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2011 TOC talk about Wikipedia?

According to [1], Swartz gave a talk about Wikipedia at the O'Reilly Tools of Change for Publishing Conference 2011 (the link to the actual talk is dead). But going to [2] I can't see him listed as a speaker. Can anyone figure this out? Maybe the year is wrong or something like that... Someone not using his real name (talk) 23:21, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Aaron Swartz, Wikipedia and the Future of Libraries, Address at the O'Reilly Tools of Change for Publishing Conference (Feb. 12, 2008), http://web.archive.org/web/20130729110418/http://blip.tv/oreilly-tools-of-change-for-publishing-conference/aaron-swartz-wikipedia-and-the-future-of-libraries-976337

In this talk, we’ll … review new research challenging conventional wisdom about how its articles are authored, and discuss Open Library, a new project to extend Wikipedia’s reach into the publishing world by creating a wiki with a page for every book ever published.

also at http://www.toccon.com/toc2008/public/schedule/speaker/2540 (“Aaron Swartz, Tech Lead, Open Library”). --Dervorguilla (talk) 06:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC) 06:53, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reference column widths

I've set the 30em widths (see Template:Reflist for details why this is one of the common styles). This has been reverted twice without a reason - do you think 30em is too narrow for the widths in which case is 40 or 45em OK? Can you detail your reasoning, as I'm trying to follow the commonest style which with over 200 refs this should easily be fitting for em rather than a fixed 2 columns to reduce whitespace. Widefox; talk 00:59, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No strong opinions, but I generally use 35em. Andy Dingley (talk) 01:13, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Reflist: Practices
“The number of columns to use is up to the editor, but some major practices include: … 2 columns specified: Where there are a number of Footnotes; 30em: Where there are many footnotes plus a page-width Bibliography subsection.”
Many featured articles do use 30em, however.
More important, perhaps, is that very few have 200+ refs. Could you help eliminate a couple? (Then we could spend a little quality time on the column question...) --Dervorguilla (talk) 01:40, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes under practices an em (e.g. 30em) is detailed for this many references. The more refs, the more automatic column selection (em sizes) is useful. The problem with the fixed 2 columns, although completely acceptable, is they they do not automatically scale with browser window widths. They force 2 columns whatever the width. With this many references a size like 30em, or as Andy prefers 35em, (the size should be selected to fit reference widths and reduce whitespace) automatically scales - providing say two columns for typical browser windows width, more for wider windows. Reducing the number of references is a separate issue. Dervorguilla, the em widths have been used here, what's your actual objection? Is it's just the width, shall we try 35em? Widefox; talk 18:06, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
P:FC, at New featured content - Articles, currently gives three articles without a Bibliography or the like. One uses Reflist|2; two use Reflist|30em. Template:Reflist#Practices, at Major practices, gives Reflist|2 ("where there are a number of Footnotes", meaning, more than a few) and Reflist|30em ("Where there are many footnotes plus a page-width Bibliography subsection"). H:REFCOLS gives only Reflist|30em "where there are a number of footnotes".
30em, 4-2. --Dervorguilla (talk) 21:27, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
30em is the way to go. I use it even in articles with not very many references. With almost 200, it's certainly necessary to do it by width. 35 or 40 could be almost as good. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:37, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Dervorguilla , please ensure that you reason here to try to reach consensus. Although I still don't know your objection, and you setting 30em makes this moot, it is important to reason for change/lack of change, else this may give the impression of WP:OWN. Thank you, Widefox; talk 01:16, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Reflist was reset (not “set”) to 30em based on H:REFCOLS and on current frequency of use at P:FC ("New featured content - Articles"). Also on consensus (30–35; 35; 30; 30). There is no appearance of WP:OWN because no editor is disputing minor edits daily or even monthly, and so forth. --Dervorguilla (talk) 04:51, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Someone said I can't place that he was Jewish

They had said that there is no such thing as "de facto and de jure religions" yet that concept has been used on many occasions on Wikipedia for example Karl Popper Kirk loganewski (talk) 15:02, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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