Talk:Small business

not about small businesses, not being wikified

This article, apart from not being wikified, is not about small businesses. It looks more like advice on how to run a small business. This could be a separate section of the article, but it should not be the entire contents of the article. The article should at least begin with what a small business is and/or what qualifies as a small business.

A seperate issue is that it looks like the text was lifted straight off the Internet. I didn't do too much googling, but many of the phrases are so generic that they could come from dozens of places.

I agree with that completely - especially the section on 10 reasons why a business fails, looks like it's straight from a textbook perhaps. --Jonohill 01:53, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Normally I'd attack this myself, but can't right now. Anyone else? —Frecklefoot 18:35 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The part about the end about Bush is just off topic.

Agreed. This page is not helpful in its current state. I too would like to see some changes made here. Will make some as time allows. --Small business 18:33, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

external links

A lot of water under the bridge with respect to the external links. However, there is a clear problem with respect to user 63.198.13.10, which is obvious if you take a look at his history. At time of posting the current links now seem to be fine, but for how long? This is a competitive arena and he and others tend to add and delete links for their own reasons.

I wonder about SK's mission here. He deletes perfectly good references and seems answerable to no-one. No problem though: he's bored me away from the wiki, so he wins.

There are quite a few other "Small business forums", so why yours? Wikipedia is not a web directory, so while I don't question that your forum might be a good discussion forum for small business owners, it's not Wikipedia's task to keep track of those forums. Look for example at the Open Directory Project for such a service. --S.K. 19:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

"So why yours?" - can you actually read? I stated clearly in the summary that it wasn't mine. I added it back because it is a decent uncluttered forum which I have posted to. Meanwhile, 63.198.13.10 appears again with real spam, for the hundredth time with his smartbiz link, which you seem awfully tolerant of. As I said above, I added one link to a good resource and get this from someone who is clearly small minded and very sad. Have happy wiki because I won't be back with the likes of you around.

The ASBL or the American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) is a small business resource and has been added to the "Small Business" page —Preceding unsigned comment added by ASBL2008 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I removed the link as it breached WP:SPAM. Please don't re-add the link as it seems like you are trying to promote something in which you are associated with. AngelOfSadness talk 18:13, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

photodude (talk) 20:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)==references for revisions - what is a small business== Since there is a lot of talk about the increase of minimum wage and tax breaks for small businesses, I have (and my husband) done a little research on what exactly is a small business. Wiki has offered some information, and I have found information Wiki might be interested in as well which would change the definition of a "small business". I am offering this information in hope that someone will revise the current small business article.

I offer this site for study: [1]

This website defines what exactly a small business is and falls under the requirements of the SBA (Small Business Association). When compared, the Wiki definition of a small business consists of about 100 employees; however, the examples given at this website are as much as 1,500 employees. This number clearly exceeded even the definition of the Wiki "mid-sized business".

That concludes my concerns, Thank you, warmly, --IMSassafras 20:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

According to the SBA a small business is classified in one of two ways, gross sales in millions or number of employees. see table [2]

For most industries a small business has less the 500 employees and or does less then $6.5 million in sales. Some industries are still a small business when there is as many as 1,500 employees or as much as $32.51 million in sales or as much as $165 million in assets.

The main article should be clarified to reflect one of these sources and remove the other definitions, in addition other related articles should also be updated to have the best definition of what a small business is. - so which of the above mentioned sorces are we going to use?photodude (talk) 20:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

This needs a total Wiki makeover

The "Small business" page is missing a tremendous amount of key information and resources; and much of what's here is outdated, inaccurate, incomplete or off topic. If nobody objects, I'll take a stab at rewriting it. I've been covering small business as a journalist, editor, columnist, author and publisher for 20 years; named "2008 Small Business Journalist of the Year" by the U.S. Small Business Administration (Los Angeles district), and have about as much experience in this area as anybody. What Works for Business (talk) 00:07, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I am in total agreement. This page needs serious work. Go for it! Cazort (talk) 16:55, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Statistics?

No statistics available on the spread scale and 'scope'? How many? How many employed, on average, what percentage of the overall economy do they constitute?

Starting in the literature

A good start in the literature is Hamilton's 2000 article Does Entrepreneurship Pay? An Empirical Analysis of the Returns to Self‐Employment. Look this up in Google Scholar; there are a few hundred articles citing it which discuss small business research. II | (t - c) 05:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Mom and pop

Only North Americans refer to small businesses this way, so I think there's a good case for removing this given the global nature of the subject. Architypist2 (talk) 08:55, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Citations

Going through the resources cited from SBA.gov - they're not credible and lead nowhere, especially not to facts. There's a serious lack of statistics on this page AND very outdated information in regard to the SBA's February 2012 press release that states changes in regulation sizes for 37 industries. Furthermore there is no umbrella definition provided here, at least not a credible one. The page also needs updates for the JOBS Act and the new regulations it imposes. aureliasaurus ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:05, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

how to determe the size of a business

school work — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.79.189.2 (talk) 06:20, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

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