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Updated Sales Figures no. 2

PS3 sales have reached 5.3 million worldwide. 1.120.137.16 (talk) 08:43, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Its an estimated figure. - X201 (talk) 08:55, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing estimated about it. Those are the sales of the PS4. 1.120.137.16 (talk) 07:32, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Its there in black and white. "Number of retail sales to consumers is estimated by SCEI." - X201 (talk) 08:50, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
But surely there's some margin of error in any sales figures. It's not like any manufacturer has real-time data from every retailer in the world. The only difference here is that SCEI happened to use that word in their statement. It seems like a weird technicality to prevent showing more up-to-date information in the encyclopedia. Chimpanzee Us | Ta | Co 12:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First American PlayStation Console content

In response to this edit which keeps getting re-added.

  1. Is it true?
  2. Does it need to be mentioned?
  3. Does it need to be mentioned like that, in the lead?

If true, it could be something worth mentioning, but I don't think it needs to be put as the second sentence in the article. It keeps being placed as an awkward, random sentence, that breaks flow, and kind of sounds like trivia when presented like that.

Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 17:28, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think the fact is important enough to be put in a place were the average reader will see it as soon as they start looking through the article. PlayStation has been a console by a japanese company with a lot of japanese support at launch. It also usually launches in Sonys home territory first.
However, look at the changes, the console was released in Japan after NA, where it was released first. An American man designed the console, and the console launches in all territories so far have mostly American owned game franchises. It's a real game changer. John Mayor ERS (talk) 17:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Like I said, if its true, that's fine, but the sentence should be in place that makes sense, and explain why' its such a gamechanger". (I'm not sure the article body even really covers that at the moment.) It doesn't need to be a random sentence that breaks flow and sounds like little more than unexplained, vague trivia. Sergecross73 msg me 18:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's not true. Mark Cerny was lead designer, working in-house with Sony technicians in Japan and the US. — TPX 18:22, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Sergecross73. In any introduction, readers want the most important aspects mentioned only. Even if true, I'm not so sure this would be one of them. Certainly, it wouldn't be important enough to be the 2nd sentence. --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:56, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if it is true, but I have heard it before although I agree that even if true, it shouldn't be in the intro. MrAdaptive343 (talk) 19:43, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok so we should put in within the body. John Mayor ERS (talk) 23:03, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see anyone saying that. There doesn't seem to be any support for this. You still haven't actually explained why this is noteworthy either, other than being an exception. How did this affect its design? Why is this worth noting that it was lead by an American? You still haven't explained why this is a "game changer". Also, stop re-adding it into the article until there's consensus on how to handle it. Its pretty clear discussion is still on going. Sergecross73 msg me 00:45, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Also, just because Cerny designed the console, it does not mean the consoles was "Made in America", which is how you are trying to represent it. MrAdaptive343 (talk) 02:38, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Playstation 4 Reserved memory

The Xbox One entry calls out the amount of ram reserved for the Xbox OS and the amount usable by game developers (5GB available to developers). In the interest of accurate comparisons I recommend the memory distribution mentioned in the Playstation 4 entry be updated to reflect the same information. This would read "8GB (4.5GB minimum reserved for developers, 5GB potentially available to developers)[1]"

Majinpunisher (talk) 00:06, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The amount of RAM has not been officially confirmed by Sony to my knowledge. The article provided is old (July 2013) and speculates on an unconfirmed report by Digital Foundry. Best to wait until an official figure is released. Trut-h-urts man (T • C) 00:32, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

The introduction states that the PS4 is the world's most powerful games console. I'm not here to dispute that, but I think it should read "dedicated games console". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.178.37.45 (talk) 08:35, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To distinguish it from what? Sergecross73 msg me 11:03, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Why should it read "dedicated"? If I have a new car that boasts being the world's "fastest production vehicle", I wouldn't say world's "fasted production vehicle dedicated to racing". Whether or not it is dedicated to racing is irrelevant, it is still the world's fast production vehicle which includes racing and others. It is still the world's fastest production vehicle. Why point out that which is already included? MrAdaptive343 (talk) 15:07, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Or, to put it another way, is there a non-dedicated games console which is more powerful? If not, there's no need for the additional qualifier. I think I know what you're getting at - that there are gaming PCs more powerful than the PS4 - but these aren't consoles so there's nothing to clarify. If it said "the PS4 is the world's most powerful video games device" (or something) then it would need clarification. Chimpanzee Us | Ta | Co 13:51, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That is my point exactly. Well said. MrAdaptive343 (talk) 14:44, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that was going to be my follow-up statement if this went any further. Sergecross73 msg me 14:47, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete article

Nothing here about the connectors, whether it works on an older 720 screen, HDMI...very basic info missing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.122.14 (talk) 00:07, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

4K

Should 4K really be listed under video output formats ? it seems kind of odd considering the console doesn't support it at all right now and may never support it especially 4K gaming. 74.103.250.78 (talk) 02:10, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So should a 4K TV be called a 4K TV even though no movies were being released in 4K when it came out? Yes, because regardless, it still has the capability. Both the Xbox One and this article include this because both consoles are capable of the output regardless of whether a game is out in that format. The 4K capability is not a dependent. Rilech (talk) 04:13, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A 4K TV is obviously already capable of playing 4K content and considering the XBONE struggles with full hd i doubt it will ever support 4K the thing is neither console is capable right now so it just seems like false information or vaporware to me thats all im saying. 74.103.250.78 (talk) 05:56, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My point was it just makes it look like it currently supports it which it doesn't so maybe it should be changed to 4K (maybe) or 4K (one of these days) to be a little more accurate. 74.103.250.78 (talk) 06:18, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
But you see, that is where you are wrong. The PlayStation 4 does support 4K. You can check the reference. Regardless of whether any material is out that is in 4K is irrelevant to whether or not the system can support it. Just because my car's gas tank is empty doesn't mean it doesn't support gasoline. Rilech (talk) 07:01, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I see what youre saying my point was it doesnt have support/content for it right now and in the way it's listed like that under video output format in my opinion makes it look like it supports it right now like its currently an option which it isn't because games and movies etc can only go to 1080p so even if it has the power to output 4K its not going to do it right now. 74.103.250.78 (talk) 07:22, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/26/35gb-of-playstation-4-ram-reportedly-reserved-for-os
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