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Wikidata weekly summary #96

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
  • Events/Blogs/Press
    • See the office hours logs at meta
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • See the FOSDEM slides
    • Thiemo joins the Wikidata development team
  • Development
    • More work on badges by Bene*
    • Lots of Lua improvements by hoo (separate announcement with details soon)
    • Created backend Time parsers (yet another necessary step towards doing more in the backend instead of in Java Script in the frontend)
    • Automatic builds created, tested and deployed to beta labs every day!
    • Investigate Elastic Search as possible backend for queries
    • Made Wikibase Query work with our new component structure
  • Monthly Tasks

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Romaine (talk) 17:24, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Style guidelines for disambiguation hatnotes

Hi there,

Thank you for expanding the Film Programme redirect into a full article in its own right.

I notice that you included a disambiguation ("dab") hatnote at the start, which was useful, but please note that- to the best of my knowledge- such dab lines should follow similar rules to the full disambiguation page style, i.e. only link variants of- or items likely to be confused with- the "The Film Programme" itself and not (e.g) Claudia Winkelman, since that name doesn't require disambiguation there.

Hope this explains things. All the best, Ubcule (talk) 17:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

Enough of this nonsense

You have been here more than long enough to know not to create them (Csaba Sógor the latest), please can you add some sources? GiantSnowman 19:58, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

(watching) So you say? I added one to the one already there. Don't you think you confused source and inline citation? For all members of the European Parliament, there's an entry. - Please, if you catch an article I wrote with edit summary "start", - give me some time for sourcing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) See also WP:DONOTDEMOLISH. Montanabw(talk) 21:21, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Again, creating unreferenced articles about living people is not on - Franck Proust and María Muñiz de Urquiza the latest. If I see it again I will have to block you for violating WP:BLP. It's not hard to add one quick reference while you build an article, is it? There's really no excuse. GiantSnowman 19:32, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
You won't have to do anything of the kind. Your alternative is to not be a dick, read the sensible replies given to you above, and wait for work on those short stubs to progress (as indeed it has in each of those you cite). Meanwhile, do please feel free to point out any defamatory or otherwise harmful (to the subject or the project) content in those stubs. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:04, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
BLP clearly says "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion" - the fact the content is not "defamatory or otherwise harmful" is irrelevant. "John Smith has a massive penis" is not necessarily defamatory or harmful, would you allow that to remain? Sourcing new articles is both very important and very easy, and the fact you fail to recognise or accept either of those two facts is highly concerning. GiantSnowman 13:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
(still watching) The key word in what you quote is "contentious". Your failure to see that is discerning, so is your choice of example. Wikipedia has problems. A stub being without a reference for a short while is not one of the serious ones, if you ask me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Because I actually care about BLP I view all unsourced material as contentious. I wonder how many seconds it took to make this edit, and I again question why that could not be done before clicking 'save' for the first time. GiantSnowman 13:23, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I have no time to answer because I left a new article without inline citations. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
C'mon, Gerda, Giant Snowman isn't confusing inline citations with sources. The articles he pointed out had zero sources, not even a bare url external link, and remained so for hours after creation, e.g. [1], [2], [3], and no doubt many more. His initial request was entirely reasonable. Voceditenore (talk) 15:19, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I didn't say he was confusing anything. I said that my priority was sourcing. I have almost no time today, please understand, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes you did. When Giant Snowman first mentioned this here, your reply was "So you say? I added one to the one already there. Don't you think you confused source and inline citation?". In fact, when he posted here, that article had zero sources despite the fact that it asserted that the subject was a pastor in the Reformed Church in Romania (information pulled out of nowhere?) and remained so until another editor finally added one. The same applies to the other examples. I repeat, Giant Snowman's request was perfectly reasonable. I too consider rapidly creating a series of unsourced stubs about living people with zero sources and expecting someone else to provide them to be not only bad practice, but also a completely unnecessary violation of our policy on BLPs. Voceditenore (talk) 16:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
The assertion about the reformed church was not added by me. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:30, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Such irrelevant discussion of pudenda is not welcome here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:30, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
That's exactly my point - where is this information coming from? If you are so pushed for time that you cannot provide even a basic reference then do not create the article. If this continues then the matter will be raised elsewhere. GiantSnowman 17:04, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Actually, I've just seen that Salvatore Caronna was created this morning. The sole reference is so poor that it constitutes no-sourcing at all. I will be taking this matter to ANI. GiantSnowman 17:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. GiantSnowman 17:18, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Where your hysterical attempt to generate drahma (a topic ban, indeed!) has been rebuffed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:30, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

My Two Cents: Andy, you need to either (a) hang a { { construction } } template on the top if you're coming back to source out the microstubs you are churning out; or (b) take another 30 seconds to add one source. That's really pretty much a mandatory minimum for BLP, is it not? Hell, it's a minimum for anything at WP these days. Don't get your backhair up, just do what we all know needs to be done for each and every new start. Carrite (talk) 05:27, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Such a template would discourage collaborative editing, which is what neither I nor Wikipedia are about. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:30, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Andy!

Thanks for all your help. You can buy us all a beer. Matchstickgeezer (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Andy

Thanks for the very interesting training today! :) Allen 56285 (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Andy

This is the best course on how to use Wikipedia I've ever been on. Edders8 (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Andy

Thank you for coming today this has been very interesting HilaryHopker (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Andy!

Hello Andy,

Thank you very much for all your help today. The wiki-love has been a highlight! Ramona De Souza (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Andy

Thanks for teaching us how to edit Wikipedia. HanLouNew (talk) 10:24, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Der Kontrabaß

as discussed before, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Elayne Boosler

Interested in her for your celeb voice project? If so please tell me what she needs to do. bill@coreentertainment.bizBillybd1948 (talk) 20:50, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Reginald Mount

Orlady (talk) 22:41, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Bob Leaf

Per your COI Noticeboard declaration, I observe:

This highly controversial assertion: "Credited as "the father of public relations"..." is backed up only with a dead link. That needs to be rectified or removed.

Best regards, —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 19:27, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

That seems to be a temporary glitch; it was fine yesterday, and worked for me just now, on the second refresh. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:33, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: January 2014



Headlines
  • France report: Public Domain Day; photographs
  • Germany report: WMDE-GLAM-Highlights in 2014
  • Netherlands report: New Years Reception; 550 years States General; Content donation University Museum; Wikipedians in Residence; OpenGLAM Benchmark Survey
  • Sweden report: Digitization; list creation
  • Switzerland report: The Wikipedians in Residence of the Swiss National Library have started their work
  • UK report: Voices from the BBC Archives plus Zoos, coins and Poets
  • USA report: GLAM-Wiki activities in the USA
  • Open Access report: Open Access Media Importer; Open Access File of the Day
  • Calendar: February's GLAM events
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Any ideas...

Andy, I've noticed that, fairly recently, the infoboxes at articles such as Warwick Castle and Berkhamsted Castle aren't displaying their maps. This seems to be fairly widespread across similar articles, but I can't see what might be causing it... Any ideas? Hchc2009 (talk) 17:54, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Probably related to Wikipedia talk:MILHIST#Exciting template news! - I suggest you ask there if you need further assistance. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:47, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Andy. Hchc2009 (talk) 19:01, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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Infobox power station

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Wikidata weekly summary #97

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
  • Reasonator
  • Did you know?
  • Development
    • Wrote performance tests so we can track performance improvements better
    • Did a code review of all gadgets that are enabled by default in Wikidata. Found and fixed a performance bottleneck.
    • Work on making the interface more responsive, e. g. live preview when editing labels and updating the watchlist star when saving.
    • Started refactoring and fixing issues with automatically created summaries that are, for example, created by bots via API calls.
    • Fixed an issue with OAuth on Wikidata because of permissions
    • Started code review of the code the student team is working on for suggestions
    • Discussed updates to the data model document to be able to update it to the actual implementation
    • Did a technical debt analysis and design review of Wikibase.git, with initial focus on WikibaseLib
    • Got (backend) EntityStore on the way, so we can test API modules without touching the database
    • Further work on TimeParsers move to the backend
  • Monthly Tasks

Theodore Katsanevas

DYK nomination of Theodore Katsanevas

Hello! Your submission of Theodore Katsanevas at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! DES (talk) 19:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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