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Archiving old personal talk posts

Could you please advise how I would archive old talk posts on my own talk page? (some of my posts are now four years old!) Many thanks! EMP (talk) 00:55, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! You can cut and paste the old discussions into a subpage, such as User talk:EMP/Archive 1. (You can add {{talk archive}} to the top and bottom of the archive page as a reminder not to edit the page.) It's a good idea to let people know that archives exist, so add {{archives|auto=short|search=yes}} to the top of your main talk page. (This code also gives people a convenient search box to look up old discussions.) These instructions are from Help:Archiving a talk page. See more detailed instructions there. Hope this helps! --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 01:14, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Article writing/content correction project?

I'm taking part in the guild of copy editors' backlog drive and one of the articles I'm copy editing needs CONTENT editing/fact checking/content addition. What wiki project/team (like guild of copy editors or typo team) should I tag it to for content editing? I know nothing about the topic. Page is Vladimir Kvachkov if anyone here wants to have at it. Peeteygirl (talk) 01:14, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey Peeteygirl, thanks for your question. One of the many WikiProjects listed on the talk page of the article here would be appropriate to contract. WikiProject Russia or WikiProject Military History are your best bets, IMO. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 01:20, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

English Grammar Related Questions

Hi,

I have a grammar related question. Is it OK to ask it here, or should I do it somewhere else? Is there a help desk specifically for English grammar questions? Thanks. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello, welcome the Teahouse! Unfortunately, the Teahouse is for questions about Wikipedia itself. The reference desk can help you out with your grammar question. --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 00:43, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Marchjuly (talk) 01:36, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

InfoBoxes

Hello, sorry I keep trying to do an infobox of the key facts for a webpage (copied similar code etc) but it just doesn't seem to work for me. I know I am missing a crucial step but can't work out what it is - any help would be useful as I have resorted to a table but this appears on the left hand side of the page.

Many thanks M — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mande40 (talk • contribs) 04:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Mande40 and welcome to the Teahouse. When I look at the draft article you've been working on, the infobox looks fine. Did Puffin give you the help you needed? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:01, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello,
Yes it worked a treat first time so I was really delighted as I had spent ages trying to work it out. Thank you so much for coming back so quickly.

Mande40 (talk) 05:16, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

photos are welcome?

hello! Being knowledgeable in the area, I've been advised by a fellow teahouse host to collaborate to improve articles in the WikiProject Architecture. But I'm pretty new here and I'ld like to understand rules and standards: are photos welcome? can I upload them to the pages to illustrate architectural concepts? In a field like architecture, this might help a lot. Is there any specific mandatory -- or even customary -- procedure that I should follow? where can I find it? Thanks!Wikiwedid (talk) 05:22, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Did you take the pictures yourself? If so, that makes the process easier. See: MOS:IMAGES Checkingfax (talk) 06:07, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

• Also, and this is very important for architecture photography: make sure you understand copyright aspects of the work itself. If you are in a country that does not recognise freedom of panorama, you may be severely limited in what you can upload. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

• Most major English speaking countries, including the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, allow you to take photos of the outside of buildings without infringing the copyright of the architect. In the United States at least, this does not extend to sculptures. Detailed country-by-country guidelines are available at [1]. Please comply with the copyright rules for the country where you take your photos. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:47, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

If you do upload your own photos they are certainly welcome and this should be done at Wikimedia Commons so that they can be used on other language wikis.--Charles (talk) 09:55, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

How do I make contact with a user who has removed an edit of mine?

How do I make contact with a user who has removed an edit of mine? He says I can contact him, but i don't for the life of me know how. can you help, please? Beryl reid fan (talk) 13:23, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Beryl reid fan. You can contact Hamiltonstone by leaving a message for him on his talkpage. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanking you Beryl reid fan (talk) 13:37, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Beryl reid fan. Here's another option: If the edit is on page where a number of people have been contributing, and you think that the change may lead to a discussion about content on the page, you may wish instead to post the reasons why you think your edit was a good one on the article's talk page. Then you can add a message to the editor's talk page inviting him or her to comment. That way other editors who work on that page will see it as well and may chime in. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:43, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks v. much, Anne. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beryl reid fan (talk • contribs) 13:50, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Doing Some Easy OR

Hi all, I have a question specifically related to the Fully Qualified Domain Name page. At the very end of its main content, there's a on this statement: "Due to the scarcity of domains without a dot, not all browsers will permit this to work" where this refers to the URL "http://uz/". Now, it would be super easy to research this: just open up that URL in a bunch of browsers and see which ones work. I can tell you that Google Chrome doesn't while Firefox does, for instance. But how would I then add a citation? Obviously I can't just put in a note that I tried all these browsers, that would violate WP:NOR as I understand it. Or am I wrong? If I self-publish my findings on an external blog, would that do?

Phette23 (talk) 02:21, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Blogs are on the Wikipedia list of non-notable citation sources. Checkingfax (talk) 02:24, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Instead of submitting your research to a blog, Phette23, you could submit it to a source with professional editorial control and a reputation for fact checking. That's what we call a reliable source. If published there, it could be cited on Wikipedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:54, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, Checkingfax and Cullen328. I feel like the barrier to entry goes up pretty high when we talk about a professional publication such as an academic journal and I'm not sure who would be interested. But I'll consider it and hold off publishing somewhere without editorial control just for the sheer ease of it. Phette23 (talk) 15:16, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

feedback on a new article

Hello. I have created a new article in a sandbox. It is my first article, and it is a biography of a living person. Is it possible to ask someone to look it over to find out whether it is appropriate and to improve it, if necessary, to reduce the chance of it being deleted after it is published? (I don't know how to do this on the talk page.)

It is currently located at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:STScI/sandbox

However, I recently submitted a request to change my username (to Hubble001) after learning that "STScI" appears to violate the policy against using organizational names as usernames. So if the change is approved, I suppose it might appear instead at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hubble001/sandbox

Thank you! 130.167.231.14 (talk) 20:50, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the teahouse. You might want to put {{subst:submit}} at the top of the article in order to submit it to the Wikipedia:Articles for creation process. This means someone will, eventually, review it to see if it is suitable as a mainspace article, and move it to mainspace if so. It also greatly reduces the chances of it being deleted after being moved. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Arthur goes shopping. Hubble001 (talk) 17:09, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I made an error in editing a page and now the edit button for that particular area is not appearing.

How do I correct an error I made in editing? I saved my edit without realizing the error initially and now the edit button for that area of the page is gone. There's also a "cite error" message alert which I also need to correct. I fear it shall be a long time before I edit anything else at this rate. Thank you. Barbara Anne Nadon (talk) 19:46, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

All fixed no worries. You had added a piece of reference code to the heading that's all. Keep on editing. Theroadislong (talk) 19:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Good day, Barbara Anne Nadon. Any time that you have a section that doesn't have an "Edit" link for some reason, you can always still edit it by selecting the main edit tab at the top of the page and scrolling down. —Anne Delong (talk) 20:22, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Using a Picture from Wikipedia in another Language

Dear Teahouse, I'd like to use a picture that is already in use on the Chinese Wikipedia. I believe it is fair-use, since it is a movie poster. Can you tell me if I can link the picture to the Chinese entry, or must I re-upload the picture? Ioannespaulus (talk) 21:43, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Ioannespaulus. Fair use images are hosted individually on each language's own Wikipedia, and are for use only in a specific article. This is in contrast to freely licensed images hosted on Wikimedia Commons for use anywhere, by anyone, for any purpose. So, a film poster here can be used in a specific article on the film or possibly the graphic artist, but not for general use. You will have to upload it here with an appropriate fair use rationale. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:06, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

How to request for proofreading of a translated work

how does one request for a translated work to be proofread? I'd like to be proofread before working on verification. I believe that is more logical. thanks Emekadavid (talk) 09:33, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I'll be happy to help :) Thouny (talk) 23:24, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

list of pages needing edits

Greetings folks, I remember coming across a page that listed all of the gender-themed pages that were in need of edits/supplementation/revision/etc. Can anyone help me locate that page? Much obliged! Natjolly (talk) 23:35, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Maybe it was Wikipedia:WikiProject_Gender_Studies/to_do. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 23:49, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Natjolly. Wikipedia:WikiProject Gender Studies#Cleanup listing has a link to [2]. Was that it? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:50, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

thanks for your help!

Natjolly (talk) 00:01, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Citation Requested

Hi,

I added a "citation requested tag" to Dino Stamatopoulos regarding his behind the scenes work on the TV Show Community because there is only one mention of his name on the show's article page and it says that he left the show after the third season. Another user removed the tag and wrote "Just look at any of the show's credits" in their edit summary.

I have two following two questions: Was my adding a citation tag appropriate? and Was it's removal appropriate?

Thanks in advance -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:46, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Marchjuly and welcome to The Teahouse. I watch the show and remember who you are talking about. You were probably right to ask for a citation. I wouldn't necessarily call this controversial, but anything controversial should probably be sourced. I have generally used imdb to verify credits, but others here don't consider that a reliable source and I'm not sure of the site's status when used for this specific purpose. Maybe someone else can provide more information.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:41, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

@Vchimpanzee: Thanks for the reply. I only added the citation request tag because an edit was made on 12 December 2013 regarding Stamatopoulos's association with the show. It was changed by an IP editor from "played the recurring role of 'Star-burns'" to "plays the recurring role of 'Star-burns'," but no citation was given for his rejoining the show as either an actor or as producer/consulting writer. My bad if I added that tag in error. Thanks again. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:19, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

I think this page could be cited to show that Stamatopoulos has behind-the-scenes roles in Community. Even though the fact is non-controversial, and there is some weight to Community itself being the source, having directly-citable sources is almost always better. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 23:57, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

@LukeSurl: Thanks LukeSurl. I agree with what you. Telling someone to "look at any of the show's credits" doesn't seem like a very good way to verify what has been written. However, at the very bottom of that HuffPost TV article it says "'Community' -- minus Harmon and Stamatopoulos -- returns for its fourth season on Thursday, Feb. 7 at 8 p.m. EST on NBC." So, I'm not sure if that verifies that he is currently back on the show as an actor, a producer/writer or both. Thanks again -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:19, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Featured picture

Does anyone think this would make a decent featured picture? Thanks, --Jakob (talk) 01:25, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to the Teahouse. You can nominate it featured picture candidates. There you can find about more about what it takes to be a featured picture. --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 03:08, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Resolving a dispute.

Hi,

I have a question about resolving a dispute. I made a good faith edit to Shogi that I felt was an improvement. However, another more experienced user "undid" my edit and because he felt it actually made the page worse. That's fine. The person left a message on my talk page telling me what they did and that they would be willing discuss things point by point if I wanted. That's fine too. I thanked them, said I wouldn't undo their undo (though I apparently worded that poorly), suggested we work together to improve the section, and suggested that we could discuss it on my talk page, but that the Shogi talk page would probably me more appropriate. The response I got implied that because of my writing style, such a discussion on Shogi talk would likely be lengthy and possibly boring to others so my talk page was a better place to do it. That seemed like a red flag to me, but I am new to Wikipedia so I am not sure of the proper protocol. So we started discussing my mistakes, my poor writing style, my poor edits, etc. and were getting nowhere. I again suggested trying to get others involved, possibly by moving to the Shogi talk page and I've tried to keep my tone as positive as possible throughout, but I feel (wrongly perhaps) that this person is more interested in lecturing than discussing. I thought Wikipedia was about being a part of a community and trying to get as many people involved as possible so that a consensus can be reached, but it seems that I am apparently wrong. I am wondering if any more experienced editors out there have any suggestions on how I should proceed. I'd like to keep trying to improve that page, but I'm not sure now if I can. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, I'm certainly not a experienced editor, but that looks a bit like he did not want anyone else in the discussion because he wasn't planning on having a debate, but on imposing his opinions on you. That's only my feeling, of course, but I think you should have had that discussion on the talk page, where everyone could have expressed their opinion. Doesn't mean he's wrong, though, I'm just saying that it's not nice nor welcoming for a newcomer.Thouny (talk) 02:15, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your reply. --Marchjuly (talk) 04:12, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

uploading images in the country infobox

Hello!

I'm making my first wiki page about the micro nation of Columbusplein. I've tried to copy paste the country infobox from other micro nation pages, but somehow I get some text together with the images of the flag and coat of arms, that shouldn't be there, like 125px|border|alt=|Flag of Columbusplein]]

Trying to edit this text out but no idea what I'm doing wrong...

this is the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbusplein

Thanks! Seethisway (talk) 11:05, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Seethisway, welcome to the teahouse. I think the problem is that you are including too much information. The template is not expecting the square brackets [] nor some of the other markup. I have fixed the flag for you, see if you can fix the coat of arms the same way. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 11:08, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seethisway (talk • contribs) 11:10, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Still not sure why the word 'flag' shows up, but Coat of Arms is not there... Any help? Seethisway (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:32, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Was this edit what you intended to do? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:47, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

How Long Should It Take?

I (yesterday Morning) recently asked to be a confirmed user (because I want to upload files) and it is taking forever. I have the Criteria to skip the four days and ten edits, as the person that began to help me, stated. Why did the help stop? How long will it take to get it back? Thanks! Pending^{(tell me I screwed up} 20:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Simple English: Pending. Why such a rush? Is a little over a day really "forever"? The permissions volunteers had some questions for you and are considering the matter. You could ask them. You are going to be autoconfirmed in 2-1/2 days anyway. As my mom used to say, "Patience is a virtue". Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:03, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Your Mom Wouldn't have happened to be my 3rd Grade teacher was she? Pending^{(tell me I screwed up} 23:14, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

You still haven't satisfied the request to make an edit at simple:User talk:Pending to confirm you are that user. You were asked only 11 minutes after your request, and again when you made a new post without having done it. Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations#Instructions also asks for such a confirmation. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:19, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

It is done. I made the edit at the bottom of my page the first time…not the top. Its now at the top.Pending^{(tell me I screwed up} —Preceding undated comment added 13:23, 9 January 2014 (UTC)