:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, there are zillions of "alternative romanizations" out there. Can't put them all in the lead. Redirects are fine, of course. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:39, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Latest edit

I have edited it to remove the captions- by a better summary para, removal of too may images, some rewording for brevity. Hope all are happyStarstylers (talk) 16:20, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not Much Information on a City of 1 Million People

For a city of 1 million inhabitants, there is not much information about this city. Geography, Demographics, Culture, Economics (there is about one sentence on this, but more would be nice), Government, Crime, Education, etc? More info please 115.64.28.195 (talk) 21:41, 21 February 2010 (UTC) in might 1942 world war II WAS COMING TO THE START —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.14.17.147 (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Twin towns and sister cities are meaningless!

Who cares about them? Böri (talk) 15:35, 21 February 2012 (UTC) Relevant facts for towns and cities across the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.100.105.30 (talk) 17:59, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Does any of the original architecture remain?

Any church, house, even ruins that you can visit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.138.104.132 (talk) 18:17, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, if by original you mean pre-1941.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:28, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stalingrad again

http://www.voanews.com/content/stalingrad-to-exist-again-6-days-a-year/1594350.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/9839666/Russia-revives-Stalingrad-city-name.html

Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 14:49, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Volgograd Synagogue here

There's nothing in Volgograd Synagogue to indicate independent notability. Suggest merging it here. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]