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I don't see disruptive conduct. Did you block this guy for having a dissenting opinion? I'd like to request a block review on WP:AN. I find this highly inappropriate, and contrary to open discussion and the way we develop a WP:CONSENSUS. A consensus formed by blocking editors who oppose is not a consensus at all. The worst you've got is that he's been a bit snarky. That's not blockable.--v/r - TP 05:39, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

I've spent some more time looking into this. The 'consensus' on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ireland#Civil_parishes_vs_villages is not as explicit as I'd have expected for this block. Besides Mr. Blofelf and The Banner, the other editors seem to find a mixture of the two opinions to be optimal. In fact, the argument that received the most support is that articles about Parishes and Villages should be combined or not based on geography. However, even setting that aside and assuming Dr. Blofeld gained consensus, this edit that you blocked The Banner for is actually enforcing that consensus against The Banner's own opinion. He included information about the parish in the article about the village. That was the so-called consensus by Dr. Blofeld. And yet, Dr. Blofeld reverted him blindly anyway. If anyone earned a block, it was Dr. Blofeld. Am I reading something wrong here?--v/r - TP 06:27, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

You're probably having a busy Sunday morning and haven't had the chance to respond yet, but I don't believe that to be fair to The Banner that he remain blocked when I believe it to be unjustified. So I've addressed the matter at WP:AN, the link is below. Thanks.--v/r - TP 22:01, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

(ec, I was typing this as you were running to AN) I certainly did not block him for having a dissenting opinion, and I'd thank you not to suggest that I aim to be anything other than even-handed in my admin actions. As I see it, there's an interpersonal dispute between Blofeld and Banner; the consensus at the wikiproject talk page favours an approach somewhere between the two extremes. Blofeld seems to have accepted this t some extent, but Banner seems to have continued edit-warring. If he was edit-warring against Blofeld, I'd have given them both a bollocking and perhaps protected the article, but when he's edit-warring against several editors, and several more are telling him on a talk page that he's wrong (and he's continuing to edit-war, rather than calling a moratorium on reverting while the discussion progresses), I tend to think it's a conduct issue and not a content one. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:15, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

I find it highly ironic that somebody who on his talk page professes " And I absolutely hate arrogance to the level that no respect is shown for an opponent's ideas because of a self-righteous belief in being the only correct point of view" thinks I'm the one who should be blocked here. It's precisely that which is causing all of the problems. Banner simply cannot accept consensus. I'm happy to discuss the issue and try to move forward constructively, it's Banner who won't.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:12, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

The thought of blocking both of you crossed my mind, but you gave ground, whereas he wouldn't give an inch. I hope the two of you can resolve the issues through discussion, I really do, but I stand by my decision to block them (and equally my decision not to block you but to ask you stop reverting). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:58, 1 April 2014 (UTC)