User talk:Jarkeld
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November 2013
Hello. I wanted to let you know that I undid again your your recent contributions to Talk:Bruce Campbell because it had erased constructive edits. Marking as « addressed » issues which need no further attention is helpful and I am surprised -to say the least- you qualify my editing as not constructive. Should you still not be convinced, take the time to read the diff. carefully this time. Like I said in <>, feel free to amend my edits if you think of a better layout but reverting them and sending automated message was clearly not the good way here.--210.159.191.90 (talk) 21:56, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
- pointlessly adding those templates to edits made years ago is not constructive. Have they been added by the people who actually did the edits, date & timestamped: constructive. By an IP years later: not constructive. I reverted you before and you did not provide a compelling reason to re-add the checkmarks. I have removed them again. Jarkeld (talk) 00:33, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
- pointlessly ? YOU say so. I assumed the contrary twice...
- reverting was most unnecessary….removing those temps without a real explanation/a closer look was stiff.
- arguing that check marks should be made only by sb -I suppose that’s what you meant by Have/d? they been added etc..- who made the actual edit (!!!!) but who may obviously not even have SEEN the TP is either a lack of understanding of how a wiki works or a despaired attempt to create a new one. Anyway…You made your point.
- What does IP or not IP have to do with it? Something wrong with IP users that I know not? I explained why I dit it after your first revert (my first explanation was unreadable, true). A COMPELLING REASON? IT was USEFUL. To avoid people who wish not, wasting their time. Not enough ? If wasting people’s time is your hobby and a new WP Policy : constructive; but if not : not constructive.
- Your removal seems to have been honest in the FIRST place but then, no.
- You ALSO could have seen (or maybe you saw?) -as I HAD explained twice- that one thread section was repeated by evident mistake….Was it not constructive to erase one of the two ? I'm wondering what you could say about this in good faith. Well, no, I’m not, actually.
- As for the fact that threads are old, hellooooo, some issues are addressed only years later on WP. If you HONESTLY did not know it, well, now you do and all is for the best. You archiving of the whole TP -after a more than pointless but proud revert that leaves a doublet-section to puzzle future readers for wp-eternity- shall be the best conclusion to it all. Hope you’re happy with it. Likewise, greetings, Registered User.--210.159.191.90 (talk) 02:09, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Clearly you don't have a clue about what is and is not appropriate at a talkpage. If you had processed the various items and then checked them off and signed them off it would have been appropriate. As you didn't you should not make it appear as if you did. Period. I think you do not have a clue about the correct usage of a talkpage. Jarkeld (talk) 02:18, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
AFC Backlog Drive
Hello, Jarkeld:
WikiProject AFC is holding a two month long Backlog Elimination Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from December 1st, 2013 – January 31st, 2014.
Awards will be given out for all reviewers participating in the drive in the form of barnstars at the end of the drive.
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Delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) at 09:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
I removed the speedy tag, as the newbie appears to have lost the link or interest in finishing it immediately. Can you review it later, and if it still fails, then you can prod it. Bearian (talk) 17:25, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- I doubt the editor will return, as he hasn't edited it in over a year now, with the final edit made 2 days after I declined it. The refs he added at that time are insufficient to establish notability. The band seems equally non-notable.
- I think a G13 should be used to re-nominate it for deletion as PROD is not allowed in project space. Or a xfd. Jarkeld (talk) 13:55, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
Please check articles for Harvard style referencing before tagging with unreferenced. Many articles by newbies also add references in an entirely unformatted style which also count as references nevertheless. SpinningSpark 16:59, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- Please check WP:HARVARD. If the works referenced in line aren't mentioned in full somewhere, they can be considered not referenced at all. It is nice to know something is attributed to Power et al. 1985, Power et al. 2008. Are these books? Articles? Titles? Who knows. -> Unreferenced. Jarkeld (talk) 20:24, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, agreed, full citations are supposed to be provided, but WP:HARVARD does not actually say that articles that don't provide them are to be considered unreferenced. There are better templates to use for such cases, such as {{full}} and {{ref expand}}. SpinningSpark 20:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- I didn't say that it said that. I meant that if you look at it it isn't referenced. The Harvard method page mentions that full citations are required in the references section. Only authors and a year do not a full citation make. No way to know if there actually is anything there to support the text. New template added. Jarkeld (talk) 20:53, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- Are you sure there is no way to know? Ugly template on the article might work if a passing reader takes pity, but I wouldn't hold your breath. The other way is to do what I did and do a little research. SpinningSpark 21:43, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- The best option would have been notifying the author that he needed to improve the refs before accepting the article. I will try to fix things, add refs and such, but I tend to do that before accepting. Jarkeld (talk) 21:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- This is one of the hundreds of thousands of articles slated for G13 deletion. I am trying to rescue some of them, but in the vast majority of cases the original author has not been on Wikipedia for years and there is no chance of them coming back to fix anything. SpinningSpark 22:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- One of the problems with G13: some can be rescued with a bit of work, but it's difficult in cases like this one. As it stands now it's ready for prime time. Jarkeld (talk) 22:43, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- This is one of the hundreds of thousands of articles slated for G13 deletion. I am trying to rescue some of them, but in the vast majority of cases the original author has not been on Wikipedia for years and there is no chance of them coming back to fix anything. SpinningSpark 22:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- The best option would have been notifying the author that he needed to improve the refs before accepting the article. I will try to fix things, add refs and such, but I tend to do that before accepting. Jarkeld (talk) 21:57, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- Are you sure there is no way to know? Ugly template on the article might work if a passing reader takes pity, but I wouldn't hold your breath. The other way is to do what I did and do a little research. SpinningSpark 21:43, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- I didn't say that it said that. I meant that if you look at it it isn't referenced. The Harvard method page mentions that full citations are required in the references section. Only authors and a year do not a full citation make. No way to know if there actually is anything there to support the text. New template added. Jarkeld (talk) 20:53, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, agreed, full citations are supposed to be provided, but WP:HARVARD does not actually say that articles that don't provide them are to be considered unreferenced. There are better templates to use for such cases, such as {{full}} and {{ref expand}}. SpinningSpark 20:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Marsianen
Why are you against the truth that everyone knows? You watchmen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marsianen (talk • contribs) 23:27, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- ? I nominated the article you created for deletion as it is a misplaced talk page comment. Please read my comment on your talkpage. Ps.: new comments should go at the bottom of a talkpage. Jarkeld (talk) 23:35, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Haiku-Depot Article
The user who created the article in question is in Google programme for kids to learn about open source software (GCI2013). Could you help give further guidance to the student in what he did wrong? I have already told him/her that there is plagiarism in the article and that it is not to encyclopedic standards. Dlpkbr (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:07, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
- The biggest problem I saw with the page is that there aren't enough sources (reliable third party sources) to indicate why we should have a page on Haiku-Depot (per WP:NOTABILITY. As such I don't know if it could have been saved. The article was deleted as a G11 (Promotional) so I guess another user and an admin viewed it as such. Jarkeld (talk) 21:16, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
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