Talk:Khuzaima Qutbuddin
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Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2014
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Khuzaima Qutbuddin has been excommunicated from the Bohra Community officially after his false and unacceptable claim. 122.168.201.122 (talk) 10:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: You have made no edit request in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ", so it is unclear what you want added.
Furthermore, you have not cited any reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 17:35, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
"Please replace ‘Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin claims the 53rd Dā‘ī l-Muṭlaq (Dai, or Unrestricted Missionary) of the Dawoodi Bohras’ with "Syedna Khuzaima Qutbuddin claims the 53rd Dā‘ī l-Muṭlaq (Dai, or Unrestricted Missionary) of the Dawoodi Bohras. There is report that 'unilateral claim has not gone down well with the 2-5 million-strong Dawoodi Bohra community' and they 'decided to excommunicate him from the community'." . [1] 122.168.201.122 (talk) 10:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC) Request reviewed as per comment.--Md iet (talk) 03:57, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2014
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The base of the article in which it is commemorated as 'Syedna' is completely fake. He is not currently a 'Syedna'(A post which is only used to refer the leader of Dawoodi Bohra community. Right now the leader is Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin. This Khuzaima Qutbuddin was a Syedi & Mazoon. But he wrongfully claimed that he was the true successor when the whole community of 1 million strong has witnessed Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (52nd Dai) giving nass(succession) to Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin (53rd Dai) publicly, 3 years ago. Khuzaima never claimed anything at that time. The day Syedna Burhannuddin passed away, he claimed that nass had been done on him 49 years ago in seclusion. Now even in seclusion, this ceremony requires at least 4 witnesses. He doesn't have one and claims that he was been anointed. There was an instance in the past when this had happened privately when no one else was present. But, in that time the conditions were different. In this case the Syedna Burhannuddin had 50 years to disclose it if he truly was the successor. In this age of technology even if secrecy was to be kept(as Khuzaima claims), he could have at least made a video or recording secretly with Syedna Mohammed Burhannuddin for proof. But he has none. The reason? He was never anointed.
All other information mentioned is correct but in the present, he is not to be referred as 'Syedna', 'Syedi' or ' Mazoon'. He once used to hold these positions, but now all of his offices are taken away because he revolted against the 53rd Dai Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin and in our community if you do not believe the dai, the you are not a Bohra and this holds true for all religions. You cant be called a Christian if you do not believe in Jesus, Nor can you be a hindu if you do not worship 'Shiva', nor can you be a Muslim if you do not follow ' Rasullah saw' and similarly u can't be a Dawoodi Bohra if you do not follow the 'current Dai'.
Khuzaima only has few members of his own family with him All his brothers and their children and families are with Mufaddal Moula. Even his own daughter is with Mufaddal Moula. He has very few people on his side not even 0.1% of the total Dawoodi -Bohra strength.
His own son, Abdeali had previously accepted that Syedna Mufaddal is the true successor. Now he has retracted from that, but any ways in this digital age, I have a video proof. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xaVDhYGvEfc References - http://believesyednaqutbuddin.com/
I entirely agree with the above statements and verify as a member of the Dawoodi Bohra Community, that Khuzaima Qutbuddin is an imposter and has attempted to forcibly seize the position as Syedna/ Dai and such lies should not be entertained and posted on wikipedia to mislead readers of this article.
http://www.dnaindia.com/pune/report-bohras-come-out-in-support-of-syedna-s-son-1957086 http://freepressjournal.in/syedna-aali-qadr-mufaddal-saifuddin/ http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-syedna-mufaddal-bhaisaheb-saifuddin-was-anointed-in-2011-1953934 http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-134494-Mufaddal-Bhaisaheb-Saifuddin-new-spiritual-head-of-Bohra-community TahaKachwala (talk) 10:22, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Not done Evidently what you have said is the view you hold to be true, but editing to impose a particular point of view on an article is unacceptable. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:56, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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I belong to dawoodi bohra community and would like to report a malcontent.
Khuzaima Qutbuddin is notBold text 53rd Dā‘ī l-Muṭlaq (Dai, or unrestricted missionary) of the Dawoodi Bohras, however just a claimant. Syedna AaliQadr Mufaddal Saifuddin is the successor of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin and 53rd Dā'ī l-Muṭlaq of the Dawoodi Bohras.Italic text
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