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Other homosexual slanders

similarly, many rumors have been spread about various celebrities having large quantities of semen pumped from their stomachs. if there isn't an article on that, or on homosexual slanders in general, there should be, and this article should link to it. Akb4 23:14, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually real? unfortunately, yes

I (stupidly) followed up on this suggestion on a forum, finding the link on Spankwire after searching "gerbil". It is awful...but real video. Please god delete this wiki page. I wish I could unsee what I just saw. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.209.254 (talk) 03:36, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You saw movie with Arkafterdark. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.7.8.114 (talk) 20:59, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The web page cited 

http://www.urbanlegends.com/animals/gerbilling/gerbilling_debunking.html

is no longer on urbanlegends.com.

Ellsworth 21:40, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Fixed since. Akb4 23:14, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Felching and Gerbilling are not similar

One involves a small animal, one involves a straw. They should not be listed as the same/similar thing.

and they aren't. Felching, BTW, hardly requires a straw. It's inclusion here as a See also link seems acceptable although a template on sexual practices might be better. -- Banjeboi 12:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the myth might not be so implausible

When I was a kid we were told that gays liked to put a gerbil down a tube connected to his anus so that its whiskers would tickle him, not scaring it into cramming its way in there.. which is just ridiculous.. but the whisker-tickles idea makes sense somewhat. That's a sensitive spot.

Felching does not necessarily involve a straw - T

Family Guy Gerbil References

There was another one in that show where they're watching tv and the show is called... [someone's name] and the anus... and when it cuts back to the family, Peter says something like 'oh yeah remember that time when he got a gerbil stuck in his throat?' —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.106.254.13 (talk) 00:05, 9 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Sherry and The Anus, I believe, was the name of the fictional show. -- Banjeboi 12:05, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rumors

This is just getting ridiculous. Some reference needs to be made to the fact that several unnamed male celebrities have had rumors spread about them, especially seeing as the link to Snopes deals with the subject. In order to not violate the BLP policy, we will just not name them, and revert if names are added. It is unacceptable to just refuse to address it. Algabal 22:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please also note, the book reference I included can be viewed on Google Books, and does not mention anyone by name either! As several rumors (we noted they are false) have been spread about several male celebrities, not just one, and we are not naming them, this is not libel nor does it violate BLP. Algabal 22:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There is no rule against using names. The general rule is that the article should be constructed to reflect what the reliable sources on this subject say, not give WP:UNDUE emphasis to claims merely because they interest an editor. For example, if a claim regarding a particular celebrity appears in reliable sources whose subject is gerbilling in general, that is certainly notable even if the claims themselves are obviously false. If the claim appears only in sources that focus on a particular celebrity, or something other than gerbilling, then the issue of not repeating false accusations (even well-sourced ones) arises. Kauffner (talk) 17:05, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pulled unsourced statement

Does it need to be said that A medical doctor who works in an ICU in Nevada (currently remaining anonymous) explains that there have been reports of "gerbilling", and describes that it possibly originated in an underground or black market culture in France. The process is described as putting an animal, wrapped or unable to cause damage, inside the rectum. As the animal suffocates and dies, it convulses and vibrates, purportedly causing pleasure to the practicer. is unacceptable? Information must be verifiable. -- Akb4 07:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rumours about specific individuals

The fact that certain individuals have been the subject of a rumour does not mean that Wikipedia should continue to perpetuate what is, to all appearances, a completely untrue statement. It does not matter how many sources say "Celebrity X was the subject of Vicious Rumour Y" - unless there are reliable sources that say that something actually happened, it just plain doesn't belong here. Before adding information about any specific person to this article, first read Wikipedia's policy on biographical information about living people. If you have further questions about the interpretation of this policy with respect to the use of rumour in articles (even rumours that have been discussed in multiple sources), please ask at the Biography Noticeboard or the talk page of WP:BLP. Risker 05:02, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Let's try to keep the discussion to the article, people. Exploding Boy (talk) 16:54, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I just eliminated one See also. Per WP:BLP and WP:undue. See here. I see no reason to perpetuate a vicious and unsubstantiated rumor. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:09, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mice in vaseline

The below may be relevant to this wiki page. Specifically, the page casts things as "hypothetical" while this article appears to be a WP:RS for making it fact, not hypothetical. But I'll leave this for others to decide and edit according:

Thanks. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 15:30, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One more. And the results of that investigation may change this Wiki page to get rid of "hypothetical," etc. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 15:41, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I asked the director of the Whatcom Humane Society, which deled with the animals. She write nothing about the mice and write i should contact the Chandler Edwards team. --Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 20:56, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not a myth

IT IS NOT A MYTH. There was an article about in the New York Times in the late 80s or early 90s. Hospital emergency room doctors said they had patients with injuries sustained from gerbling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.127.154 (talk) 00:35, August 4, 2010

There you have it....definitive proof. Someone thinks they read about it twenty years ago.Asher196 (talk) 22:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a recent story: Mouse-infested naked man tased, arrested for burglary, assault Howards (talk) 21:43, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's for a USB-powered computer device, not a rodent... 24.150.164.214 (talk) 16:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, this is not a myth and I'll tell you how I know. In the early 1980s I was a recent college graduate working in Santa Clara, California. At the time my best friend was doing his residency at a hospital in Los Angeles. He had an interview scheduled at a hospital in San Francisco and he stayed at my house while in the area. While there he told me about a celebrity who had just had a gerbil removed at the hospital where he was working. That was the last I heard of it till the late 1980s or early 1990s when the rumor spread... about the very same person. The incident supposedly happened in that time frame, yet my buddy knew about it several years earlier (when it really happened). I think maybe it just took that long for someone at the hospital to spill the beans.

I don't wish this person or anybody else to be humiliated about the act. I'm posting this only because I believe the article should stay. It is not just an urban legend as many say.SDLarsen (talk) 15:35, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Asher196, please quit deleting my above comments. Though admittedly what I've written is insufficient evidence for making changes to the article, other supporting evidence may arise over time. (Who knows what other similar comments, if any, have already been deleted.) At some point I might ask my friend if would care to confirm what he told me. FYI -- since your objection is question of credibility -- my friend is now a world-renowned radiologist possessing a good deal of credibility. SDLarsen (talk) 21:05, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Possible source of legend

http://www.darwinawards.com/legends/legends1998-10.html 123.3.157.179 (talk) 12:47, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That is a falsified report based on a newspaper article that never existed. Read this: http://www.snopes.com/risque/homosex/gerbil.asp Nidht (talk) 16:30, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Torture cases.

By all standards this is not a consensual intercourse case, but there are indeed accounts of torture that may have helped create the myth, such as the Valech Report (text in Spanish) where roedents and other small animals were used in both male and female prisoners. Eerily enough, this is the only way this rumor used to manifest here in Chile.186.105.76.183 (talk) 12:51, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The PDF seems to disappear. I found the PDF this time only in Google-Chache. It states there, that in the first months there were cells with animals and insects like rodents, spiders, black beetle and others.
"De los primeros meses de la represión política también existen testimonios referentes a situaciones de confinamiento solitario o colectivo en celdas donde había animales e insectos, tales como roedores, arañas, baratas y otros."
Q: Comisión Nacional sobre Prisión Política y Tortura: CAPÍTULO V: Métodos de tortura: definiciones y testimonios, p.247, PDF-page 25
Prison cells with animals are described since long time around the world. --Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 18:38, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Celebrities who were defamed

This is kind of a ridiculous article, but I think [any named celebrity] should be removed from the "see also" section. He's not mentioned in the article, so it's only insinuated that the actor is the subject of gerbiling rumors. He should be mentioned in the article with sources demonstrating the rumors or he should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.109.90.242 (talk) 21:03, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He was removed, so apparently you haven't looked recently. See the sections on rumors concerning specific individuals above, which links to discussions that concerned him. Those policy considerations should apply to this article as well. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:07, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

propably first seen in an medical Journal

[p.7] Various other types of sexual behavior can potentially cause anorectal trauma:

  1. Sadomasichism
  2. Bondage, anal plugging
  3. Masturbation
  4. Fisting, gerbeling
  5. Foreign-body implantation

[...]
[p.8] A sexual practice has been mentioned recently where living rodents, including gerbels and mice, have been inserted into the rectum; the animal's futile efforts to claw its way to safety result in mucosal tears in the rectum.
Eckert, WG; Katchis, S (1989), "Anorectal trauma. Medicolegal and forensic aspects.", The American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology, 10 (1): 3–9, PMID 2648809 {{citation}}: Invalid |display-authors=2 (help)

But: For others, there are references in the article, or they are well known and logical. For "gerbeling" there is nothing. On [p.7] it states: "Fisting, which is not exclusively a homosexual activity, unfortunately has spread to many areas of this country and overseas. " On [p.5] under "Criminal Acrtivity": "Sadistic assaults on homosexuals (“gay bashing”) may include packing the victim°s rectum with foreign material or a plastic length of pipe, which occurred in a recent case here." Under "sexual activity" there is one break with pedophiles. There is allways: "boys and girls", boys first. Fig.7 is a picture with porno-articles: "A pedophiIe's collection of pictures or trophies of his "conquests."" It is frome one crime scene, all boys (pictures, picture books, video, etc.) .

On [p.8] under "Discussion" then he begins with "Gay bowel syndrome": "Various causes of Gay bowel syndrome have been described by Heller (10) [Heller M. The gay bowel syndrome. Ann Emerg Med l980;9:487.]: (1) New sexual practices (2) Analingus (“rimming”) (3) Promiscuity and anonymity (4) Asymptomatic infections: viral, bacterial, parasitic, chlamydial, AIDS. // This includes a vast variety of severe infections of the colon and rectum as related to sexual practices in which this area is targeted. These infections, which are often asymptomatic, become widespread through sodomy, fisting, analingus (“rimming”), the anonymity of certain kinds of gay activities, the use of common facilities including gay baths, and frequent sexual contacts. The rapid spread of AIDS speaks for the seriousness of the problems included in the gay bowel syndrome. // The investigation of anorectal trauma begins with the discovery or knowledge that the injured person may have (a) been raped or was a victim of sexual molestation (in the case of a child): (b) been in an accident where the person has fallen straddle legged; (c) been attacked or tortured anally as in a prison gang rape or as a result of “gay bashing” where a foreign object may be inserted into the rectum: // Investigation ofanorectal injury [...] External [...] Internal" Then he described that injuries may be discovered by [mostly child things]. And then he goes to forensic and documentation. The gay bowel syndrome don't fit really in this break. He must mentoin 4 times AIDS, it has a prominent role in his describing and he must place somewhere the GAY bowel syndrome.

If the first part of the article seems neutral, it goes then a little homophobic. This may explain, why he take the "gerbeling" for true. From Eckert it goes to the Book The Nature Of Homosexuality and to some medical books. The writing "gerbel" i found some times. Is this the writing in some parts of the US? --Franz (Fg68at) de:Talk 19:46, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The See also section included a proposed edit including Southpark. I think it should be there. Frankly, I think that it should be in a separate section with a reference, but I recognize that blogs are not WP:RS, and there seems to be a paucity of other sources. Why are we not including this in See also? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:52, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did put it back per WP:BRD. But I am not seeking to WP:Edit war, and invite reasoned discussion. In particular, there are (mainly) only three editors who monitor this article (we have our share of WP:Vandals due to the subject matter) and surely we can come to a consensus. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:51, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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