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AT&T ends sponsorship

Announced on January 15, AT&T has withdrawn its sponsorship of American Idol.

Sources:

http://variety.com/interstitial/?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fvariety.com%2F2014%2Ftv%2Fnews%2Fatt-hangs-up-on-american-idol-sponsorship-1201059441%2F

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/16/us-americanidol-att-idUSBREA0F05220140116

Artist

We need the name of the artist. I need to add it. OK

Please don't. We have already decided not to add it. The reason is that too many people fight over who the original artist is, it is an entirely pointless argument as far as American Idol goes. You only give the name of the artist when it is relevant, for example on certain theme week where the name of the artist is important, otherwise it should not be added. Hzh (talk) 15:38, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Can't we just put it on, and save the debate for when we need it????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.52.229 (talk) 01:14, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The point about not having the original artist is precisely to avoid unnecessary debate on something completely irrelevant to American Idol. We don't need to argue about whether the Heart's song "Alone" was by originally by i-TEN, it has nothing to do with the show. Hzh (talk) 02:40, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please give source for date of birth

People who give date of birth for contestant please give s source for their information. There are people who like to put false information on wikipedia, for example here which appears to be made up by checking a few known sources. Without sources it can be difficult to determine if any specific piece of information is accurate or not. Although in past season they did give date of birth for Top 10/12/13 finalists, but they don't for those who are not finalists, so don't put down any birthday date without a source for those whose birthday was not mentioned on the show. The information gets pass around the internet because many websites use wikipedia as a source, so please make sure they are correct. There are also no sources for the dates of birth for semifinalists for some past seasons, and I am considering deleting those because it is hard to know if they are made up or not. Hzh (talk) 23:13, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I added their approximate birth years based on their ages and the fact that it's still early in the year and most of them probably haven't had their birthdays in 2014 yet. I included the abbreviation for "circa" to account for the fact that their birthday could fall in January or early February of the following year, such is the case of Emily Piriz. This will have to do until we get confirmation of their full birth dates. Most seasons have a "songs from the year they were born" theme where their birth date is mentioned in the video intro, though some of them will be eliminated before then. MarkMc1990 (talk) 08:21, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I will be deleting birthday dates if they are not sourced. The birthday dates given have already spread to other websites, if they are wrong, then wiki is responsible for spreading false biographical information. The same is true for individual contestant's wiki page. I will also be deleting the semifinalists' birthday date of past years if no sources are forthcoming. Hzh (talk) 13:21, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I support removing birthdates as well. If the show publishes their age, which they often do, don't know about always, then fine but source it with a link so others can verify. The same is true for past seasons. A statement like "In a March 2010 airing of American Idol, Janey Singer's age was reported as 18," with a link to that reporting is attributed and understandable. Sportfan5000 (talk) 17:53, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

General dates have all been sourced, if reliable sources are found giving the exact dates, they would be welcome. Sportfan5000 (talk) 02:53, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

effort underway to delete all finalists' pages

FYI, worth checking out. Sportfan5000 (talk) 00:40, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the past I have defended against deletion, but really, people creating these pages should make an effort to do a proper job. Aside from the issue of notability, pages without proper citations and containing information that is unverifiable is asking for trouble (and I'm really tired of people rehashing unsourced information from fans' forum and stating them as facts on wiki pages). Hzh (talk) 01:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's a problem on all articles but I agree that ideally, they would make a good faith effort to source all content. I have now gone through all the series for the current year and added sources if none existed. Sportfan5000 (talk) 02:35, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Top 13's Numbers

With the season's finalists having just a static number for the whole season, do you think it is a good idea to add it on the finalists' data/results table beside the finalist? Zjzr (talk) 12:29, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think you mean their assigned phone numbers? If so, definitely not. We have the link to the website, which should suffice. I think anyone looking for how to participate will figure it out. Also if we do it for this show, why not every contestant show? It would never end. Sportfan5000 (talk) 12:36, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It is just that unlike other seasons, this season has a static number that doesn't change, and it would make it easier for people to see the numbers without directly going to the website (as it is still encyclopedic data based on their "ID" for the season). Zjzr (talk) 04:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see it happening. If consensus is to add the phone numbers then there you go. @Hzh: has been shepherding this article so may have more insight one way or another. Sportfan5000 (talk) 01:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is generally not a good idea to add something which is of use only temporarily. After the show is over, the telephone number would no longer be relevant, and would just be trivia of no significance. If you add that, people might also want to add links for other ways of voting, as you said, where would it end? We can however mention that the numbers for the contestants are now fixed for the duration of the show, unlike previous seasons. Hzh (talk) 11:01, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think mentioning that they are newly static numbers this year seems like a good idea, as well as the five ways of voting, in some way. Sportfan5000 (talk) 11:07, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]